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	<title>Comments on: A Sign of Hope.  Ringo, YouTubber Ringo4Life Proclaims the Prosperity Doctrine is a Scam!</title>
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		<title>By: truthintheselastdays</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthintheselastdays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a joy to hear that Ringo has finally seen the error of his ways and has begun to discover the truth of God&#039;s Word. Soli Deo Gloria!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joy to hear that Ringo has finally seen the error of his ways and has begun to discover the truth of God&#8217;s Word. Soli Deo Gloria!</p>
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		<title>By: Vaughn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vaughn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that we all or most of us will seek a stronger knowledge of God, and use ministries other than our own to glean that desired grasp of what God is calling for. But atleast when we grow into maturity the scales of being decieved slowly fall, as we become aware of what it is that is or isn&#039;t Biblical.

Just thank The Lord for your wake up call or sight to see the difference between sound doctrine, as compared to a hustle!

That comment about God wont hear you unless you give is resonating in my head, what about the one&#039;s that can&#039;t afford to give?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we all or most of us will seek a stronger knowledge of God, and use ministries other than our own to glean that desired grasp of what God is calling for. But atleast when we grow into maturity the scales of being decieved slowly fall, as we become aware of what it is that is or isn&#8217;t Biblical.</p>
<p>Just thank The Lord for your wake up call or sight to see the difference between sound doctrine, as compared to a hustle!</p>
<p>That comment about God wont hear you unless you give is resonating in my head, what about the one&#8217;s that can&#8217;t afford to give?</p>
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		<title>By: escapeetoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>escapeetoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the Video IC

All I can say is that God is good. I used to sow into this mess as a &quot;partner&quot;. I used to support and defend this same mess that is coming out of his mouth. When I was listening to the video I could not believe I used to subscribe to this mess! I am a former patron of &quot;Club Hustle &amp; Flow&quot; and we used to hear the same heresy. It was not until God, through the Holy Spirit, made things so uncomfortable in the club that I left. True revelation can only come from reading the bible! I can’t believe I allowed a heretic like this pimp me out of the truth! Here is my 2 cents on the Word of Faith Heresy! 

http://escapee.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/speak-those-things-the-word-of-faith-heretic-theology/

http://escapee.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/big-g-little-g/


Keep doing your thing Ringo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the Video IC</p>
<p>All I can say is that God is good. I used to sow into this mess as a &#8220;partner&#8221;. I used to support and defend this same mess that is coming out of his mouth. When I was listening to the video I could not believe I used to subscribe to this mess! I am a former patron of &#8220;Club Hustle &amp; Flow&#8221; and we used to hear the same heresy. It was not until God, through the Holy Spirit, made things so uncomfortable in the club that I left. True revelation can only come from reading the bible! I can’t believe I allowed a heretic like this pimp me out of the truth! Here is my 2 cents on the Word of Faith Heresy! </p>
<p><a href="http://escapee.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/speak-those-things-the-word-of-faith-heretic-theology/" rel="nofollow">http://escapee.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/speak-those-things-the-word-of-faith-heretic-theology/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://escapee.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/big-g-little-g/" rel="nofollow">http://escapee.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/big-g-little-g/</a></p>
<p>Keep doing your thing Ringo!</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both interviewers were hitting him with scriptures and that&#039;s the most I&#039;ve ever seen news people come at him from The Word of God.  Would have been interesting if they had called out his abusive responses, but I guess CNN will only allow them so much leverage.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ivUTS9xl8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Creflo Dollar Interview Part 1&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5CZer3tVc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Creflo Dollar Interview Part 2&lt;/a&gt;

I certainly thank the Lord for yanking me away from such heresies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both interviewers were hitting him with scriptures and that&#8217;s the most I&#8217;ve ever seen news people come at him from The Word of God.  Would have been interesting if they had called out his abusive responses, but I guess CNN will only allow them so much leverage.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ivUTS9xl8" rel="nofollow">Creflo Dollar Interview Part 1</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj5CZer3tVc" rel="nofollow">Creflo Dollar Interview Part 2</a></p>
<p>I certainly thank the Lord for yanking me away from such heresies.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Vaughn, if you saw his &lt;em&gt;golden dome (supposed church building)&lt;/em&gt; in College Park, GA, you&#039;d have an even worse taste in your mouth.

And although the town is called &quot;College Park&quot;, let&#039;s just say it&#039;s not a very affluent area and certainly not a place that needs to be giving all their money to Creflo.  But the area is ripe with people who want to make MORE MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!  It&#039;s not a &quot;poor&quot; area, but not an area you want to be walking around much late at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Vaughn, if you saw his <em>golden dome (supposed church building)</em> in College Park, GA, you&#8217;d have an even worse taste in your mouth.</p>
<p>And although the town is called &#8220;College Park&#8221;, let&#8217;s just say it&#8217;s not a very affluent area and certainly not a place that needs to be giving all their money to Creflo.  But the area is ripe with people who want to make MORE MONEY MONEY MONEY!!!  It&#8217;s not a &#8220;poor&#8221; area, but not an area you want to be walking around much late at night.</p>
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		<title>By: Vaughn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vaughn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That bodyguard’s probably wondering every Sunday why the audience doesn’t suddenly rush at CD over being so obviously scammed by him.&quot;

Wondering why and glad that they don&#039;t, the mob mentality might kick in.

