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		<title>By: NYTN</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/06/18/more-flooding-why-is-it-different-this-time/comment-page-1/#comment-11489</link>
		<dc:creator>NYTN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>healtheland, you asked about &quot;Ralph from Ben Hill&quot; (aka C. Miles).  Well he died a few years ago (I think it was in 2004 from a heart attack).  He never came all the way back from that blood clot in 2001.

As for &quot;Uncle Tom Bill&quot;, he used to call in on &quot;Open Line&quot; with Ike Newkirk on 790 The Zone in Atlanta.  That show is on Sunday&#039;s 6am to 9am.  I listen regularly and haven&#039;t heard him in a while.  He&#039;s definitely a trip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>healtheland, you asked about &#8220;Ralph from Ben Hill&#8221; (aka C. Miles).  Well he died a few years ago (I think it was in 2004 from a heart attack).  He never came all the way back from that blood clot in 2001.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;Uncle Tom Bill&#8221;, he used to call in on &#8220;Open Line&#8221; with Ike Newkirk on 790 The Zone in Atlanta.  That show is on Sunday&#8217;s 6am to 9am.  I listen regularly and haven&#8217;t heard him in a while.  He&#8217;s definitely a trip!</p>
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		<title>By: healtheland</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/06/18/more-flooding-why-is-it-different-this-time/comment-page-1/#comment-10454</link>
		<dc:creator>healtheland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rascoe1:

&quot; However that does not justify the behavior of our people.&quot;

Me? Justify sin? God forbid! I only justify Jesus Christ. Again, that was why I stated that I hated to sound like James Cone - Jeremiah Wright - Leonard Jeffries etc. No matter what your race, color, ethnicity, nationality, class, sex, etc. sin is the disease and Jesus Christ is the cure. Jesus Christ killed sin dead! Glory to Jesus Christ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rascoe1:</p>
<p>&#8221; However that does not justify the behavior of our people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Me? Justify sin? God forbid! I only justify Jesus Christ. Again, that was why I stated that I hated to sound like James Cone &#8211; Jeremiah Wright &#8211; Leonard Jeffries etc. No matter what your race, color, ethnicity, nationality, class, sex, etc. sin is the disease and Jesus Christ is the cure. Jesus Christ killed sin dead! Glory to Jesus Christ!</p>
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		<title>By: rascoe1</title>
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		<dc:creator>rascoe1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heartland, when you say &quot;it is &quot;the other side&quot; that commits crimes on a mass global scale...&quot; I agree with you.  However that does not justify the behavior of our people.  I am sure you would not justify your children misbehaving because your neighbours children are criminals.

I dont know Uncle Tom Bill, but from that you all have said, he must be a wise man.  Brooklyn, that comparison, I have never heard it put that way.  That is food for thought.

IC, I read that speech of Fredrick Douglass, thank you so much.  I was quoting him last night,every chance I got(smile).  If he and all of our ancestors, who fought and died for the rights that we no enjoy, had the opportunity to see where we are now as a race they would be so disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heartland, when you say &#8220;it is &#8220;the other side&#8221; that commits crimes on a mass global scale&#8230;&#8221; I agree with you.  However that does not justify the behavior of our people.  I am sure you would not justify your children misbehaving because your neighbours children are criminals.</p>
<p>I dont know Uncle Tom Bill, but from that you all have said, he must be a wise man.  Brooklyn, that comparison, I have never heard it put that way.  That is food for thought.</p>
<p>IC, I read that speech of Fredrick Douglass, thank you so much.  I was quoting him last night,every chance I got(smile).  If he and all of our ancestors, who fought and died for the rights that we no enjoy, had the opportunity to see where we are now as a race they would be so disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: rascoe1</title>
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		<dc:creator>rascoe1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brooklyn, it frustrates me when I hear the words &quot;society on a whole expects so little of us&quot;.  I cannot stand it.  What it says to me, is that the black man does not have a mind of his own.  Because society say I am &quot;black and a nigga&quot;, I have to be that.  I DONT THINK SO.  Until the black man takes responsibility for his actions and stop casting blames, the cycle will continue.  God is not partial, we were all created equally.  

