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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/02/video-of-todd-bentley-assaulting-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-10811</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bethany123,

Nobody is replying in favor of Todd, because most of your ilk already know better than the come here promoting that heretic!

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He has given financial records and the only money he is receiving is from his home church in Canada.
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WRONG!  He has NOT shown full financial records of the money he conned people out of in Lakeland, Florida.  But bethany123, if you&#039;re right, show us the records, because every major media outlet that requested them never received full financial disclosure.

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And as for the medical proof of what God is doing through Todd and many others, do your research. There are medical verifications out there if you care to take the time and look.
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Actually bethany123, it is YOU who need to do research.  We here already know the only supposed medical records shown could never be fully verified and NOBODY fully followed up with was healed, nobody.  No reputable source could confirm a single one!  So bethany123, you tell me the name of a doctor to call regarding one of their former patients and I&#039;ll check into any name you claim.

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And actually, they are releasing such things to the media.
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Oh, you mean like the &quot;media packet&quot; given to ABC News?  The one they found was a packet of junk?

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I’m not saying that there aren’t people faking things….but look at the smile on the guys face….after Todd hits him, the pain starts to go away…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uh bethany123, there has been a follow-up interview with that man and &lt;b&gt;HE STILL HAS CANCER TODAY, WEEKS LATER HE STILL HAS CANCER!&lt;/b&gt;  He went to Lankeland, FL with cancer and left with cancer.

Rather sick of you to even defend what Bentley did to that man.

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In the Bible, Jesus spits in the dirt and puts it on a guys eyes….although, I’m sure if God asked someone to do that today, you would have a problem with it because….eww…the guy might catch something&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And in the Bible, when did Jesus drop a knee in a man&#039;s gut?

And nobody blind that went to see Todd Bentley can say they once were totally blind but now they see clearly.  But if you know of someone, tell me the name of their doctor please.

As for Bentley&#039;s looks, he looks as dishonorable as he is.

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Jesus was friends with thieves and whores if I’ve read my bible correctly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And which person claiming to talk with a female angel was Jesus friends with?  What witch doctor was Jesus friends with?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/15/todd-bentley-no-real-healings/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Todd Bentley, No Real Healings and Being Exposed by ABCNews Causes Him to Take a Break!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bethany123,</p>
<p>Nobody is replying in favor of Todd, because most of your ilk already know better than the come here promoting that heretic!</p>
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He has given financial records and the only money he is receiving is from his home church in Canada.
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<p>WRONG!  He has NOT shown full financial records of the money he conned people out of in Lakeland, Florida.  But bethany123, if you&#8217;re right, show us the records, because every major media outlet that requested them never received full financial disclosure.</p>
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And as for the medical proof of what God is doing through Todd and many others, do your research. There are medical verifications out there if you care to take the time and look.
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<p>Actually bethany123, it is YOU who need to do research.  We here already know the only supposed medical records shown could never be fully verified and NOBODY fully followed up with was healed, nobody.  No reputable source could confirm a single one!  So bethany123, you tell me the name of a doctor to call regarding one of their former patients and I&#8217;ll check into any name you claim.</p>
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And actually, they are releasing such things to the media.
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<p>Oh, you mean like the &#8220;media packet&#8221; given to ABC News?  The one they found was a packet of junk?</p>
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I’m not saying that there aren’t people faking things….but look at the smile on the guys face….after Todd hits him, the pain starts to go away…</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh bethany123, there has been a follow-up interview with that man and <b>HE STILL HAS CANCER TODAY, WEEKS LATER HE STILL HAS CANCER!</b>  He went to Lankeland, FL with cancer and left with cancer.</p>
<p>Rather sick of you to even defend what Bentley did to that man.</p>
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In the Bible, Jesus spits in the dirt and puts it on a guys eyes….although, I’m sure if God asked someone to do that today, you would have a problem with it because….eww…the guy might catch something</p></blockquote>
<p>And in the Bible, when did Jesus drop a knee in a man&#8217;s gut?</p>
<p>And nobody blind that went to see Todd Bentley can say they once were totally blind but now they see clearly.  But if you know of someone, tell me the name of their doctor please.</p>
<p>As for Bentley&#8217;s looks, he looks as dishonorable as he is.</p>
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Jesus was friends with thieves and whores if I’ve read my bible correctly.</p></blockquote>
<p>And which person claiming to talk with a female angel was Jesus friends with?  What witch doctor was Jesus friends with?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/15/todd-bentley-no-real-healings/" rel="nofollow">Todd Bentley, No Real Healings and Being Exposed by ABCNews Causes Him to Take a Break!</a></p>
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		<title>By: bethany123</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/02/video-of-todd-bentley-assaulting-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-10810</link>
		<dc:creator>bethany123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really shocked to see no one replying in favor of Todd.  He has given financial records and the only money he is receiving is from his home church in Canada.  The money that is collected from the church in florida goes to such places such as, for one example, the problems in Africa.  And as for the medical proof of what God is doing through  Todd and many others, do your research.  There are medical verifications out there if you care to take the time and look.  And actually, they are releasing such things to the media.  After that, it is up to the media to pass them along.  I&#039;m not saying that there aren&#039;t people faking things....but look at the smile on the guys face....after Todd hits him, the pain starts to go away....  In the Bible, Jesus spits in the dirt and puts it on a guys eyes....although, I&#039;m sure if God asked someone to do that today, you would have a problem with it because....eww...the guy might catch something...  and as for the way he looks....if he wanted to fit in, he would not look like that.  That look is still not accepted by many many people today.  but, we forget, it isn&#039;t about how a person looks.  Jesus was friends with thieves and whores if I&#039;ve read my bible correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really shocked to see no one replying in favor of Todd.  He has given financial records and the only money he is receiving is from his home church in Canada.  The money that is collected from the church in florida goes to such places such as, for one example, the problems in Africa.  And as for the medical proof of what God is doing through  Todd and many others, do your research.  There are medical verifications out there if you care to take the time and look.  And actually, they are releasing such things to the media.  After that, it is up to the media to pass them along.  I&#8217;m not saying that there aren&#8217;t people faking things&#8230;.but look at the smile on the guys face&#8230;.after Todd hits him, the pain starts to go away&#8230;.  In the Bible, Jesus spits in the dirt and puts it on a guys eyes&#8230;.although, I&#8217;m sure if God asked someone to do that today, you would have a problem with it because&#8230;.eww&#8230;the guy might catch something&#8230;  and as for the way he looks&#8230;.if he wanted to fit in, he would not look like that.  That look is still not accepted by many many people today.  but, we forget, it isn&#8217;t about how a person looks.  Jesus was friends with thieves and whores if I&#8217;ve read my bible correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: rascoe1</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/02/video-of-todd-bentley-assaulting-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-10639</link>
		<dc:creator>rascoe1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God for opened eyes.  It is very humbleing.  To God be the Glory.</description>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/02/video-of-todd-bentley-assaulting-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-10637</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rascoe1

