I don’t get any sort of pleasure out of making these kinds of posts, but I can’t think of a better way, to warn saints about someone that some of them have been duped into thinking is a “committed Christian”, than to show his actions. So it can be seen plainly, that Obama is simply another politician, no more special, no more greater, than any other who gamed Christians for votes.
And on to the latest example.
Obama skips church, heads to gym
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Christians are supposed to focus on spiritual growth in Jesus Christ, not bodily exercise.
1 Timothy 4:8 (New American Standard Bible)
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I’m not saying a workout is bad, but when it’s your choice over a church meeting on the Lord’s Day (Sunday), there’s a big problem.
The article continues:
Asked about the president-elect’s decision to not attend church, a transition aide noted that the Obamas valued their faith experience in Chicago but were concerned about the impact their large retinue may have on other parishioners.
“Because they have a great deal of respect for places of worship, they do not want to draw unwelcome or inappropriate attention to a church not used to the attention their attendance would draw,” said the aide.
Both President-elect George W. Bush and President-elect Bill Clinton managed to attend church in the weeks after they were elected.
In comes the excuses of potentially causing a stir. But that was not a problem for prior Presidents. Regardless of our feelings regarding their standing with Christ, they did make the effort and it was after they got the votes.
In November of 1992, Clinton went to services in Little Rock, Ark., on the three weekends following his election, taking pre-church jogs on the first two and attending on the third weekend a Catholic Mass with the Rev. Jesse Jackson, with whom he was trying to smooth over lingering campaign tensions.
The Presidents usually claim to be real Bible believing Christians, yet they too often are found in the assembly of the cult of Mary at the Roman Catholic Mass.
In the weeks after the contested 2000 election, Bush regularly attended services at Tarrytown United Methodist Church in Austin, Texas, and Al Gore was frequently photographed arriving at and leaving church in Virginia.
On his first day as president-elect, following weeks of Florida recounts and court hearings, Bush went to church with his wife, Laura. They attended an invite-only prayer service on Thursday, Dec. 14, at Tarrytown United Methodist Church. About 300 people attended, including top campaign staff and visiting clergy. During the service, the Rev. Mark Craig, senior pastor at Highland Park United Methodist Church in Dallas, told Bush, “You have been chosen by God to lead the people.”
Invite only prayer service for political figures? That does not square with James 2. In ancient Rome, Senators were elected by Roman citizens and the church abstained from political participation. Now there are church groups that give the publicans special invitation and deny the meeting to others. Romans 13 affirms those who have political rule are allowed their post by God. For them to be an example for God’s wrath or glory. But having church assembly meetings that exclude all but the high profile is a bad example. If a pastor desires to pray for a President and security is a concern, he can always visit the White House and say a prayer.
Obama was an infrequent churchgoer on the campaign trail, though he did make a series of appearances in the pews and pulpits of South Carolina churches ahead of that heavily religious state’s primary.
Obama found his way to church meetings when it was politically expedient.
The issue of where he worships is, of course, fraught. For about two decades, Obama and his family attended Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ. But, with the public disclosure earlier this year of incendiary sermons at Trinity by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama and his wife, Michelle, in June resigned their membership in the large South Side congregation.
While denouncing Jeremiah Wright, Obama has never denounced the heresy of Black Liberation Theology and even calls it “the social gospel”.
At the time, the then-Illinois senator said that he didn’t want his “church experience to be a political circus” and expressed regret for the unwanted attention members of the congregation had received, noting that some reporters had taken church bulletins only to call sick members and shut-ins.
Obviously, the media going after the sick and shut-ins was despicable. But there would not have been any circus if Jesus was preached at Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ in truth.
During the campaign, Obama returned to Chicago to attend the South Side’s Apostolic Church of God on Father’s Day Sunday to give a speech aimed at the black community on the importance of fatherhood and family.
Hung out at a Oneness spot for another politically expedient venture.
A number of Washington, D.C., churches of different denominations and traditions are now competing to become the spiritual home of the new first family.
The Obama aide said the family “look[s] forward to finding a church community in Washington, D.C.”
Well one has to wonder, if there are any Hindu temples making a bid too?
