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	<title>Comments on: Why Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. And Sarah Louise Heath Palin Only Reinforce My Not Voting For Obama Or McCain!</title>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/09/03/biden_palin_vp_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11225</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
(whether the Marxist Obama or the maverick McCain)
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The Marxist Obama and the Fraud McCain.

SG, your time away has brought you back with language that is not usually your manner of speaking.  Do you think it will inspire someone to vote for your guy John McLame?

And you know the deal here, if you&#039;re going to make accusations about a man, offer up some proof please.  Anybody can call anyone names.

You&#039;re speaking against someone, calling them a &quot;conspiracy nut&quot;, while you&#039;ve asserted a claim that you have not provided proof for yourself.

Are you warming up for a political run :D ?</description>
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(whether the Marxist Obama or the maverick McCain)
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<p>The Marxist Obama and the Fraud McCain.</p>
<p>SG, your time away has brought you back with language that is not usually your manner of speaking.  Do you think it will inspire someone to vote for your guy John McLame?</p>
<p>And you know the deal here, if you&#8217;re going to make accusations about a man, offer up some proof please.  Anybody can call anyone names.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re speaking against someone, calling them a &#8220;conspiracy nut&#8221;, while you&#8217;ve asserted a claim that you have not provided proof for yourself.</p>
<p>Are you warming up for a political run <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  ?</p>
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		<title>By: SteelGator</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/09/03/biden_palin_vp_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11223</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KyleAndrews, are you a real conspiracy nut?  Some of what you say is true but then you turn around and say something stupid.  I used to believe all the conspiracy garbage as well blah, blah, blah.  Satan does not need to use some hidden agenda to fool the masses into rejecting Christ in favor of mammon.  Satan can and does manipulated the godless right out in the open.

As for the election, it is Caesars world so both candidates are going to be products of the Caesar system.  However, God&#039;s Will (whether the Marxist Obama or the maverick McCain)will be done!

Do you not believe that we have a terrorist threat from the Islamofacists?  

I see you must listen to the homo Savage.  I would be careful believing what he says.  He has been a closet homosexual for years.  I guess the very Bishop Jakes and Savage could spend a weekend together and find a great deal in common.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KyleAndrews, are you a real conspiracy nut?  Some of what you say is true but then you turn around and say something stupid.  I used to believe all the conspiracy garbage as well blah, blah, blah.  Satan does not need to use some hidden agenda to fool the masses into rejecting Christ in favor of mammon.  Satan can and does manipulated the godless right out in the open.</p>
<p>As for the election, it is Caesars world so both candidates are going to be products of the Caesar system.  However, God&#8217;s Will (whether the Marxist Obama or the maverick McCain)will be done!</p>
<p>Do you not believe that we have a terrorist threat from the Islamofacists?  </p>
<p>I see you must listen to the homo Savage.  I would be careful believing what he says.  He has been a closet homosexual for years.  I guess the very Bishop Jakes and Savage could spend a weekend together and find a great deal in common.</p>
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		<title>By: key2truth</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/09/03/biden_palin_vp_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11221</link>
		<dc:creator>key2truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IC,your reply to dsmurfy is quite interesting. I found myself in a similar stance in my country(Africa). I must say however, that the only reason I didn&#039;t vote was because nobody&#039;s vote ever counted. You are even killed for exercising your civic responsibility of voting against whoever the incumbent wants to win. Mind you they(incumbent), control ALL the apparatus of government(Army,Police, judiciary etc)because there is no separation of power and they use this apparatus to rig elections to their favor. However, things are different here in the US. You have a choice to vote for who you choose to without fear of being killed.  
My point therefore is that your voting or not won&#039;t change anything because God&#039;s plan will surely be fulfilled concerning this age.Be it Obama or McCain, they will only hasten the manifestation of the antichrist. Jesus called all the 12 disciples but predicted that one must betray Him which Judas eventually accomplished. Today, there are willing vessels that can fulfill the whims of the antichrist as predicted by Christ Jesus,they must not necessarily only be an Obama or McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IC,your reply to dsmurfy is quite interesting. I found myself in a similar stance in my country(Africa). I must say however, that the only reason I didn&#8217;t vote was because nobody&#8217;s vote ever counted. You are even killed for exercising your civic responsibility of voting against whoever the incumbent wants to win. Mind you they(incumbent), control ALL the apparatus of government(Army,Police, judiciary etc)because there is no separation of power and they use this apparatus to rig elections to their favor. However, things are different here in the US. You have a choice to vote for who you choose to without fear of being killed.<br />
My point therefore is that your voting or not won&#8217;t change anything because God&#8217;s plan will surely be fulfilled concerning this age.Be it Obama or McCain, they will only hasten the manifestation of the antichrist. Jesus called all the 12 disciples but predicted that one must betray Him which Judas eventually accomplished. Today, there are willing vessels that can fulfill the whims of the antichrist as predicted by Christ Jesus,they must not necessarily only be an Obama or McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/09/03/biden_palin_vp_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11217</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said they don&#039;t.  But for me, when &lt;b&gt;I KNOW&lt;/b&gt; they stink, I don&#039;t cast a vote for them ;) .

