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	<title>Comments on: Eddie Long&#8217;s Club Makes Obama A Reason For Worship.  Even Partners With A Secular Radio Station To Promote It.</title>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/12/08/eddie-longs-club-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-11718</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This partnering of Long&#039;s with the secular media/entertainment reminds me of Amaziah, king of Judah in 2 chronicles 25, who hired soldiers from the 10 northern tribes with 100 talents of silver. Here is what God said about this unequal yoking, &lt;i&gt;&quot; But a man of God came to him, saying, &quot;O king, do not let the army of Israel go with you, for &lt;b&gt;the LORD is not with Israel&lt;/b&gt;â€”not with any of the children of Ephraim. 8 But if you go, be gone! Be strong in battle! Even so, &lt;b&gt;God shall make you fall before the enemy;&lt;/b&gt; for God has power to help and to overthrow.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

God does not want Christians partnering with unbelievers in spiritual pursuits for essentially the same reason: The Lord is not with the unbeliever. We will fall for their sake. 

I don&#039;t consider Eddie Long a brother in the Lord, though, so, in his case, partnering with the world is actually a very equal yoking after all. It is just that we should take warning as believers to avoid the ways of these Pretenders-in-the-Pulpit who are masquerading as ministers of righteousness and misleading their people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This partnering of Long&#8217;s with the secular media/entertainment reminds me of Amaziah, king of Judah in 2 chronicles 25, who hired soldiers from the 10 northern tribes with 100 talents of silver. Here is what God said about this unequal yoking, <i>&#8221; But a man of God came to him, saying, &#8220;O king, do not let the army of Israel go with you, for <b>the LORD is not with Israel</b>â€”not with any of the children of Ephraim. 8 But if you go, be gone! Be strong in battle! Even so, <b>God shall make you fall before the enemy;</b> for God has power to help and to overthrow.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>God does not want Christians partnering with unbelievers in spiritual pursuits for essentially the same reason: The Lord is not with the unbeliever. We will fall for their sake. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t consider Eddie Long a brother in the Lord, though, so, in his case, partnering with the world is actually a very equal yoking after all. It is just that we should take warning as believers to avoid the ways of these Pretenders-in-the-Pulpit who are masquerading as ministers of righteousness and misleading their people.</p>
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		<title>By: psalm100</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/12/08/eddie-longs-club-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-11714</link>
		<dc:creator>psalm100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The great apostasy is already here and increasing. Bishop Eddie Long is very difficult to understand. He barely uses the Bible when preaching. It&#039;s more or less talking about himself and his life experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great apostasy is already here and increasing. Bishop Eddie Long is very difficult to understand. He barely uses the Bible when preaching. It&#8217;s more or less talking about himself and his life experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Airbrush Artist</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/12/08/eddie-longs-club-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-11711</link>
		<dc:creator>Airbrush Artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Worst results of Apostates like Eddie Long Is the people that Sit under His False Teaching is that They will unknowingly Spread The False Word to unbelievers which will not bring them too the True Gospel of Christ,God is  Sovereign, We must Burn that into Our Hearts and Minds When We are subjected to The Eddie Longs of this World..To Believe in The Words of Eddie Long is the height Of Lack Of Discernment,God intends Us to Understand and Use Our God given Intelligence and Senses to Puzzle Out His Grace for Our own Lives not By Listen to a Shill Who seeks Personal and Financial Gain by Misrepresenting Our Wonderful Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Worst results of Apostates like Eddie Long Is the people that Sit under His False Teaching is that They will unknowingly Spread The False Word to unbelievers which will not bring them too the True Gospel of Christ,God is  Sovereign, We must Burn that into Our Hearts and Minds When We are subjected to The Eddie Longs of this World..To Believe in The Words of Eddie Long is the height Of Lack Of Discernment,God intends Us to Understand and Use Our God given Intelligence and Senses to Puzzle Out His Grace for Our own Lives not By Listen to a Shill Who seeks Personal and Financial Gain by Misrepresenting Our Wonderful Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/12/08/eddie-longs-club-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-11710</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Wow..I need to learn about this guyâ€¦are you saying he shared the stage with Farrakhan??? Ouchâ€¦.
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Yes, and he used to warn people to have nothing to do with Farrakhan!  &lt;em&gt;(Seriously, it was Eddie Long who started helping me see why nobody should ever have anything ever to &lt;b&gt;ever ever&lt;/b&gt; do with Farrakhan.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/10/02/farrakhan1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Which is why I expressed disappointment in this post.&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/em&gt;  It&#039;s such a turn, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution once did an article about how Southern Black preachers have changed their tune regarding Farrakhan over time.  &lt;em&gt;(Apparently, about 10 years ago many of the Atlanta preachers were anti-Farrakhan, but many of them embrace that jackal now.)&lt;/em&gt; They didn&#039;t include Eddie Long in that article, but he&#039;s proven he&#039;s right along with the rest of the lot, that does whatever looks good for the given moment.

