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	<title>Comments on: The Silence is Coming to an End.  TD Jakes is Being Exposed as a Homosexual.</title>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/08/29/td-jakes-is-being-exposed-as-a-homosexual/comment-page-1/#comment-11201</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know when Jakes started with TBN, but you know every time someone posts a video of the old news reports of the TBN/Lonnie Ford scandal anywhere online, those videos &quot;disappear&quot;...  Without the text news reports by MSM sources, the entire scandal might be harder to explain to anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know when Jakes started with TBN, but you know every time someone posts a video of the old news reports of the TBN/Lonnie Ford scandal anywhere online, those videos &#8220;disappear&#8221;&#8230;  Without the text news reports by MSM sources, the entire scandal might be harder to explain to anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: DL Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>truthis...that is an astonishing connection.
From what I understand Dottie Rambo was the one who actually brought Jakes to TBN, and on her reccomendation to Paul Crouch, Jakes is led to prominence. 

1. Dottie Rambo was tolerant of homosexual activity. Her daughter and son in law establish a gay friendly church in Nashville http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/dottie-rambo-killed-in-tragic-mishap/

2. Paul Crouch all but admitted his involvement in an adulterous homosexual affair with Lonnie Ford (a convicted child molestor who Crouch gave a choice job as a &quot;phone counselor&quot; at TBN) Ford, by the way was a member of Clarence McClendon&#039;s church and was instrumental in getting McClendon on TBN. http://articles.latimes.com/2004/sep/12/local/me-lonnie12

