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	<title>Comments on: False Bishop Eddie Lee Long Shows Us How NOT To Perform Charity.</title>
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		<title>By: Str8Shooter</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-11550</link>
		<dc:creator>Str8Shooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, 
If there was any doubt about what Eddie is about, it is clear now.  Money Money Money!  Who cares that the abortion rate amongst blacks is now higher than the live birth rate of blacks?  Who cares about Putin, Ahmadinejad, and Chavez plotting on the US and Israel.  And who cares about the efforts to silence the churches freedom of speech on moral issues killing the people.  As long as the dollars are rolling, Life is Good.... This is absurd!  I guess this is the type mindset that makes you wear muscle shirts in the pulpit.  Your Best life Now, 10 Ways to Blow Up....  How can someone preach hell if the main concern is Today and Now?  Please pray for the folks at New Birth.  I guess if the market crashes again Eddie will be selling prayer clothes with the New Birth emblem.
People are on their way to Hell in a hand basket and we are talking about the economy?  In one day the economy can fold and your little money is gone, but if our eyes are fixed are what God&#039;s says in his Word to the faithful and righteous, we shouldnt be worried about Wall Street, Main Street or MLK Blvd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan,<br />
If there was any doubt about what Eddie is about, it is clear now.  Money Money Money!  Who cares that the abortion rate amongst blacks is now higher than the live birth rate of blacks?  Who cares about Putin, Ahmadinejad, and Chavez plotting on the US and Israel.  And who cares about the efforts to silence the churches freedom of speech on moral issues killing the people.  As long as the dollars are rolling, Life is Good&#8230;. This is absurd!  I guess this is the type mindset that makes you wear muscle shirts in the pulpit.  Your Best life Now, 10 Ways to Blow Up&#8230;.  How can someone preach hell if the main concern is Today and Now?  Please pray for the folks at New Birth.  I guess if the market crashes again Eddie will be selling prayer clothes with the New Birth emblem.<br />
People are on their way to Hell in a hand basket and we are talking about the economy?  In one day the economy can fold and your little money is gone, but if our eyes are fixed are what God&#8217;s says in his Word to the faithful and righteous, we shouldnt be worried about Wall Street, Main Street or MLK Blvd.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-11549</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddie Long&#039;s kingdom is of this world, because he preaches the doctrine of the father of it.  Or I should say, the god of it, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=54&amp;chapter=4&amp;verse=4&amp;version=49&amp;context=verse&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2 Corinthians 4:4&lt;/a&gt;, who is the father of LIES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie Long&#8217;s kingdom is of this world, because he preaches the doctrine of the father of it.  Or I should say, the god of it, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=54&#038;chapter=4&#038;verse=4&#038;version=49&#038;context=verse" rel="nofollow">2 Corinthians 4:4</a>, who is the father of LIES.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-11548</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I decided to stop in on Eddie preaching on TBN tonight. He told the crowd that God mandates that we change the culture. That the church is missing it by not offering the fish (the unsaved) what they&#039;re hungry for; but we&#039;re offering them what we want to feed them. IOW, we need to give them what they seek (how to have a successful family, job, finances) not to offer them a &quot;retirement plan for eternity,&quot; which is a way of disparaging the gospel&#039;s main promise: Salvation from our sins. 

He also said the election is about three issues: 1. The economy; 2. The economy; 3. The economy. Wow. 

Anyway, more of the same recycled Dominionist delusions that promote a dominant place in this world and age rather than being prepared for the eternal kingdom under Christ. 