No matter the race, the flesh is weak.  Lord willing, some who fall for the strong delusion will find their first love.</description>
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Wow..I need to learn about this guyâ€¦are you saying he shared the stage with Farrakhan??? Ouchâ€¦.
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<p>Yes, and he used to warn people to have nothing to do with Farrakhan!  <em>(Seriously, it was Eddie Long who started helping me see why nobody should ever have anything ever to <b>ever ever</b> do with Farrakhan.  <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/10/02/farrakhan1/" rel="nofollow">Which is why I expressed disappointment in this post.</a>)</em>  It&#8217;s such a turn, the Atlanta-Journal Constitution once did an article about how Southern Black preachers have changed their tune regarding Farrakhan over time.  <em>(Apparently, about 10 years ago many of the Atlanta preachers were anti-Farrakhan, but many of them embrace that jackal now.)</em> They didn&#8217;t include Eddie Long in that article, but he&#8217;s proven he&#8217;s right along with the rest of the lot, that does whatever looks good for the given moment.</p>
<p>No matter the race, the flesh is weak.  Lord willing, some who fall for the strong delusion will find their first love.</p>
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		<title>By: Albertadude</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/12/08/eddie-longs-club-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-11709</link>
		<dc:creator>Albertadude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow..I need to learn about this guy...are you saying he shared the stage with Farrakhan??? Ouch....

I knew up here in Canada, that in the White church per se, the trouble we saw quite often was liberalism and word faith silliness...but I always thought that down in he States that the Black Church was so strong...but ole satan seems to have his own way of attacking your churches...

I must say I am appalled at some of those Churches I thought were totally born again, are running to slobber all over Obama&#039;s shoes???? I understand being proud and that is cool with Obama being America&#039;s truly first black president (with apologies to Bill Clinton) but our First Love must be Christ...

I have to say, I was so hurt listening to Shirley Ceaser the following Sunday of the election talking about Obama...it sounded like idolatry...from a Woman that I always admired in the Lord and enjoyed her music...

Pray for our leaders...do not blindly worship them...

Blessings...

Devon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow..I need to learn about this guy&#8230;are you saying he shared the stage with Farrakhan??? Ouch&#8230;.</p>
<p>I knew up here in Canada, that in the White church per se, the trouble we saw quite often was liberalism and word faith silliness&#8230;but I always thought that down in he States that the Black Church was so strong&#8230;but ole satan seems to have his own way of attacking your churches&#8230;</p>
<p>I must say I am appalled at some of those Churches I thought were totally born again, are running to slobber all over Obama&#8217;s shoes???? I understand being proud and that is cool with Obama being America&#8217;s truly first black president (with apologies to Bill Clinton) but our First Love must be Christ&#8230;</p>
<p>I have to say, I was so hurt listening to Shirley Ceaser the following Sunday of the election talking about Obama&#8230;it sounded like idolatry&#8230;from a Woman that I always admired in the Lord and enjoyed her music&#8230;</p>
<p>Pray for our leaders&#8230;do not blindly worship them&#8230;</p>
<p>Blessings&#8230;</p>
<p>Devon</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/12/08/eddie-longs-club-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-11708</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well he&#039;s reflecting the look of his &quot;body guards&quot;, there was one in particular that he mentioned he wanted to get his physique like.

And once he started the meetings with the men he started showing himself off.

I guess he&#039;s setting an example for men at CNB to look like gay clubbers on steroids.  Did he feel this was an appropriate means to address the issue of the many effeminate men at CNB?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well he&#8217;s reflecting the look of his &#8220;body guards&#8221;, there was one in particular that he mentioned he wanted to get his physique like.</p>
<p>And once he started the meetings with the men he started showing himself off.</p>
<p>I guess he&#8217;s setting an example for men at CNB to look like gay clubbers on steroids.  Did he feel this was an appropriate means to address the issue of the many effeminate men at CNB?</p>
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		<title>By: DL Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/12/08/eddie-longs-club-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-11707</link>
		<dc:creator>DL Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So E. Long is saying the average man at CNB looks like a gay clubber on steriods? Thats connecting?
Why not connect by being a true spiritual leader i.e. one who leads other men by example into true submission to the Lord Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So E. Long is saying the average man at CNB looks like a gay clubber on steriods? Thats connecting?<br />
Why not connect by being a true spiritual leader i.e. one who leads other men by example into true submission to the Lord Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/12/08/eddie-longs-club-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-11706</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, once Eddie Long started yucking it up on stage with Farra-the-Con I knew my leaving was exactly what God desired.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/10/02/farrakhan1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In this post I mention that and have a copy of the actual document available that Eddie gave to us.&lt;/a&gt;  Even the Eddie Long of 11-10 years ago would preach against having anything to do with the Eddie Long of today.  Our leaving him only makes us consistent with what he used to once teach himself.

