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September 9, 2008

Our Brother In Christ Needs Your Help.

by @ 11:28 am. Filed under Saints In Need

Kyle Andrews alerted me to the blog Truth Matters, a blog that earnestly contends for the faith. And Kyle pointed out a post to me titled Prayer and Help For My Mother, Carol. This is a moment for the church to help one in need. Paypal donations are being accepted, but if you don’t have Paypal, see the blogger’s profile page and contact him for another means to help. Keep in mind, with Paypal donations there is a transaction fee that Paypal will take from whatever is donated. So consider giving an extra dollar or 2 to cover the transaction expenses.

In the post Prayer and Help For My Mother, Carol, you’ll even notice in the 3rd comment, how a fanatic of false teachers mocks in this time of need for that blogger. I may be totally against the teachings of someone such as Rick Warren, but if he or one of his followers were in real need I pray I would abide by Romans 12:20 instead of mocking them. Perhaps one day the Lord will show them better and considering Ephesians 4:26-27 I won’t let their evil drive me to rage.

Helping the blogger who has made the request won’t get you any big money in return in this life. It won’t heal all your physical ailments. It won’t cause all your unsaved family remembers to suddenly repent. It will just be a case of saints helping each other and you should only give if you really feel it is for you to give.



10 Responses to “Our Brother In Christ Needs Your Help.”

  1. key2truth Says:

    IC, I was touched after reading this brother’s mum health condition. Indeed, I’ve been in similar situation where my mum was very sick in Africa and at the point of death last year. My family couldn’t send her to hospital for lack of fund as is mostly the case in Africa where there is no social security. They were reluctant to let me know because they knew I was going through some financial difficulties here in the US. However, the good news is that my mum is not only alive today but WHOLE! The blood of Jesus is the most potent weapon against every sickness and disease. May the healing virtue of the stripes that Jesus experienced heal her (Is.53v3) spirit, soul, and body. Amen. We are called in Christ to bear each others burden in order to fulfill the law of Christ (Gal.6v2).

    IndependentConservative reply on September 10th, 2008 at 10:23 am :

    Praise God through Jesus Christ that your mother is in good health.

    You may want to read over Isaiah 53 in full considering healing from sin rather than physical ailments. Because the stripes/scourging mentioned in verse 5 are regarding healing from sin. Please see how it relates perfectly with 1 Peter 2:21-25.

    Certainly people are healed in this life as the Lord wills, but here there are no guarantees. We are guaranteed after this life when the Lord returns, that our old physical bodies will be raised up from their graves and we’ll be given new bodies that never get sick, 1 Corinthians 15.

  2. key2truth Says:

    IC, thanks for the correction! I agree that people are healed in this life as the Lord wills. Indeed, nothing shall separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus (Romans 8v35-39).

  3. key2truth Says:

    IC,I believe that one is healed according to God’s will. I also believe that ultimately the Lord will give us a glorified body at His coming. However,I want to shed more light about God’s will concerning healing. Do you remember that Jesus once commanded the 12 disciples to heal the sick, even raise the dead,cleanse the lepers and drive out demons!(Matt.10v1-8).One may say,”But they were commanded only to heal the Jews”. My answer is yes, in the context of the passage. However, Peter was used by God to heal a paralytic in Lydda, and was used also by God to raise Dorcas from death in Joppa(Acts.9v32-442).Paul also was used by God to heal the sick and cast out demons among the Gentiles(Acts 14v8-10; Acts 16v16-18;Acts 19v11-12 etc). Even Jesus healed the Canaanite woman’s daughter who was sick because of her faith,though she was a Gentile (Matt.15v21-28). Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever(Heb.13v8). If Christ Jesus healed when He was here on earth and also healed using the disciples and the apostles, He will surely do same today. Jesus even says that anyone who has faith in Him will not only do same things like He did but greater(John 14v12). The psalmist said that He(God) sent His word and healed us and delivered us from destruction(psalm 107v20. I believe that this scripture not only talks about deliverance from sin and death but also healing to the body. God’s word is Christ (Jn.1v1;Gen.1v3. Even Moses referred to the Lord as the one who heals(Exodus 16v26). Again, you may say that he was referring to the Jews.My answer again is yes. But who is the Lord that he was talking about? The scriptures says,”Hear,O Israel,the Lord our God is one Lord(Deut.6v4). You may say again that Moses was addressing the Jews but really is God not the same Lord in all the universe? In Paul’s letter to the Ephesians 4v5-6, he says we have one Lord, one faith, and one baptism; one God and the Father of all…Having said this,I want to also clarify I’ve witnessed people who were not healed though I prayed. I don’t know why but the Lord knows. My eldest brother died of brain tumor. However, we should still pray for the sick peradventure, it may be God’s will to heal them as I stated in the case of my mum. Lastly, I don’t in any way hold brief for some self styled “men of God” who mesmerize their hypnotized audience into believing that they can move the hand of God to heal every disease.