If we&#039;re supposed to change the culture and take it over, would it not be part of the Spirit&#039;s general leading in believers&#039; lives? And, would not Jesus have said, &quot;My Kingdom &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; of this world?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided to stop in on Eddie preaching on TBN tonight. He told the crowd that God mandates that we change the culture. That the church is missing it by not offering the fish (the unsaved) what they&#8217;re hungry for; but we&#8217;re offering them what we want to feed them. IOW, we need to give them what they seek (how to have a successful family, job, finances) not to offer them a &#8220;retirement plan for eternity,&#8221; which is a way of disparaging the gospel&#8217;s main promise: Salvation from our sins. </p>
<p>He also said the election is about three issues: 1. The economy; 2. The economy; 3. The economy. Wow. </p>
<p>Anyway, more of the same recycled Dominionist delusions that promote a dominant place in this world and age rather than being prepared for the eternal kingdom under Christ. </p>
<p>If we&#8217;re supposed to change the culture and take it over, would it not be part of the Spirit&#8217;s general leading in believers&#8217; lives? And, would not Jesus have said, &#8220;My Kingdom <i>is</i> of this world?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-11530</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a very good video, so is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF2Cbil4jnY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Part 2.&lt;/a&gt;  Keep spreading the truth brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a very good video, so is <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF2Cbil4jnY" rel="nofollow">Part 2.</a>  Keep spreading the truth brother.</p>
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		<title>By: digitalflava</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-11528</link>
		<dc:creator>digitalflava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is only good in our eyes, not God&#039;s. We should see things His way and are told not to lean on our own understanding. So what he gave that woman a car. Christ Jesus still calls him a hypocrite. Now if we see things your way, then the Robin Hood story, tho fictional, would be a good story to follow. Its like you are saying that it is okay to rob from the rich just as longs as the poor benefits in the end. No, it is wrong regardless even if the good deed of giving to the poor was done. Even tho the poor people have less worries after the fact, it does not matter.

Another example would be a drug dealer trying to justify his lifestyle or deeds simply because he has a child to feed. Yes, the child has to eat, but lives had to be ruined for it to happen. What you are saying is wrong according to scripture and Jesus&#039; own words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is only good in our eyes, not God&#8217;s. We should see things His way and are told not to lean on our own understanding. So what he gave that woman a car. Christ Jesus still calls him a hypocrite. Now if we see things your way, then the Robin Hood story, tho fictional, would be a good story to follow. Its like you are saying that it is okay to rob from the rich just as longs as the poor benefits in the end. No, it is wrong regardless even if the good deed of giving to the poor was done. Even tho the poor people have less worries after the fact, it does not matter.</p>
<p>Another example would be a drug dealer trying to justify his lifestyle or deeds simply because he has a child to feed. Yes, the child has to eat, but lives had to be ruined for it to happen. What you are saying is wrong according to scripture and Jesus&#8217; own words.</p>
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		<title>By: digitalflava</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-11527</link>
		<dc:creator>digitalflava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made a YouTube Video about this same act done by Bishop Long. Here is the link: Titled &quot;How Bishop Eddie Long Hindered His Blessing&quot; - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerg4v042Y</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a YouTube Video about this same act done by Bishop Long. Here is the link: Titled &#8220;How Bishop Eddie Long Hindered His Blessing&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerg4v042Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerg4v042Y</a></p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-11425</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/#comment-11416&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;you can read about how that usually goes here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/#comment-11416" rel="nofollow">you can read about how that usually goes here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: truthintheselastdays</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-11424</link>
		<dc:creator>truthintheselastdays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IC,

Did you notice how many folks started to put to slam money on the altar once he announced he was buying the woman a car?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IC,</p>
<p>Did you notice how many folks started to put to slam money on the altar once he announced he was buying the woman a car?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-11417</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speakingtruth - It&#039;s really rather pompous, that a man would do things in a manner so that he could set something up with saying &lt;b&gt;&quot;When I manifest this.&quot;&lt;/b&gt; and then say things to see the woman jumping around him.  And of course, for Eddie that was not enough, cameras even were there on the car lot.  The video was packaged and as we see is now distributed online.  I&#039;m only surprised Eddie didn&#039;t put a picture of himself on the side of the car.  But he didn&#039;t need to, given he&#039;s got his packaged and distributed self promotion video.

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And on another note IC - did you see all of those people throwing their money at Eddieâ€™s feet after he â€œblessedâ€ that woman? You and I both know FOR A FACT that the money is collected, processed and put into a general fund - particularly since Eddie â€œboughtâ€ the car for the woman and someone else gave her a job.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh yea, we know she won&#039;t see a dime of that and others in need won&#039;t be seeing that money either, unless they can get into &lt;a href=&quot;http://imspeakingtruth.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/like-son-like-father/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the $300 club.&lt;/a&gt;

You know, even secular companies, that give out gifts at Christmas time are more secretive about their process.  Their &quot;secret Santa&quot; efforts never leave the needy groveling at the face of the actual giver.  This is an issue even the world understands.