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What I cannot understand is, how can anyone not see his errors?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is the answer.

&lt;b&gt;Matthew 16:15-17 (New American Standard Bible)&lt;/b&gt;
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 15 He said to them, &quot;But who do you say that I am?&quot;

 16 Simon Peter answered, &quot;You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.&quot;

 17 And Jesus said to him, &quot;Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nobody can see any level of truth that God has not allowed them to see.  Even those who spent all that time with Christ could not deduce he was the Christ and really the Son of God of their own intellect.  Only those who the Lord wills, from the Father through Christ Jesus, by way of the Holy Spirit.

The best thing you can do is pray and continue trying to help those willing to listen.  If the Lord wills them to know the truth they will come to understand. If not, the Lord&#039;s will be done.  Some are to be deluded and we&#039;re told they would be, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20thes%202&amp;version=49&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2 Thessalonians 2&lt;/a&gt;.  Just keep doing what you can for those around you as the Lord leads. 

Obviously Todd Bentley is not the only one doing this mess and people are falling for it.  Blinded by the false god of this world regarding these false teachers.  Lord willing they might one day come to their senses.  Only the Lord can remove the delusion, as He wills.  Pray for those lost souls.  Perhaps the Lord will show them mercy as He has with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rascoe1</p>
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What I cannot understand is, how can anyone not see his errors?
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<p>This is the answer.</p>
<p><b>Matthew 16:15-17 (New American Standard Bible)</b></p>
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 15 He said to them, &#8220;But who do you say that I am?&#8221;</p>
<p> 16 Simon Peter answered, &#8220;You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.&#8221;</p>
<p> 17 And Jesus said to him, &#8220;Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Nobody can see any level of truth that God has not allowed them to see.  Even those who spent all that time with Christ could not deduce he was the Christ and really the Son of God of their own intellect.  Only those who the Lord wills, from the Father through Christ Jesus, by way of the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>The best thing you can do is pray and continue trying to help those willing to listen.  If the Lord wills them to know the truth they will come to understand. If not, the Lord&#8217;s will be done.  Some are to be deluded and we&#8217;re told they would be, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20thes%202&amp;version=49" rel="nofollow">2 Thessalonians 2</a>.  Just keep doing what you can for those around you as the Lord leads. </p>
<p>Obviously Todd Bentley is not the only one doing this mess and people are falling for it.  Blinded by the false god of this world regarding these false teachers.  Lord willing they might one day come to their senses.  Only the Lord can remove the delusion, as He wills.  Pray for those lost souls.  Perhaps the Lord will show them mercy as He has with us.</p>
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		<title>By: rascoe1</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/02/video-of-todd-bentley-assaulting-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-10635</link>
		<dc:creator>rascoe1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another lady I know said, him kicking people in the face and might be ok, because one other pimp (I forget the name she used, must be one of TBNs) thumped someone in their stomach to heal and another, put some pastors mother-in-law in a head- lock to heal her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another lady I know said, him kicking people in the face and might be ok, because one other pimp (I forget the name she used, must be one of TBNs) thumped someone in their stomach to heal and another, put some pastors mother-in-law in a head- lock to heal her.</p>
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		<title>By: rascoe1</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/02/video-of-todd-bentley-assaulting-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-10634</link>
		<dc:creator>rascoe1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IC you said, &quot;I&#039;m certain Bentley could literally shoot someone and he&#039;d have some people that would run to his defence&quot;, and you are so right.  I have been on a crusade to expose him. I asked a friend of mine if she heard of him, I am sorry that I did because she hadn&#039;t, she decided to check him out.  To my surprise, she believed what he is doing is possibly real. The fact that he was using violence on people, &quot;in the name of jesus&quot;, was pale in comparison to the supposed raising of the dead and healings that he also takes credit for.  I asked her if she know of the Jesus of the bible, Son of God, commiting any acts of violence against anyone or ever hear of the Holy Spirit telling anyone to comit acts of violence.  She said no, ...but.  The scriptures quoted, meant nothing, when compared to &quot;someone, supposidly,being raised from tne dead&quot; as a result of his ministry.  I finally asked her if she would eat a mud pie with sugar in it, she said no, but I think she still have doubts.  I encouraged the ro read the Word.  I really hope she will.
 