    IndependentConservative reply on September 13th, 2008 at 12:42 pm :

    Hi key2truth,

    I affirm God does still heal people.

    Regarding all the many things you noted by Jesus and the Apostles, Jesus of course is the Son of God, so His healings are a given. The Apostles had the true gift of healing, they healed all that came to them that they prayed to be healed and we have no record of them praying and someone not being healed. This is because they had the true gift of healing. God had Paul to let us know that every saint won’t have that gift in 1 Corinthians 12. Now I’m not saying God can’t grant someone the gift of healing today, but I will say that if someone has it right now we’re hard pressed to find them. Because just like yourself in praying for others, we pray for someone’s healing and it’s never 100%, but yes we certainly still should pray.

    I think you’re making a dangerous move in claiming scripture directed towards Jews for yourself, because if you care to claim the verses that use the term “healing” well than the prosperity pimps would be justified in using verses such as Proverbs 8:18 to claim they should be earthly rich. I think you recognize the error when it comes to misapplying verses to claim material wealth now, but just as the riches come in the next life for the Christian, so does the perfected health.

    Yes God is the same, but God’s covenant with man is not always the same, otherwise there could have never been a fading of the old and introduction of the new for us to have Christ, Hebrews 8:13 and Hebrews 9.

    We certainly agree that we should pray for the sick. We totally agree that God can heal them if He wills. But we have to understand that “greater” was fulfilled 100% by the Apostles of the Lord Jesus and even those with them such as Philip. If that’s not the case, we all should be walking on water or even greater in being teleported, Acts 8:39-40.

    There is a diversity as noted in 1 Corinthians 12 and we have to admit we don’t each have it all. Some things, we can’t find anyone with at the moment.

  4. key2truth Says:

    IC, I understand your point clearly. Firstly, let me respond to your statement,”I think you’re making a dangerous move in claiming scripture directed towards Jews for yourself, because if you care to claim the verses that use the term “healing” well than the prosperity pimps would be justified in using verses such as Proverbs 8:18 to claim they should be earthly rich. I think you recognize the error when it comes to misapplying verses to claim material wealth now, but just as the riches come in the next life for the Christian, so does the perfected health”. To this I must say that you have to crosscheck the scriptures in Gal.3v1-25.We(Believers) have access to God’s blessings to Abraham that the Jews hitherto claimed solely to themselves, by faith in Christ Jesus. Pay particular attention to verse 8,”…All nations will be blessed through you(Abraham). Now, one may ask what is a “blessing”. The word “Bless” means:1. to consecrate or sanctify by a religious rite; make or pronounce holy.
    2. to request of God the bestowal of divine favor on: Bless this house.
    3. to bestow good of any kind upon: a nation blessed with peace.
    4. to extol as holy; glorify: Bless the name of the Lord.
    5. to protect or guard from evil (usually used interjectionally): Bless you! Bless your innocent little heart! So it’s not a curse or a crime for a Christian to be rich. It only becomes a curse when one’s heart is focused on his/riches and not on the giver (God) or doesn’t really know the true purpose of the riches. Which is to expand God’s kingdom. Inasmuch as I don’t support what the pimps do in terms of their “Money grabbing” teachings for the here and now, I still don’t believe that Jesus prohibits believers from being rich. He only said that it will be exceptionally hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God(Mt. 19:24). Remember that Abraham was recorded by the bible to be exceptionally rich, however he trusted in God with all his heart and not in the uncertain riches as brother Paul admonished in (1 Timothy 6:17). If one truly loves the Lord God with All his heart, all his soul,strength and, mind as Christ averred,I don’t think they will trust in the uncertain riches of this world. I agree with you that we are not all going to be rich in this life and that the ultimate wealth lies in attaining life eternal in God’s kingdom. However, you must agree with me that we(believers) need money to “Go ye into all the earth” and preach the good news of God’s kingdom. Not money to compete with the people of “the world” like Donald Trump. IC I know it takes you quite some money to have this site running in order to share the truth of God’s word. I desire and pray that more “true believers” should have more money to put into broadcasting the truth of God’s kingdom and not for entertainment. I agree with you on the issue of spiritual gifts but I must say that the dearth of these gifts today especially, the gift of healing is predicated by wrong teachings. Paul admonished the believers to desire these gifts(1 cor.14v1). How can one truly desire these gifts without love? The church is today marred by greed, avarice, divisions, rancor and acrimony and the spirit of God operates in the atmosphere of peace and tranquility. I totally disagree with your last statement because you can be the one to operate in any of these gifts if you believe(faith) and the Holy spirit wills(James 1v17;Mark 11v222-24).

    IndependentConservative reply on September 13th, 2008 at 7:51 pm :

    …the true purpose of the riches. Which is to expand God’s kingdom.

    Where in the Bible does it mention God needs the money of this world to expand His Kingdom? Who then is expanding the Kingdom, who is bringing sinners to repentance, God or money?

    However, you must agree with me that we(believers) need money to “Go ye into all the earth” and preach the good news of God’s kingdom.