This is leaving a bad taste in my mouth seeing this man having so many followers.

The blind leading the blind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That bodyguard’s probably wondering every Sunday why the audience doesn’t suddenly rush at CD over being so obviously scammed by him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wondering why and glad that they don&#8217;t, the mob mentality might kick in.</p>
<p>This is leaving a bad taste in my mouth seeing this man having so many followers.</p>
<p>The blind leading the blind!</p>
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		<title>By: Vaughn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vaughn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I caught that blatant and outright lie when he sat there with that anchorwoman, who BTW looks like she had more than a novice knowledge of The Word.

Maybe those that have been hoodwinked by those charlitans, are broken (not pocket broken) enough to seek after The True and Living God. And not those that would love to fleece you of everything you got.

Some things would surprise me if they happen, like Creflo not mentioning money in one sermon.

What a joke!, and not in a ha ha way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I caught that blatant and outright lie when he sat there with that anchorwoman, who BTW looks like she had more than a novice knowledge of The Word.</p>
<p>Maybe those that have been hoodwinked by those charlitans, are broken (not pocket broken) enough to seek after The True and Living God. And not those that would love to fleece you of everything you got.</p>
<p>Some things would surprise me if they happen, like Creflo not mentioning money in one sermon.</p>
<p>What a joke!, and not in a ha ha way.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/07/02/a-sign-of-hope-ringo-youtubber-ringo4life-proclaims-the-prosperity-doctrine-is-a-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-10642</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
How ironic for this cult leader to speak of “circles of insanity” to his deluded supporters.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really, only a couple thousand years ago Christ spoke what is noted in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&amp;chapter=13&amp;version=49&amp;context=chapter&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Matthew 13&lt;/a&gt; and explained that those hearing the Word and taking it as a means to go after cares of this world and &quot;deceitfulness of wealth&quot; are left with a word that is chocked out.  Good to know Ringo now sees it.  And the message was spoken without any parable in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20tim%206&amp;version=49&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1 Timothy 6&lt;/a&gt; as the Lord used Paul.  But still, here we are nearly thousands of years later and the same deluded cycles that were spoken against continue.  The Lord said it would happen and so it has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
How ironic for this cult leader to speak of “circles of insanity” to his deluded supporters.
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<p>Really, only a couple thousand years ago Christ spoke what is noted in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&amp;chapter=13&amp;version=49&amp;context=chapter" rel="nofollow">Matthew 13</a> and explained that those hearing the Word and taking it as a means to go after cares of this world and &#8220;deceitfulness of wealth&#8221; are left with a word that is chocked out.  Good to know Ringo now sees it.  And the message was spoken without any parable in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20tim%206&amp;version=49" rel="nofollow">1 Timothy 6</a> as the Lord used Paul.  But still, here we are nearly thousands of years later and the same deluded cycles that were spoken against continue.  The Lord said it would happen and so it has.</p>
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		<title>By: speakingtruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>speakingtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glory to God!

Even though we see more and more of the church sliding (or jumping, rather) into full throttled apostasy, occurences like this bolster my faith that those who have an ear to hear the truth will eventually respond to it - as the Lord wills.

Thanks for the encouragement today, brother - I gotta link over to this post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glory to God!</p>
<p>Even though we see more and more of the church sliding (or jumping, rather) into full throttled apostasy, occurences like this bolster my faith that those who have an ear to hear the truth will eventually respond to it &#8211; as the Lord wills.</p>
<p>Thanks for the encouragement today, brother &#8211; I gotta link over to this post!</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching Creflo for that long was painful; like listening to fingernails scratching down a blackboard. However, because it was Ringo turning and exposing CD&#039;s cheap tricks, it was worth it. 

CD talked about people being in a circle of insanity (@5:00 in the second video). How ironic for this cult leader to speak of &quot;circles of insanity&quot; to his deluded supporters.

I&#039;m glad Ringo pointed out the bodyguard in the front row with the truculent expression. It&#039;s a favorite game I play whenever I decide to watch people like Jakes. 

That bodyguard&#039;s probably wondering every Sunday why the audience doesn&#039;t suddenly rush at CD over being so obviously scammed by him.  

But, he need not worry. Nobody&#039;s going to catch on, except maybe for the occasional member here and there. The rest will defend CD more vigorously than the bodyguard would; and you don&#039;t even need to pay them like you would that guy. He may as well take a snooze during CD&#039;s outrageous Sunday pitches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching Creflo for that long was painful; like listening to fingernails scratching down a blackboard. However, because it was Ringo turning and exposing CD&#8217;s cheap tricks, it was worth it. </p>
<p>CD talked about people being in a circle of insanity (@5:00 in the second video). How ironic for this cult leader to speak of &#8220;circles of insanity&#8221; to his deluded supporters.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad Ringo pointed out the bodyguard in the front row with the truculent expression. It&#8217;s a favorite game I play whenever I decide to watch people like Jakes. </p>
<p>That bodyguard&#8217;s probably wondering every Sunday why the audience doesn&#8217;t suddenly rush at CD over being so obviously scammed by him.  </p>
<p>But, he need not worry. Nobody&#8217;s going to catch on, except maybe for the occasional member here and there. The rest will defend CD more vigorously than the bodyguard would; and you don&#8217;t even need to pay them like you would that guy. He may as well take a snooze during CD&#8217;s outrageous Sunday pitches.</p>
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