I get the Jamaican radio station online, and one talk show host, Wilmot Perkins, uses is the &quot;field slave and the house slave&quot;, bit to justify some of the behavior in Ja. the.  Please do not get me wrong, I know there are still obsticles, but OUR ATTITUDE HAS TO CHANGE.  You know Brooklyn, the only excuse I can readily accept to justify foolishness is the FALLEN STATE OF MAN.  I suppose my brother, that the few who &quot;gets it&quot; has the task of continually speaking out.  If all we can do is raise our children in the  fear of the Lord, they will get it.  The colour of our skin as so little to do with it, that is something that we cannot change, our attitudes we can change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooklyn, it frustrates me when I hear the words &#8220;society on a whole expects so little of us&#8221;.  I cannot stand it.  What it says to me, is that the black man does not have a mind of his own.  Because society say I am &#8220;black and a nigga&#8221;, I have to be that.  I DONT THINK SO.  Until the black man takes responsibility for his actions and stop casting blames, the cycle will continue.  God is not partial, we were all created equally.  </p>
<p>I get the Jamaican radio station online, and one talk show host, Wilmot Perkins, uses is the &#8220;field slave and the house slave&#8221;, bit to justify some of the behavior in Ja. the.  Please do not get me wrong, I know there are still obsticles, but OUR ATTITUDE HAS TO CHANGE.  You know Brooklyn, the only excuse I can readily accept to justify foolishness is the FALLEN STATE OF MAN.  I suppose my brother, that the few who &#8220;gets it&#8221; has the task of continually speaking out.  If all we can do is raise our children in the  fear of the Lord, they will get it.  The colour of our skin as so little to do with it, that is something that we cannot change, our attitudes we can change.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea then we all met at the same spot and I guess we didn&#039;t know you where there :) .

I was on Rob&#039;s board as &quot;D-Man&quot;.  After enough Liberals came in and Rob moved to DC and started getting more Liberal I checked out of there.

Brooklyn used to use the handle there &quot;Cabal&quot; I think.

Ron_B who comments here sometimes was Ron_B :) . 

You should have made yourself a little more known.  We all used to hang out and stuff and you could have joined us.  We never got Uncle Tom Bill out though, he likes to stay home :D .

I don&#039;t know about what happened to Ralph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea then we all met at the same spot and I guess we didn&#8217;t know you where there <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>I was on Rob&#8217;s board as &#8220;D-Man&#8221;.  After enough Liberals came in and Rob moved to DC and started getting more Liberal I checked out of there.</p>
<p>Brooklyn used to use the handle there &#8220;Cabal&#8221; I think.</p>
<p>Ron_B who comments here sometimes was Ron_B <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  . </p>
<p>You should have made yourself a little more known.  We all used to hang out and stuff and you could have joined us.  We never got Uncle Tom Bill out though, he likes to stay home <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about what happened to Ralph.</p>
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		<title>By: healtheland</title>
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		<dc:creator>healtheland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IC:

Please don&#039;t tell me that you were on the Robert Redding, the Redding News Review http://reddingnewsreview.com/ board. Because brother, I was on there too. With a fake name. I was vigorously defending George W. Bush and the Republican Party. Whatever happened to Ralph From Ben Hill? Did he survive the stroke?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IC:</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t tell me that you were on the Robert Redding, the Redding News Review <a href="http://reddingnewsreview.com/" rel="nofollow">http://reddingnewsreview.com/</a> board. Because brother, I was on there too. With a fake name. I was vigorously defending George W. Bush and the Republican Party. Whatever happened to Ralph From Ben Hill? Did he survive the stroke?</p>
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		<title>By: brooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to meet you as well rascoe1. My wife who was born in Jamaica says the same thing. She is really disappointed in the current behavior of Jamaicans and doesn&#039;t know how they lost their way.

As IC stated self-destructive behavior stems from the fallen nature of man and is inherent in all ethnic groups. I think it is exaggerated in black people because society on the whole expects so little of us. Within the black community bad behavior is excused or even encouraged. This epidemic of low moral standards and poor decision making used to be isolated within a subculture of the black community. Now with the advent of mass media (music and entertainment channels) those values and that negative image goes around the world at the speed of light. It has infected some of the most remote areas of the world. Jamaicans used to value hard work, education and religion just like American blacks did. Now we worship our skin color (which is defined by politics) above all else. 

When I was a kid my parents taught me that welfare and food stamps were an embarrassment to the family. Home ownership and an education are escapes from poverty. That mentality is gone. Jamaicans who come to the US now are more concerned with racism and supporting Socialism more than anything else.

That&#039;s been my first hand observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to meet you as well rascoe1. My wife who was born in Jamaica says the same thing. She is really disappointed in the current behavior of Jamaicans and doesn&#8217;t know how they lost their way.</p>
<p>As IC stated self-destructive behavior stems from the fallen nature of man and is inherent in all ethnic groups. I think it is exaggerated in black people because society on the whole expects so little of us. Within the black community bad behavior is excused or even encouraged. This epidemic of low moral standards and poor decision making used to be isolated within a subculture of the black community. Now with the advent of mass media (music and entertainment channels) those values and that negative image goes around the world at the speed of light. It has infected some of the most remote areas of the world. Jamaicans used to value hard work, education and religion just like American blacks did. Now we worship our skin color (which is defined by politics) above all else. </p>
<p>When I was a kid my parents taught me that welfare and food stamps were an embarrassment to the family. Home ownership and an education are escapes from poverty. That mentality is gone. Jamaicans who come to the US now are more concerned with racism and supporting Socialism more than anything else.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s been my first hand observation.</p>
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		<title>By: brooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uncle Tom is da Bomb. :)

I first encountered Uncle Tom Bill years ago on a message board and he was just nailing people left and right. He couldn&#039;t care less about what people thought of him he was totally relentless. He has the widsom of years and would laugh at black youngsters who would cry about racism when he seen and lived through historic levels of bigotry and hate. And he hasn&#039;t changed one bit...good for him.