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November 24th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
“A number of Washington, D.C., churches of different denominations and traditions are now competing to become the spiritual home of the new first family.” This statement only compounds the issue of Obama-worship ESPECIALLY in DC. Apparently, it was not enough for organized groups to craft and create tribute songs & dances for, have weekly club parties to “celebrate,” and name a school after Obama http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/11/21/you-decide-school-obama/ NOW we have churches jockeying for the Obamas to be THEIR members?!! Your reference to James 2 is spot on. At the very time the church needs to be an attraction device for the masses to come to Christ, we have church “pastors” that are looking to have a celebrity family in their pews for the sake of a history-book entry and bragging rights.
If these church “leaders” are truly looking to have Obama and his family within his sphere of influence, it would be best to counsel with the family PRIVATELY to actually TEACH THE GOSPEL. These “pastors” can do the noble thing by teaching the Obama family how to acquire salvation and learning the tenets of Christ which would include rejecting the numerous false idols and anti-christ ideologies, attitudes and justifications for sin.
The information put forward here and elsewhere concerning Obama’s “beliefs” shows that he has no clear understanding as to what truth is, thus making him very vulernable to all manner of influences. If the “pastors” competing for Obama’s affections had any discernment, they will do as I have previously outlined.
IndependentConservative reply on November 24th, 2008 at 2:51 pm :
I agree 100%.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:58 am
It seems as if BO only attended church when it was politically convenient. It is amazing to read the many stories of first time voters. They only voted because a black man was running for office.
Now I guess he doesn’t need church or the Lord.
IndependentConservative reply on November 25th, 2008 at 11:02 am :
When Obama was working as a “community organizer” in Chicago. He started trying to convince pastors to join in an effort he was doing. The pastors were refusing him. But Obama wanted the pastors on board, because their influence would bring big numbers to the effort. Then Obama met Wright, who informed Obama he was not going to get much support when he was not a member of an area church group. Wright being pastor of one of the largest in the area. Obama started taking training from Wright, started attending meetings at Wright’s spot, joined, claimed he was “born again”, became a politician and the rest is history.
I’ll also add, John McCain suddenly felt the need to become a Baptist at what was a politically opportune time to do so.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Not surprising, really. He seems to toss his faith when it will benefit him the most.
In a 2004 interview he said “Alongside my own deep personal faith, I am a follower, as well, of our civic religion. I am a big believer in the separation of church and state.”
“…I’m very suspicious of religious certainty expressing itself in politics.”
Source: http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/11/obamas-interview-with-cathleen.html
November 25th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
It’s very interesting how the Cult of Obama will spin this. Of course, so argue that he really didn’t absorb Wright’s heresy because he didn’t attend regular services. We now know that he hooked up with Wright because of the influence associated with his club. Now, what will those who believe in Obama’s “deep religious convictions” say about all of this? Well, of course they’ll defend it as “God called him to lead and He understands that this is a really busy time for him”.
That said, let’s not toot the “church attendance” horn for Bush or Clinton, as we know that (according to the words that leave their mouths) they are not Christians either.
IndependentConservative reply on November 25th, 2008 at 4:46 pm :
Well when you go by Obama’s take, we don’t know if he was at J. Wrong’s spot every week or every now and then.
His campaign literature said “committed Christian” and many say he is. I’m just never seeing it.
December 8th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Hi1 It has been a while since I’ve made any comments, but because you made a comment concerning The Roman Catholic Church in your post, I am curious as to your view on Catholocism in general. I assume you do not agree with this sect of Christianity. FYI: I grew up as a Roman Catholic. Most of my family is Catholic. I do admit, I no longer attend mass on a regular basis and yes, it is out of shear laziness. I do pray and spend time with God on my own without attending an organized service.
IndependentConservative reply on December 8th, 2008 at 2:35 pm :
Hi AirborneVet,
Given the size of the Roman Catholic following, we all know plenty of people who are into it. But I stand very much against Roman Catholic traditions and the links to material in the post above detail some reasons why. Please take some time to check out these reasons why.
Roman Catholicism Versus The Bible. As Always, Bible Wins! (*Updated*)
The Mass and the sacrifice of Christ
And some others to check out:
Avoid the Idolatry of Mary Worship
Roman Catholicism Is Not Biblical
December 8th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Thank you for the links. I will check those out in my copious free time. Free time- Ha! Since I don’t get online much anymore, Have a wonderful Christmas! I will visit again when I can!
IndependentConservative reply on December 8th, 2008 at 3:54 pm :
You have a wonderful Christmas as well.