Regarding when he started with the &quot;body guards&quot;, I also recall he was complaining some woman&#039;s husband was supposedly after him.  For that woman going home and speaking against her husband&#039;s actions based off stuff Eddie Long used to preach against.  That&#039;s when he started saying &lt;em&gt;&quot;don&#039;t say I said it, say it&#039;s what the Bible says&quot;&lt;/em&gt; or something like that.  He was getting the body guards, so something or a combination of things had him rather concerned.  Paul never &quot;hired&quot; bodyguards, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=51&amp;chapter=18&amp;version=49&amp;context=chapter&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the saints would stand up for Paul if the Lord willed he receive protection and Paul left it at that.&lt;/a&gt;

When I think of Eddie Long&#039;s 180 turn with Farra-the-Con, I also recall how he used to be so against the policies of Cynthia McKinney and then later he gave her a soft endorsement &lt;em&gt;(not directly, but inferred it rather obviously)&lt;/em&gt;.  And we know he was likely doing that for political deals in his favor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, once Eddie Long started yucking it up on stage with Farra-the-Con I knew my leaving was exactly what God desired.  <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2005/10/02/farrakhan1/" rel="nofollow">In this post I mention that and have a copy of the actual document available that Eddie gave to us.</a>  Even the Eddie Long of 11-10 years ago would preach against having anything to do with the Eddie Long of today.  Our leaving him only makes us consistent with what he used to once teach himself.</p>
<p>Regarding when he started with the &#8220;body guards&#8221;, I also recall he was complaining some woman&#8217;s husband was supposedly after him.  For that woman going home and speaking against her husband&#8217;s actions based off stuff Eddie Long used to preach against.  That&#8217;s when he started saying <em>&#8220;don&#8217;t say I said it, say it&#8217;s what the Bible says&#8221;</em> or something like that.  He was getting the body guards, so something or a combination of things had him rather concerned.  Paul never &#8220;hired&#8221; bodyguards, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=51&#038;chapter=18&#038;version=49&#038;context=chapter" rel="nofollow">the saints would stand up for Paul if the Lord willed he receive protection and Paul left it at that.</a></p>
<p>When I think of Eddie Long&#8217;s 180 turn with Farra-the-Con, I also recall how he used to be so against the policies of Cynthia McKinney and then later he gave her a soft endorsement <em>(not directly, but inferred it rather obviously)</em>.  And we know he was likely doing that for political deals in his favor.</p>
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		<title>By: speakingtruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>speakingtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; I think it might have been right around the time Eddie Long got more into having â€œbody guardsâ€ (one or more, I forget the number) that he started wanting to LOOK LIKE THE BODY GUARD(S). He said that he wanted to â€œconnectâ€ more with the men...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you recall &lt;b&gt;IC&lt;/b&gt;, Eddie didn&#039;t really start gathering &quot;bodyguards&quot; until he called out &quot;Calypso Lou&quot; about the million man march and it&#039;s &quot;worship of man&quot; &lt;i&gt;(ironic, since now he is perpetuating man worship of him and Obama)&lt;/i&gt;. Also, all (and I do mean ALL) of his boyguards are (or at least they were when I was in the club) minsters-in-training or various &quot;sons&quot;. It was seen as a &quot;training program&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i> I think it might have been right around the time Eddie Long got more into having â€œbody guardsâ€ (one or more, I forget the number) that he started wanting to LOOK LIKE THE BODY GUARD(S). He said that he wanted to â€œconnectâ€ more with the men&#8230;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>If you recall <b>IC</b>, Eddie didn&#8217;t really start gathering &#8220;bodyguards&#8221; until he called out &#8220;Calypso Lou&#8221; about the million man march and it&#8217;s &#8220;worship of man&#8221; <i>(ironic, since now he is perpetuating man worship of him and Obama)</i>. Also, all (and I do mean ALL) of his boyguards are (or at least they were when I was in the club) minsters-in-training or various &#8220;sons&#8221;. It was seen as a &#8220;training program&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it might have been right around the time Eddie Long got more into having &quot;body guards&quot; (one or more, I forget the number) that he started wanting to LOOK LIKE THE BODY GUARD(S).  He said that he wanted to &quot;connect&quot; more with the men and next thing you know he started wearing the muscle shirts at &quot;mens meetings&quot;, to I guess look &quot;manly&quot; and next thing you know it was a regular part of his wardrobe, wearing them anytime anywhere.  He suddenly wanted to keep looking more like a muscle man and showing it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it might have been right around the time Eddie Long got more into having &#8220;body guards&#8221; (one or more, I forget the number) that he started wanting to LOOK LIKE THE BODY GUARD(S).  He said that he wanted to &#8220;connect&#8221; more with the men and next thing you know he started wearing the muscle shirts at &#8220;mens meetings&#8221;, to I guess look &#8220;manly&#8221; and next thing you know it was a regular part of his wardrobe, wearing them anytime anywhere.  He suddenly wanted to keep looking more like a muscle man and showing it off.</p>
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