Does anyone know when Jakes first appeared on TBN?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>truthis&#8230;that is an astonishing connection.<br />
From what I understand Dottie Rambo was the one who actually brought Jakes to TBN, and on her reccomendation to Paul Crouch, Jakes is led to prominence. </p>
<p>1. Dottie Rambo was tolerant of homosexual activity. Her daughter and son in law establish a gay friendly church in Nashville <a href="http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/dottie-rambo-killed-in-tragic-mishap/" rel="nofollow">http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/dottie-rambo-killed-in-tragic-mishap/</a></p>
<p>2. Paul Crouch all but admitted his involvement in an adulterous homosexual affair with Lonnie Ford (a convicted child molestor who Crouch gave a choice job as a &#8220;phone counselor&#8221; at TBN) Ford, by the way was a member of Clarence McClendon&#8217;s church and was instrumental in getting McClendon on TBN. <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2004/sep/12/local/me-lonnie12" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2004/sep/12/local/me-lonnie12</a></p>
<p>Does anyone know when Jakes first appeared on TBN?</p>
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		<title>By: truthis</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/08/29/td-jakes-is-being-exposed-as-a-homosexual/comment-page-1/#comment-11198</link>
		<dc:creator>truthis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will speak from another point..
you said &quot;If you are the abused and suffering person then why go public unless you are just trying to coerce money out of this ministry?&quot;
.. For those who are sexually abused for example- there is a list of the known perps in each neighborhood. If a coach is messing with my children ..sound the alarm so he does not mess with my son and daughter again. If its true-we expose to stop it!!! So if anyone has been abused by a family member-a trusted person in position..Expose to stop the mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will speak from another point..<br />
you said &#8220;If you are the abused and suffering person then why go public unless you are just trying to coerce money out of this ministry?&#8221;<br />
.. For those who are sexually abused for example- there is a list of the known perps in each neighborhood. If a coach is messing with my children ..sound the alarm so he does not mess with my son and daughter again. If its true-we expose to stop it!!! So if anyone has been abused by a family member-a trusted person in position..Expose to stop the mess.</p>
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		<title>By: truthis</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/08/29/td-jakes-is-being-exposed-as-a-homosexual/comment-page-1/#comment-11197</link>
		<dc:creator>truthis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 04:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: Hey remember that Jakes was seen by Paul Crouch on tv before he brought him to the international stage..hmph.. Paul Crouch Sr had allegations of homosexuality written in a Chicago paper a few years back. Lord, help us. This is starting to sound like another secret society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: Hey remember that Jakes was seen by Paul Crouch on tv before he brought him to the international stage..hmph.. Paul Crouch Sr had allegations of homosexuality written in a Chicago paper a few years back. Lord, help us. This is starting to sound like another secret society.</p>
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		<title>By: Airbrush Artist</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/08/29/td-jakes-is-being-exposed-as-a-homosexual/comment-page-1/#comment-11189</link>
		<dc:creator>Airbrush Artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone comes to You or Writes to You, Turn from Them ,I need No Prophet from This World today because I have the unchanging Infallible Word of The Living God..Nothing More Need be said..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone comes to You or Writes to You, Turn from Them ,I need No Prophet from This World today because I have the unchanging Infallible Word of The Living God..Nothing More Need be said..</p>
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		<title>By: key2truth</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/08/29/td-jakes-is-being-exposed-as-a-homosexual/comment-page-1/#comment-11187</link>
		<dc:creator>key2truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God&#039;s people we shouldn&#039;t let today&#039;s happenings in the churches wear us down because it was meant to be. Christ foretold about false christs and false prophets (Matt.24v24-25). Moreover, Christ says,&quot;And many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.Because of increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold&quot; (Matt.24v 11-12).
Satan knows that his time is short and judgement is soon to come so he&#039;s trying to claim a lot of victims with him.
(Rev. 12v12).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God&#8217;s people we shouldn&#8217;t let today&#8217;s happenings in the churches wear us down because it was meant to be. Christ foretold about false christs and false prophets (Matt.24v24-25). Moreover, Christ says,&#8221;And many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.Because of increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold&#8221; (Matt.24v 11-12).<br />
Satan knows that his time is short and judgement is soon to come so he&#8217;s trying to claim a lot of victims with him.<br />
(Rev. 12v12).</p>
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		<title>By: key2truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>key2truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ Reese,all I can tell you is to only put your trust in the living God and not on any man be he a &quot;man of God&quot;. The book of Proverbs 3v5 says it clearly,&quot;Trust in the Lord with ALL your heart...&quot; I won&#039;t be surprised at all if Richard Youngblood&#039;s allegation turns out to be true. You should be aware of the case of Ted Haggart mentioned by IC. Ted was the head of the Evangelicals here in the US and he even had easy access to George Bush Jr. We all have to be aware that in these &quot;last days&quot; the devil is using every weapon in his arsenal to bring every Christian down especially the so called &quot;men of God&quot;. That&#039;s why the bible encourages us to be &quot;self-controlled&quot; and &quot;alert&quot; because the devil is prowling about like a wounded lion seeking for who to devour (1 Peter 5v8).So the devil will use whatever gets you out of control to get you be it sex, money, power etc.The key is to &quot;Resist&quot; him and stand firm in the faith (1Pet.5v9). Remember that Jesus was also tempted but overcame satan with God&#039;s word(Matt.4v1-11).
be mindful of Jesus word in Matt.7v15-23 about wolves in sheep clothing. Today, there are many wolves out there pretending to be sheep. Beware! Jesus even mentioned about them performing miracles, signs and wonders. Beware! the key here is &quot;By their fruit you shall know them&quot;. So if TD JAKES truly mingles with the homosexuals without correcting or rebuking them in line with the truth in the scripture, then I&#039;m wary of what he truly stands for in the first place. I also read some quotes attributed to him about his stand on homosexuality and islam and I must say I was truly disappointed. My advice to all including my humble self is to adhere to Christs teaching in Matt. 10v16 (..Be shrewd as the snakes and innocent as the dove).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ Reese,all I can tell you is to only put your trust in the living God and not on any man be he a &#8220;man of God&#8221;. The book of Proverbs 3v5 says it clearly,&#8221;Trust in the Lord with ALL your heart&#8230;&#8221; I won&#8217;t be surprised at all if Richard Youngblood&#8217;s allegation turns out to be true. You should be aware of the case of Ted Haggart mentioned by IC. Ted was the head of the Evangelicals here in the US and he even had easy access to George Bush Jr. We all have to be aware that in these &#8220;last days&#8221; the devil is using every weapon in his arsenal to bring every Christian down especially the so called &#8220;men of God&#8221;. That&#8217;s why the bible encourages us to be &#8220;self-controlled&#8221; and &#8220;alert&#8221; because the devil is prowling about like a wounded lion seeking for who to devour (1 Peter 5v8).So the devil will use whatever gets you out of control to get you be it sex, money, power etc.The key is to &#8220;Resist&#8221; him and stand firm in the faith (1Pet.5v9). Remember that Jesus was also tempted but overcame satan with God&#8217;s word(Matt.4v1-11).<br />
be mindful of Jesus word in Matt.7v15-23 about wolves in sheep clothing. Today, there are many wolves out there pretending to be sheep. Beware! Jesus even mentioned about them performing miracles, signs and wonders. Beware! the key here is &#8220;By their fruit you shall know them&#8221;. So if TD JAKES truly mingles with the homosexuals without correcting or rebuking them in line with the truth in the scripture, then I&#8217;m wary of what he truly stands for in the first place. I also read some quotes attributed to him about his stand on homosexuality and islam and I must say I was truly disappointed. My advice to all including my humble self is to adhere to Christs teaching in Matt. 10v16 (..Be shrewd as the snakes and innocent as the dove).</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, IC. His blog is too deep in the outback of the internet to be an effective vehicle for waging a hate campaign against Jakes; so that can&#039;t be the reason. 

