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January 24, 2009

Does Having Prayer In Concert With Pagans Help?

by @ 12:32 am. Filed under Nuts on Parade

I can’t read 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 and think it helps. In fact, it appears trying to have pagans say prayers and Christians say prayers together as some common bond is one of the worst ideas imaginable. How many times throughout scripture does God frown on intentional union on a spiritual level with pagans? Here’s just one example.

Judges 2:11-23 (New American Standard Bible)

11 Then the sons of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD and served the Baals, 12 and they forsook the LORD, the God of their fathers, who had brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods from among the gods of the peoples who were around them, and bowed themselves down to them; thus they provoked the LORD to anger. 13 So they forsook the LORD and served Baal and the Ashtaroth. 14 The anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and He gave them into the hands of plunderers who plundered them; and He sold them into the hands of their enemies around them, so that they could no longer stand before their enemies. 15 Wherever they went, the hand of the LORD was against them for evil, as the LORD had spoken and as the LORD had sworn to them, so that they were severely distressed.
16 Then the LORD raised up judges who delivered them from the hands of those who plundered them. 17 Yet they did not listen to their judges, for they played the harlot after other gods and bowed themselves down to them. They turned aside quickly from the way in which their fathers had walked in obeying the commandments of the LORD; they did not do as their fathers. 18 When the LORD raised up judges for them, the LORD was with the judge and delivered them from the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge; for the LORD was moved to pity by their groaning because of those who oppressed and afflicted them. 19 But it came about when the judge died, that they would turn back and act more corruptly than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them and bow down to them; they did not abandon their practices or their stubborn ways. 20 So the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and He said, “Because this nation has transgressed My covenant which I commanded their fathers and has not listened to My voice, 21 I also will no longer drive out before them any of the nations which Joshua left when he died, 22 in order to test Israel by them, whether they will keep the way of the LORD to walk in it as their fathers did, or not.” 23 So the LORD allowed those nations to remain, not driving them out quickly; and He did not give them into the hand of Joshua.

Christians are not to bow and take part in prayers to false gods.

1 Corinthians 10:19-23 (New American Standard Bible)

19 What do I mean then? That a thing sacrificed to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20 No, but I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers in demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. 22 Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? We are not stronger than He, are we?
23 All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify.

So I’m just feeling great sorrow when reading things such as is noted in the following.

Policy and Prayer Mark Obama’s First Day in Office (emphasis added)


But before he tackled matters of commerce and state, President Obama took time to seek divine guidance.

His first public appearance of the day was at the last official inaugural event – a prayer service at the National Cathedral.

The president sat in the front pew as Reverend Andy Stanley led the congregation in a prayer.

“Grant to Barack Obama, President of the United States, and to all in authority, your grace and goodwill,” he said. “Bless them with your heavenly gifts, give them wisdom and strength to know and to do your will.”

Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Hindu clergy took part in the service – an inaugural tradition dating back to George Washington.

Seeing people who claim to be Christians having themselves used for grandstanding prayers is bad enough, but seeing the joining with pagans in it all is so profoundly sad. I mean this all had to come to pass, because we were told many would fall away, but it’s really so sad :sad: .

The program from the event is here.

And I want to point out the names of some people I noticed who offered prayers at the event. These are just some names I noticed and wanted to point out, not a list of everyone. I’m sure if some of you read the program yourselves you’ll likely find other names that stand out to you personally.

Saints, don’t join yourselves with pagans and feel somehow God will hear your prayers. It only provokes the Lord’s jealous anger. Those seeking peace and love from God are provoking His wrath!

I’m left with nothing to say but come quickly Lord Jesus!

January 23, 2009

Did Rick Warren’s Invocation At The US Presidential Inauguration Assert The False Pagan Muslim god Is Comparable With The One True God?

by @ 10:53 pm. Filed under Nuts on Parade

Keep in mind, the false pagan Muslim god has no Son that is One with him. Muslims see Jesus as the “son of Mary” and nothing more than a prophet below the stature of the false prophet Muhammad. So the false Muslim god is never to be compared with the One True God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Because the Muslim god is a false god.

If Rick Warren did not spend so much time hanging out with Muslims, I would not think much of this. But given he hangs with Muslims, his words had to be intentional.

(Hat tip to KyleAndrews.)

Warren’s ‘inclusive’ prayer ignites reactions

Pastor Rick Warren’s invocation at President Obama’s inauguration today has ignited a flurry of critiques for using words from the Jewish, Christian and Muslim holy texts as well as including the name of Jesus – in several languages.

Leading up to the prayer, bloggers and commentators debated whether Warren – an evangelical pastor blasted by the homosexual community for his opposition to same-sex marriage – would draft a prayer that was inclusive of the many Americans of differing religions, moralities and politics or whether it would be solely reflective of evangelical Christian theology.

Following the prayer, some criticized him for being too inclusive.

Islam expert Robert Spencer at JihadWatch.org, an organization dedicated to bringing public attention to jihad theology and defending Western society, criticized Warren for including a common refrain from Islam’s Quran – “You are the compassionate and merciful one.”.

“‘The compassionate, the merciful’ is, of course, a reference to the invocation at the beginning of every chapter of the Qur’an except one: Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim, ‘In the name of Allah, the compassionate, the merciful,’” Spencer writes.

