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	<title>Comments on: Not The Actions of a Committed Christian.  US Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama, Junior Prays at Idolized Western Wall, With Deniers of Jesus&#8217; Lordship.</title>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/30/obama-at-western-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-10948</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ken, please see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/03/john-sidney-mccain-to-mary-idol/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US Presidential Candidate John Sidney McCain III, Visits Mary Idol in Mexico.&lt;/a&gt;  Some of your comment on the matter would go well there.  I find that picture in the article you linked to as something interesting.  McCain has a very big smile on his face while engaging in such mess.

You may also want to check out: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/01/idoalatry-of-mccain-and-obama/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Idolatry of John Sidney McCain III and Barack Hussein Obama, Junior.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ken, please see <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/03/john-sidney-mccain-to-mary-idol/" rel="nofollow">US Presidential Candidate John Sidney McCain III, Visits Mary Idol in Mexico.</a>  Some of your comment on the matter would go well there.  I find that picture in the article you linked to as something interesting.  McCain has a very big smile on his face while engaging in such mess.</p>
<p>You may also want to check out: <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/01/idoalatry-of-mccain-and-obama/" rel="nofollow">The Idolatry of John Sidney McCain III and Barack Hussein Obama, Junior.</a></p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/30/obama-at-western-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-10946</link>
		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The supposed Baptist (or is it Episcopal, election years are always great chances to change your religion) John McCain prostrated his remaining dignity to similar shenanigans.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0708/McCain_blessed_at_famous_Basilica.html

It is bad enough that leading politicians pander on the issues, but adopting religious customs flippantly is an insult when you claim to be principled and concerned about &quot;values&quot; (something both candidates are emphasizing).

McCain&#039;s trip to the Basilica is more than just simple ecumenicism btw. He is not simply meeting with Catholics or visitng for a Sunday mass. He chose that Basilica for its specific importance to latino Roman Catholics. Anyone seeking to learn Mexican culture should know the legend of the Virgin of Guadalupe. In stories she is depicted as essentially a spirit-deity, able to grant wishes and miracles without even the pretense of respect for God. It is naked idolatry and a clear testament against the Catholic church and John McCain for also seeking the approval of this false god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The supposed Baptist (or is it Episcopal, election years are always great chances to change your religion) John McCain prostrated his remaining dignity to similar shenanigans.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0708/McCain_blessed_at_famous_Basilica.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0708/McCain_blessed_at_famous_Basilica.html</a></p>
<p>It is bad enough that leading politicians pander on the issues, but adopting religious customs flippantly is an insult when you claim to be principled and concerned about &#8220;values&#8221; (something both candidates are emphasizing).</p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s trip to the Basilica is more than just simple ecumenicism btw. He is not simply meeting with Catholics or visitng for a Sunday mass. He chose that Basilica for its specific importance to latino Roman Catholics. Anyone seeking to learn Mexican culture should know the legend of the Virgin of Guadalupe. In stories she is depicted as essentially a spirit-deity, able to grant wishes and miracles without even the pretense of respect for God. It is naked idolatry and a clear testament against the Catholic church and John McCain for also seeking the approval of this false god.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/30/obama-at-western-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-10945</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If we had to vote TODAY, WE would not Vote for EITHER ONE!&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;I’m with you brother, I’m not voting for either of them.&lt;/i&gt;

Ditto! My wife and I will not be voting this presidential election cycle. We realized that with every election, WE were the ones doing the adjusting (read: compromise) on our faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If we had to vote TODAY, WE would not Vote for EITHER ONE!</i></p>
<p><i>I’m with you brother, I’m not voting for either of them.</i></p>
<p>Ditto! My wife and I will not be voting this presidential election cycle. We realized that with every election, WE were the ones doing the adjusting (read: compromise) on our faith.</p>
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		<title>By: DragonLady</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/30/obama-at-western-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-10941</link>
		<dc:creator>DragonLady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I am not alone in seeing praying at the wall for what it is - idolotry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I am not alone in seeing praying at the wall for what it is &#8211; idolotry.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/30/obama-at-western-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-10935</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, that quote he made about people getting to Heaven while forsaking Christ was when I put up the post &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/30/obama_not_christian/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Honestly is Not a Christian.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnecoleman.org/Obama%20Saved.mp3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pastor John Coleman also has some words regarding the matter.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, that quote he made about people getting to Heaven while forsaking Christ was when I put up the post <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/30/obama_not_christian/" rel="nofollow">Why Presidential Candidate Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Honestly is Not a Christian.</a></p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.johnecoleman.org/Obama%20Saved.mp3" rel="nofollow">Pastor John Coleman also has some words regarding the matter.</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Christocentric</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/30/obama-at-western-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-10934</link>
		<dc:creator>Christocentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother IC, this is pretty consistent to what he told folks in North Carolina back in March of this year, that anyone can be children of God. 