    No I don’t. He didn’t say go get some money, he said go and preach. What we need is to stand firm on the truth, because homeless men greater than ourselves did well, 1 Corinthians 4:11.

    IC I know it takes you quite some money to have this site running in order to share the truth of God’s word. I desire and pray that more “true believers” should have more money to put into broadcasting the truth of God’s kingdom and not for entertainment.

    A blog like this can be up and running for free. I choose to have a blog that I fund for several reasons, but many run blogs that are very good for no money down. And even paying is not a very great expense, considering the pay services know their competitors offer the same for free of charge.

    As to my last statement in my prior comment, when you teleport, please send me the video :D . But seriously, I think this might be worth reading. If we receive as the Lord wills, I’ll maintain humility.

    1 Corinthians 14:1-3 – considering this, I’ll continue to study, pray and seek to offer edification and exhortation and consolation in love as the Lord wills.

    Keep in mind, Jesus raised Lazarus and he later died. The offerings of health and money are temporal. God does not promises we’ll have them for certain in this life and until Jesus returns, saint’s bodies die. What was sometimes shown in physical terms for Jews is that much greater after this life in flesh for those who love God through Jesus Christ.

    I believe God will provide for me as He sees best and if that means I never have the gift of healing, I think I’m in good company with other saints who worked better, harder and never had such a gift either. The fact is this, not since the apostles who had all the spiritual gifts, has a single saint honestly been found that had that gift.

  5. JJBibleMinistry Says:

    Darnell,

    Thank you so much for posting this for my mother and helping us spread the word of our great need. We are more grateful than you know. We are very humbled.

    Thank you.

    Blessings,

    Josh from Truth Matters

  6. key2truth Says:

    IC, your response is quite interesting. Let me start by reminding you of a post you made sometime ago about Christian children violently conscripted into Islam in Nigeria. This seems out of place but bear with me a little while. I happened to have experienced this first hand because I’m actually from Nigeria. There is always a difference in the perspective or viewpoints of different individuals when it comes to hearing a tale from another or actually experiencing something firsthand. Having said this,I must say that the life and experiences of an individual from America is quite different from the life in Africa. You may not know, but majority of Africans are illiterate and cannot afford their basic food not to talk of going to school or access to the internet or worse still electricity. This requires a lot of money. For example,my mother was never able to go to school due to poverty and as a result she can’t read the bible or any literature for that matter. Tell me now,how can she teach or preach the good news if she doesn’t know what is written therein? Till date she solely depends on what she’s fed by both “true” or “false” teachers.
    You brothers and sisters here America enjoy government support that even forces some to attend school,a toddler already knows what an internet is, electricity is constant and goes unnoticed. For once in my life I’m not even afraid of going to church for fear that Islamic fundamentalist could strike and hack worshipers to death and burn down my place of worship. When this happens, we always need money to rebuild my brother.We never go begging the moslems to pay us for the structures they destroyed or pay for the lives lost. Tell me brother, have you ever gone on a mission to Africa or any of the 3rd world countries in Asia? whenever you make up your mind tell me if you need money or not to take you there? I would also want you to explain to me what Paul meant about collecting money for the saints in Jerusalem and what such money was actually used for?(1cor.16v2-4). I know it actually cost you money to acquire your internet skill or is it also a gift from God? Well if you don’t need money please do send some to Africa. There are a lot of kids out there who don’t have money and government support to go to school. With the knowledge they may acquire, they can also read and understand you better like I do if you can also buy them a bible. I’m greatly privileged to be here in the US on a US scholarship. It took money, a lot of it for me to go to school over here. If not how would I have gained the knowledge to discuss with a gifted mind like you.

    IndependentConservative reply on September 15th, 2008 at 10:48 am :

    Perhaps your mother needs someone to teach her how to read more than she needs money? While we all don’t want buildings burned down, the Bible never says there needs to be a dedicated building for church meetings. Not saying the buildings should not be rebuilt, just pointing out scripture does not affirm a dedicated and separate building for meetings is necessary. But still when you cite scriptures about collecting money, you’re citing where saints needed money for their personal needs. Yes money would be a means for your mother to buy a teacher and such. However, this does not mean money is the means by which God brings people into the church.

    Some of the most effective ministers of the gospel had no money at all. How much money does one need to got and preach to those around them? You’re asking me to go to Africa or elsewhere, no I’ve never been and no I can’t say for certain if I ever will. I don’t need a trip there to know that the people there who are claiming to spread the gospel need to be doing it in truth rather than error. The need is for them to preach the truth and not lies, that does not require money, but them to allow the Holy Spirit to lead.

    To share the gospel money is at times used, but what is needed is for the truth to be told.

    Acts 9:31, I don’t see money there, I see as the Lord wills, because money certainly did not buy that. I certainly pray the Lord keep saints in Nigeria and elsewhere from harm as He wills. Certainly we saints should help those in need as we are able. Sometimes that involves money. No I don’t agree that we “need” money to go do what Jesus commanded, but rather we need Him.

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