But to my shame, I say I used to toss money at that purple step they proclaim to be an &quot;altar&quot;.  Till &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/22/dwo_ben_gilbert/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Lord showed me why to avoid such things.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speakingtruth &#8211; It&#8217;s really rather pompous, that a man would do things in a manner so that he could set something up with saying <b>&#8220;When I manifest this.&#8221;</b> and then say things to see the woman jumping around him.  And of course, for Eddie that was not enough, cameras even were there on the car lot.  The video was packaged and as we see is now distributed online.  I&#8217;m only surprised Eddie didn&#8217;t put a picture of himself on the side of the car.  But he didn&#8217;t need to, given he&#8217;s got his packaged and distributed self promotion video.</p>
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And on another note IC &#8211; did you see all of those people throwing their money at Eddieâ€™s feet after he â€œblessedâ€ that woman? You and I both know FOR A FACT that the money is collected, processed and put into a general fund &#8211; particularly since Eddie â€œboughtâ€ the car for the woman and someone else gave her a job.
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<p>Oh yea, we know she won&#8217;t see a dime of that and others in need won&#8217;t be seeing that money either, unless they can get into <a href="http://imspeakingtruth.wordpress.com/2008/03/19/like-son-like-father/" rel="nofollow">the $300 club.</a></p>
<p>You know, even secular companies, that give out gifts at Christmas time are more secretive about their process.  Their &#8220;secret Santa&#8221; efforts never leave the needy groveling at the face of the actual giver.  This is an issue even the world understands.</p>
<p>But to my shame, I say I used to toss money at that purple step they proclaim to be an &#8220;altar&#8221;.  Till <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/22/dwo_ben_gilbert/" rel="nofollow">the Lord showed me why to avoid such things.</a></p>
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		<title>By: speakingtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/10/03/false-bishop-eddie-lee-long-hypocrite-charity/comment-page-1/#comment-11416</link>
		<dc:creator>speakingtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, &lt;b&lt;Str8Shooter, Eddie and T.I. have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://imspeakingtruth.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/when-a-pimp-throws-a-party/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mutually beneficial relationship&lt;/a&gt;.

Like I said before - Eddie Long is a egomaniac and a user. If someone gets &quot;blessed&quot; in the process of him exercising his massive ego, then it is truly an unintended consequence. Like many have said before on this blog - Eddie got his reward when all of Club New Birth was jumping and shouting.

And on another note &lt;b&gt;IC&lt;/b&gt; - did you see all of those people throwing their money at Eddie&#039;s feet after he &quot;blessed&quot; that woman? You and I both know FOR A FACT that the money is collected, processed and put into a general fund - particularly since Eddie &quot;bought&quot; the car for the woman and someone else gave her a job.

Even in those instances where people give money to people in need, CNB finds out exactely how much money they need and make sure that they only get the exact amount - AND NOT A PENNY MORE. If someone needs $1,000 and the congregation gives $7,000, then guess how much the needy person gets? The rest is considered &quot;increase for the Kingdom&quot; :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, &lt;b&lt;Str8Shooter, Eddie and T.I. have a <a href="http://imspeakingtruth.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/when-a-pimp-throws-a-party/" rel="nofollow">mutually beneficial relationship</a>.</p>
<p>Like I said before &#8211; Eddie Long is a egomaniac and a user. If someone gets &#8220;blessed&#8221; in the process of him exercising his massive ego, then it is truly an unintended consequence. Like many have said before on this blog &#8211; Eddie got his reward when all of Club New Birth was jumping and shouting.</p>
<p>And on another note <b>IC</b> &#8211; did you see all of those people throwing their money at Eddie&#8217;s feet after he &#8220;blessed&#8221; that woman? You and I both know FOR A FACT that the money is collected, processed and put into a general fund &#8211; particularly since Eddie &#8220;bought&#8221; the car for the woman and someone else gave her a job.</p>
<p>Even in those instances where people give money to people in need, CNB finds out exactely how much money they need and make sure that they only get the exact amount &#8211; AND NOT A PENNY MORE. If someone needs $1,000 and the congregation gives $7,000, then guess how much the needy person gets? The rest is considered &#8220;increase for the Kingdom&#8221; <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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