He was quoted saying that although he believes Christ died for his sins, those who reject that teaching can also be children of God. He told the audience that he believes he &quot;can have everlasting life&quot; because Jesus Christ died for his sins. But he then told a questioner that he believes Jews and Muslims who live moral lives are just as much &quot;children of God&quot; as he is. You can see that in an article along with audio on Obama on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=73553&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;onenewsnow.com&lt;/a&gt;
The man is definitely not a Christian if he doesn&#039;t understand what salvation is all about! How insulting was that seeing him praying on the Jewish wall!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother IC, this is pretty consistent to what he told folks in North Carolina back in March of this year, that anyone can be children of God. </p>
<p>He was quoted saying that although he believes Christ died for his sins, those who reject that teaching can also be children of God. He told the audience that he believes he &#8220;can have everlasting life&#8221; because Jesus Christ died for his sins. But he then told a questioner that he believes Jews and Muslims who live moral lives are just as much &#8220;children of God&#8221; as he is. You can see that in an article along with audio on Obama on <a href="http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=73553" rel="nofollow">onenewsnow.com</a><br />
The man is definitely not a Christian if he doesn&#8217;t understand what salvation is all about! How insulting was that seeing him praying on the Jewish wall!</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/30/obama-at-western-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-10931</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you brother, I&#039;m not voting for either of them.

Me being originally from the Baltimore area, I remember when I first registered to vote.  It was on or around my 18th birthday, outside of a super market, where the NAACP was holding a voting sign-up drive :lol: .  And I&#039;m a life long Independent.  Obviously me saying I didn&#039;t want to register with a party was not the desired response, one could tell by their faces, although they didn&#039;t violate any laws, they didn&#039;t seek to pressure me more.  And yea I was denied to ability to vote in primaries, same with when I moved to PA.  Not until I lived in GA and TN could I vote in primaries.  GA is totally open and TN, well I&#039;ll just let you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/08/04/tn_primary/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read here how they do it.&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;(I had to endure some under educated poll workers, who didn&#039;t know how to properly handle a case were some general election races were held on the same day as party primaries.  But here in TN you&#039;re not locked in as MD and can vote in any primary without declaring anything before election day [problem is what they make you do on election day].  Still it&#039;s not like the method I like in GA, I like GA&#039;s totally open primaries best.  In terms of actions, both GA and TN are practically the same, but not exactly.)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you brother, I&#8217;m not voting for either of them.</p>
<p>Me being originally from the Baltimore area, I remember when I first registered to vote.  It was on or around my 18th birthday, outside of a super market, where the NAACP was holding a voting sign-up drive <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  .  And I&#8217;m a life long Independent.  Obviously me saying I didn&#8217;t want to register with a party was not the desired response, one could tell by their faces, although they didn&#8217;t violate any laws, they didn&#8217;t seek to pressure me more.  And yea I was denied to ability to vote in primaries, same with when I moved to PA.  Not until I lived in GA and TN could I vote in primaries.  GA is totally open and TN, well I&#8217;ll just let you <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/08/04/tn_primary/" rel="nofollow">read here how they do it.</a>  <em>(I had to endure some under educated poll workers, who didn&#8217;t know how to properly handle a case were some general election races were held on the same day as party primaries.  But here in TN you&#8217;re not locked in as MD and can vote in any primary without declaring anything before election day [problem is what they make you do on election day].  Still it&#8217;s not like the method I like in GA, I like GA&#8217;s totally open primaries best.  In terms of actions, both GA and TN are practically the same, but not exactly.)</em></p>
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		<title>By: EnochWalked</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/30/obama-at-western-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-10930</link>
		<dc:creator>EnochWalked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Praise the LORD Brother IC!

When my wife and I bought our 1st home exactly 5 years ago tomorrow, when we settled in, we went to the MVA to get MD Driver&#039;s licences and we were given the opportunity to register to vote in our precinct and districts.  Maryland is overwhelming Democratic!  My spirit would not let me register as a Democrat or a Republican.  I shared this with my wife.  We both were in agreement to register as Independents.  By doing this, we were completely denied the right to vote in any democratic or republican primaries, only in main or general elections.  I argued with the voting board that my civil rights were being DENIED!  They said they did not want Democrats voting for the weaker Republican and vice versa--I said the way to solve, that is citizens have to ID themselves and say they are present to vote--A person cannot present themselves more than once in a general election and vote again--same thing goes with the primaries--Of course the Democratic pollster did not want to hear my argument!  

Well anyway, my wife and I are SPLIT right down the middle between Obama and McCain.  If we had to vote TODAY, WE would not Vote for EITHER ONE!  No born again spirit filled Christian should even be considering voting for either one of them based on their statements and stands on CORE issues!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praise the LORD Brother IC!</p>
<p>When my wife and I bought our 1st home exactly 5 years ago tomorrow, when we settled in, we went to the MVA to get MD Driver&#8217;s licences and we were given the opportunity to register to vote in our precinct and districts.  Maryland is overwhelming Democratic!  My spirit would not let me register as a Democrat or a Republican.  I shared this with my wife.  We both were in agreement to register as Independents.  By doing this, we were completely denied the right to vote in any democratic or republican primaries, only in main or general elections.  I argued with the voting board that my civil rights were being DENIED!  They said they did not want Democrats voting for the weaker Republican and vice versa&#8211;I said the way to solve, that is citizens have to ID themselves and say they are present to vote&#8211;A person cannot present themselves more than once in a general election and vote again&#8211;same thing goes with the primaries&#8211;Of course the Democratic pollster did not want to hear my argument!  </p>
<p>Well anyway, my wife and I are SPLIT right down the middle between Obama and McCain.  If we had to vote TODAY, WE would not Vote for EITHER ONE!  No born again spirit filled Christian should even be considering voting for either one of them based on their statements and stands on CORE issues!</p>
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