He sounds sincere, but as long as his story is the only one like that out there, he remains a solitary witness. He will need others with similar experiences to out Jakes before the reading public is convinced that he is a practicing homosexual predator. 

The other problem Youngblood opened up for himself was that he did not state that he repented completely of his many adulteries. He should make that clear. Otherwise, it could be seen as a case of accusing another with the same &quot;beam in his own eye.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, IC. His blog is too deep in the outback of the internet to be an effective vehicle for waging a hate campaign against Jakes; so that can&#8217;t be the reason. </p>
<p>He sounds sincere, but as long as his story is the only one like that out there, he remains a solitary witness. He will need others with similar experiences to out Jakes before the reading public is convinced that he is a practicing homosexual predator. </p>
<p>The other problem Youngblood opened up for himself was that he did not state that he repented completely of his many adulteries. He should make that clear. Otherwise, it could be seen as a case of accusing another with the same &#8220;beam in his own eye.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/08/29/td-jakes-is-being-exposed-as-a-homosexual/comment-page-1/#comment-11182</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I&#039;ve ever done it :) , but if I were trying to extort money from someone and I decided to just say something in the public to get at them.  I would not do it on a seldom viewed Wordpress.com freebie blog.  At the very least I&#039;d be hounding media near Jakes&#039; home, till I got a reporter to put me on TV with the big spot lights and cameras.  And I&#039;d have already done at least one &quot;press conference&quot; to build up the hype in the media.  And I&#039;d claim some sort of ongoing mental distress, with a lawsuit filed for damages, so I could try and convince a jury to give me the money I could not get via extortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I&#8217;ve ever done it <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  , but if I were trying to extort money from someone and I decided to just say something in the public to get at them.  I would not do it on a seldom viewed Wordpress.com freebie blog.  At the very least I&#8217;d be hounding media near Jakes&#8217; home, till I got a reporter to put me on TV with the big spot lights and cameras.  And I&#8217;d have already done at least one &#8220;press conference&#8221; to build up the hype in the media.  And I&#8217;d claim some sort of ongoing mental distress, with a lawsuit filed for damages, so I could try and convince a jury to give me the money I could not get via extortion.</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Russ Reese: Your logic is seriously flawed. If Mr Youngblood wanted hush money, he would not have written what he did, but rather would have &lt;i&gt;threatened&lt;/i&gt; to write it, unless he was paid to keep it quiet. That is why it is called &quot;hush money.&quot; For, once it is written, the blackmailer loses his advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Russ Reese: Your logic is seriously flawed. If Mr Youngblood wanted hush money, he would not have written what he did, but rather would have <i>threatened</i> to write it, unless he was paid to keep it quiet. That is why it is called &#8220;hush money.&#8221; For, once it is written, the blackmailer loses his advantage.</p>
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