This is what happens once you start making it a priority to please everybody, instead of sticking to the message of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. And of course if Rick stuck to just the gospel he would not be very popular and you’d never have seen him giving an address at a Presidential inauguration. If Muslims are inviting you to their meetings and all you can say to them at the meeting is that you want to join with them and forget differences, the slippage is going to show. Be leery of men who construct prayers that will tickle even a pagan’s ears.

January 15, 2009

Rick Warren, A Not So New Type Of Heretic.

by @ 12:44 am. Filed under Nuts on Parade

Not so new, because his type have been around for ages. OK, I’ll start this post with that scripture I’ve repeatedly cited and will cite again because it seems the heretics and false teachers are being exposed well by it lately.

2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (New American Standard Bible)

14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?

15 Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?

16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said,
“I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM;
AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.
17 “Therefore, COME OUT FROM THEIR MIDST AND BE SEPARATE,” says the Lord.
“AND DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN;
And I will welcome you.
18 “And I will be a father to you,
And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,”
Says the Lord Almighty.

And with that in mind, we can see when reading the articles below why Rick Warren is a man to avoid. Because he’s happily bound to all manner of evil.

Barack Obama selects gay Episcopal bishop to pray at inaugural kickoff event


In a statement late Monday, Warren complimented Obama’s decision to invite Robinson. “President-elect Obama has again demonstrated his genuine commitment to bringing all Americans of goodwill together in search of common ground,” Warren said. “I applaud his desire to be the president of every citizen.”

(Hat tip to Robert for alerting me to that one.)

The President elect is having an apostate who promotes a doctrine of abomination and Rick Warren is like cool count me in.

Pastor Rick Warren addresses Muslim group, emphasizes need to find common ground

…Orange County Pastor Rick Warren spoke Saturday night to about 800 members of the Muslim Public Affairs Council at its convention in Long Beach.

Warren’s theme was about people getting along, forgetting their differences and focusing on areas of agreement. The audience cheered him, and many people rose to their feet.

Among the first to stand was singer Melissa Etheridge, a lesbian, who performed for the audience.

A council spokeswoman acknowledged that some members objected to the choice of the evangelical pastor as the keynote speaker.

“We’re always looking to work with unlikely partners, and I think he’s a new kind of evangelical,” said spokeswoman Edina Lekovic. “We have a lot in common.”

Warren, like many Muslims, opposes abortion and same-sex marriage. Lekovic said he was introduced to the council by Orange County Muslim leaders who held an interfaith picnic with his congregation.

Warren also served as part of a “prayer circle” of supportive clergy leaders during Obama’s presidential campaign.

(Hat tip Kyle.)

Notice that claim of a “new kind of evangelical”. Well he’s really just the mold of old heretics. He’s even playing the keynote speaker role at an event with pagans and homosexuals. And just like his antichristness Benedict XVI, Warren wants to have “common ground” with pagans. Do you think the apostle Paul would have addressed a room filled with pagan deniers of Jesus as the Christ and talked about “forgetting their differences and focusing on areas of agreement”? Well, Paul did address pagans and here’s what he said.

Acts 17:22-34 (New American Standard Bible)

22 So Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said, “Men of Athens, I observe that you are very religious in all respects. 23 “For while I was passing through and examining the objects of your worship, I also found an altar with this inscription, ‘TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.’ Therefore what you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you. 24 “The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ 29 “Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. 30 “Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”
32 Now when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some began to sneer, but others said, “We shall hear you again concerning this.” 33 So Paul went out of their midst. 34 But some men joined him and believed, among whom also were Dionysius the Areopagite and a woman named Damaris and others with them.

Paul did not try to please the crowd. He didn’t tell them things to have them all stand on their feet and cheer. A true man of God, Paul told those who did not know the truth, that they need to repent because Jesus Christ has been raised from the dead and will return to judge! Some of the audience sneered, any LA Times reporter probably would have deemed Paul insensitive and a zealot. But those who God called joined Paul and believed.

What Rick Warren is doing is the opposite of how to deal with those who don’t believe in Jesus. What Rick Warren promotes is another gospel. One God had Paul to warn us about.

Galatians 1:6-10 (New American Standard Bible)

6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; 7 which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!
10 For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.

Warren has people of Saddleback “church” engaging in things such as an “interfaith picnic” with pagans. And Warren visits pagans to claim it’s time to “forget differences”. Never mind they deny Christ, Warren just wants to work with them in order to score some political points. Warren’s eyes are caught up on the cares of this world and it is most dangerous to follow him.

January 5, 2009

A Look At What Rick Warren Is Teaching.

by @ 4:49 pm. Filed under Nuts on Parade

A good video from our brother on YouTube Bezel333.


Rick Warren: the “Uber Pastor” with friends in high places

Honestly, what Rick was pushing in that so-called sermon sounded just like what I’ve heard from many prosperity heretics. Much in James 4 is either being mishandled or ignored by Rick and others such as him.

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December 31, 2008

Eddie Lee Long Of New Birth Missionary Baptist (So-Called) Church Is Insane!

by @ 9:42 pm. Filed under Nuts on Parade

I mean that’s about all I can say after reading the post over at I’m Speaking Truth titled: A Pimp And A President.

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