Perhaps if everyone on my ballot was as heavily scrutinized and investigated I&#039;d know more about them too.  But if I don&#039;t know, I&#039;ll work with what I do know, hahaha :lol:  :) .

Really, as they rise up the ranks is when they start having to take on even more dirt.  Both Obama and McCain have done some mess recently that they never did before, just in their pandering for votes and it continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said they don&#8217;t.  But for me, when <b>I KNOW</b> they stink, I don&#8217;t cast a vote for them <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>Perhaps if everyone on my ballot was as heavily scrutinized and investigated I&#8217;d know more about them too.  But if I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;ll work with what I do know, hahaha <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>Really, as they rise up the ranks is when they start having to take on even more dirt.  Both Obama and McCain have done some mess recently that they never did before, just in their pandering for votes and it continues.</p>
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		<title>By: dsmurfy1</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/09/03/biden_palin_vp_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11216</link>
		<dc:creator>dsmurfy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, IC! But another question: are we so sure that those in the other races aren&#039;t just as corrupt? Working for the government myself, I&#039;ve found that almost all have a certain &quot;stench&quot; on them once they get power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, IC! But another question: are we so sure that those in the other races aren&#8217;t just as corrupt? Working for the government myself, I&#8217;ve found that almost all have a certain &#8220;stench&#8221; on them once they get power.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/09/03/biden_palin_vp_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11215</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi dsmurfy1,

Our Lord told us the following:
&lt;b&gt;John 18:36 (New American Standard Bible)&lt;/b&gt;
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 36 Jesus answered, &quot;My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.&quot; 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So I have learned not to take much stock at all in the political exercises of men.  Yes I vote, but this time around I won&#039;t have my name giving approval for any of the current field of Presidential candidates.  I&#039;ll be voting for the other races on my ballot minus President, unless a Presidential candidate comes along that I care to support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi dsmurfy1,</p>
<p>Our Lord told us the following:<br />
<b>John 18:36 (New American Standard Bible)</b></p>
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 36 Jesus answered, &#8220;My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.&#8221;
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<p>So I have learned not to take much stock at all in the political exercises of men.  Yes I vote, but this time around I won&#8217;t have my name giving approval for any of the current field of Presidential candidates.  I&#8217;ll be voting for the other races on my ballot minus President, unless a Presidential candidate comes along that I care to support.</p>
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		<title>By: dsmurfy1</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/09/03/biden_palin_vp_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11214</link>
		<dc:creator>dsmurfy1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well then who does that leave to vote for? Is it really wise not to vote at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well then who does that leave to vote for? Is it really wise not to vote at all?</p>
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		<title>By: truthis</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/09/03/biden_palin_vp_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11213</link>
		<dc:creator>truthis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just knew that you would have a post on this you have been trying to warn us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just knew that you would have a post on this you have been trying to warn us.</p>
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		<title>By: KyleAndrews</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/09/03/biden_palin_vp_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11212</link>
		<dc:creator>KyleAndrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KyleNYC,

Let me expound further.  The media purposely did not dig up the dirt on Obama until late in the game.  Clinton would have steam rolled over him if the media did their job.  However, the media is owned lock stock and barrel by the elite.  I really think the real rulers gave her the thumbs own.

Kyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KyleNYC,</p>
<p>Let me expound further.  The media purposely did not dig up the dirt on Obama until late in the game.  Clinton would have steam rolled over him if the media did their job.  However, the media is owned lock stock and barrel by the elite.  I really think the real rulers gave her the thumbs own.</p>
<p>Kyle</p>
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		<title>By: KyleAndrews</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/09/03/biden_palin_vp_issues/comment-page-1/#comment-11211</link>
		<dc:creator>KyleAndrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KyleNYC,

Absolutely not.  Hillary is not the one who decides.  The Powers that be understand that they have their charismatic utopian socialist in Obama.  He is next up.  

However, as I have stated above the Powers that be are doing quite a job on statistic manipulation to help ensure a McCain victory.  If its close they can always do a little tinkering with the vote count.  

In fact, Sarah Palin was red meat for the Christian Conservative dolts out there.  You have to understand that she represents the superficial base.  Every Conservative (except Savage) just fawned over her.  In other words they are not interested in real leadership.  Just give them a cute soccer Mom with 5 kids and is pro-life and you got the base hooked.  

Kyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KyleNYC,</p>
<p>Absolutely not.  Hillary is not the one who decides.  The Powers that be understand that they have their charismatic utopian socialist in Obama.  He is next up.  </p>
<p>However, as I have stated above the Powers that be are doing quite a job on statistic manipulation to help ensure a McCain victory.  If its close they can always do a little tinkering with the vote count.  </p>
<p>In fact, Sarah Palin was red meat for the Christian Conservative dolts out there.  You have to understand that she represents the superficial base.  Every Conservative (except Savage) just fawned over her.  In other words they are not interested in real leadership.  Just give them a cute soccer Mom with 5 kids and is pro-life and you got the base hooked.  </p>
<p>Kyle</p>
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