On the other hand, another friend of mine was really incensed by what she saw.  What I cannot understand is, how can anyone not see his errors?  How is it that someone can be committing acts of violence against others and they can see God in it?  Thats beyond my comprehension.  It is so clear that the bible is being fulfilled.

I read somewhere, that he is either delusional or a liar.  I think he is both, as well as wicked.  He said the Holy Spirit tells him to commit all these acts of violence, I think someone should direct him to Mark 4:29 - &quot;BUT HE WHO BLASHPEMES AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT NEVER HAS FORGIVNESS,BUT IS SUBJECT TO ETERNAL CONDEMNATION.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IC you said, &#8220;I&#8217;m certain Bentley could literally shoot someone and he&#8217;d have some people that would run to his defence&#8221;, and you are so right.  I have been on a crusade to expose him. I asked a friend of mine if she heard of him, I am sorry that I did because she hadn&#8217;t, she decided to check him out.  To my surprise, she believed what he is doing is possibly real. The fact that he was using violence on people, &#8220;in the name of jesus&#8221;, was pale in comparison to the supposed raising of the dead and healings that he also takes credit for.  I asked her if she know of the Jesus of the bible, Son of God, commiting any acts of violence against anyone or ever hear of the Holy Spirit telling anyone to comit acts of violence.  She said no, &#8230;but.  The scriptures quoted, meant nothing, when compared to &#8220;someone, supposidly,being raised from tne dead&#8221; as a result of his ministry.  I finally asked her if she would eat a mud pie with sugar in it, she said no, but I think she still have doubts.  I encouraged the ro read the Word.  I really hope she will.</p>
<p>On the other hand, another friend of mine was really incensed by what she saw.  What I cannot understand is, how can anyone not see his errors?  How is it that someone can be committing acts of violence against others and they can see God in it?  Thats beyond my comprehension.  It is so clear that the bible is being fulfilled.</p>
<p>I read somewhere, that he is either delusional or a liar.  I think he is both, as well as wicked.  He said the Holy Spirit tells him to commit all these acts of violence, I think someone should direct him to Mark 4:29 &#8211; &#8220;BUT HE WHO BLASHPEMES AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT NEVER HAS FORGIVNESS,BUT IS SUBJECT TO ETERNAL CONDEMNATION.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/02/video-of-todd-bentley-assaulting-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-10633</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you 2 are on to something!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you 2 are on to something!</p>
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		<title>By: speakingtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/02/video-of-todd-bentley-assaulting-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-10632</link>
		<dc:creator>speakingtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Well, IC in the above mentioned post you mentioned him being invited to black mega churches&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That was actually me, &lt;b&gt;Kyle&lt;/b&gt; - but I concur. Once other decievers see how Todd &quot;the tool of Satan&quot; Bentley has successfully packed himself to &quot;sell&quot;, they&#039;ll adopt the same posture (&lt;em&gt;hmmm...maybe that&#039;s why we see old TD sporting an ear ring these days...&lt;/em&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Well, IC in the above mentioned post you mentioned him being invited to black mega churches</i></p></blockquote>
<p>That was actually me, <b>Kyle</b> &#8211; but I concur. Once other decievers see how Todd &#8220;the tool of Satan&#8221; Bentley has successfully packed himself to &#8220;sell&#8221;, they&#8217;ll adopt the same posture (<em>hmmm&#8230;maybe that&#8217;s why we see old TD sporting an ear ring these days&#8230;</em>)</p>
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		<title>By: KyleAndrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>KyleAndrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an idea that a Pimp can seize upon.  Todd did his research well.  He looks like a typical Gen X white guy goth type of dude.  Now I&#039;m not judging him but rather saying he has a look that fits a certain group.  He is unlike the other pimps in this way and has successfully penetrated a new market.  Why is this important?  Well, IC in the above mentioned post you mentioned him being invited to black mega churches.  I can see an opportunity for a young black guy with some baggy jeans, hat slightly cocked to the side, and some phat rocks in his ears to seize upon the moment and corner his own market.  Think about it. 

Kyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an idea that a Pimp can seize upon.  Todd did his research well.  He looks like a typical Gen X white guy goth type of dude.  Now I&#8217;m not judging him but rather saying he has a look that fits a certain group.  He is unlike the other pimps in this way and has successfully penetrated a new market.  Why is this important?  Well, IC in the above mentioned post you mentioned him being invited to black mega churches.  I can see an opportunity for a young black guy with some baggy jeans, hat slightly cocked to the side, and some phat rocks in his ears to seize upon the moment and corner his own market.  Think about it. </p>
<p>Kyle</p>
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		<title>By: speakingtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/02/video-of-todd-bentley-assaulting-a-man/comment-page-1/#comment-10630</link>
		<dc:creator>speakingtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Also, how can he legally LIE when there are no valid medical reports supporting these healings–that’s called a misrepresentation and I believe that is comes under fraud.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;b&gt;EW&lt;/b&gt; - you&#039;ve got to learn to suspend all logic when speaking of the vipers and wolves who &quot;lead&quot; the church today. Bentley (just like every other degenerate lying pimp trolling the pulpit) will simply say that the folks who died &quot;didn&#039;t have any faith&quot;, and that the one&#039;s who he &quot;claimed&quot; were healed ARE healed but they just don&#039;t walk in their healing.

C&#039;mon brother, you&#039;ve heard this garbage up close with your own ears before. Also, now that Todd &quot;the tool of Satan&quot; Bentley is &lt;a href=&quot;http://imspeakingtruth.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/todd-bentley-is-demonic/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bringing in cold hard cash by the truckload&lt;/a&gt;, you&#039;ll see more &quot;mainline&quot; black mega-heretics either inviting him into their &quot;pulpits&quot; or visiting his tent to get some of the &lt;em&gt;&quot;oil and fire&quot;&lt;/em&gt; that &quot;gawd&quot; is pouring out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Also, how can he legally LIE when there are no valid medical reports supporting these healings–that’s called a misrepresentation and I believe that is comes under fraud.</i></p></blockquote>
<p><b>EW</b> &#8211; you&#8217;ve got to learn to suspend all logic when speaking of the vipers and wolves who &#8220;lead&#8221; the church today. Bentley (just like every other degenerate lying pimp trolling the pulpit) will simply say that the folks who died &#8220;didn&#8217;t have any faith&#8221;, and that the one&#8217;s who he &#8220;claimed&#8221; were healed ARE healed but they just don&#8217;t walk in their healing.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon brother, you&#8217;ve heard this garbage up close with your own ears before. Also, now that Todd &#8220;the tool of Satan&#8221; Bentley is <a href="http://imspeakingtruth.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/todd-bentley-is-demonic/" rel="nofollow">bringing in cold hard cash by the truckload</a>, you&#8217;ll see more &#8220;mainline&#8221; black mega-heretics either inviting him into their &#8220;pulpits&#8221; or visiting his tent to get some of the <em>&#8220;oil and fire&#8221;</em> that &#8220;gawd&#8221; is pouring out!</p>
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