I remember one of his topics was when he compared black men to wolves and black males to domesticated dogs. He said when we were wolves we were on our own and took care of our offspring and did whatever it took to provide food and shelter for the family. You reproduced only what you were able to feed.

But since the 1970&#039;s we black men have become like domesticated dogs. Unable to provide for ourselves, mate whenever we want and leave the offspring to the female to take care of. 

Overall it was a very interesting observation but that&#039;s what UTB does so well.

I apologize for the threadjack...carry on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle Tom is da Bomb. <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I first encountered Uncle Tom Bill years ago on a message board and he was just nailing people left and right. He couldn&#8217;t care less about what people thought of him he was totally relentless. He has the widsom of years and would laugh at black youngsters who would cry about racism when he seen and lived through historic levels of bigotry and hate. And he hasn&#8217;t changed one bit&#8230;good for him.</p>
<p>I remember one of his topics was when he compared black men to wolves and black males to domesticated dogs. He said when we were wolves we were on our own and took care of our offspring and did whatever it took to provide food and shelter for the family. You reproduced only what you were able to feed.</p>
<p>But since the 1970&#8217;s we black men have become like domesticated dogs. Unable to provide for ourselves, mate whenever we want and leave the offspring to the female to take care of. </p>
<p>Overall it was a very interesting observation but that&#8217;s what UTB does so well.</p>
<p>I apologize for the threadjack&#8230;carry on.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Now sir, you ARE NOT speaking of the same Uncle Tom Bill that is originally from south Georgia that used to be a regular caller on WAOK Radio in Atlanta a few years back? If so, then wow, because that fellow was extremely old back then, so it is a blessing that he is even still alive, let alone still active in getting and disseminating stuff like this!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes I am talking about the very one and the same man.  A very good friend of mine, that I talk with online several times a week if not daily.

Yes the Lord has blessed him with years and when it comes to computers I ask him questions although I&#039;m the guy with 2 degrees in Computer Science!

I met him back when there was a show on WAOK-AM that had an online message board.  I don&#039;t know if I heard of him first via the message board or on the radio program, but either way I must say our meeting has proven a good thing.

Although bloggers like La Shawn Barber caught my interests in blogging, it was Uncle Tom Bill who actually said to me:
 
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You need to start a blog.
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And said it several times till I did it.

And I regularly use his line &quot;Farra-the-Con&quot; to describe false prophet Louis Farrakhan.  A few names in radio use phrases they got from him calling their shows. &lt;em&gt;(Although some fail to ever give him proper attribution.)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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Now sir, you ARE NOT speaking of the same Uncle Tom Bill that is originally from south Georgia that used to be a regular caller on WAOK Radio in Atlanta a few years back? If so, then wow, because that fellow was extremely old back then, so it is a blessing that he is even still alive, let alone still active in getting and disseminating stuff like this!
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<p>Yes I am talking about the very one and the same man.  A very good friend of mine, that I talk with online several times a week if not daily.</p>
<p>Yes the Lord has blessed him with years and when it comes to computers I ask him questions although I&#8217;m the guy with 2 degrees in Computer Science!</p>
<p>I met him back when there was a show on WAOK-AM that had an online message board.  I don&#8217;t know if I heard of him first via the message board or on the radio program, but either way I must say our meeting has proven a good thing.</p>
<p>Although bloggers like La Shawn Barber caught my interests in blogging, it was Uncle Tom Bill who actually said to me:</p>
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You need to start a blog.
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<p>And said it several times till I did it.</p>
<p>And I regularly use his line &#8220;Farra-the-Con&#8221; to describe false prophet Louis Farrakhan.  A few names in radio use phrases they got from him calling their shows. <em>(Although some fail to ever give him proper attribution.)</em></p>
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		<title>By: healtheland</title>
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		<dc:creator>healtheland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now sir, you ARE NOT speaking of the same Uncle Tom Bill that is originally from south Georgia that used to be a regular caller on WAOK Radio in Atlanta a few years back? If so, then wow, because that fellow was extremely old back then, so it is a blessing that he is even still alive, let alone still active in getting and disseminating stuff like this!

&quot;Well it’s a sin nature in all men that manifest in various ways.&quot;

Yep, I hate to sound racist, but where in America black folks tend to do the street crime/welfare/illegitimacy thing, it is &quot;the other side&quot; that commits crimes on a mass, global scale with things like weapons of mass destruction, environmental pollution, manipulation of trade and financial markets, etc. I hate to sound like I am regurgitating the James Cone - Jeremiah Wright - Leonard Jeffries nonsense that I picked up in my fake wannabe radical days, but it is still true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now sir, you ARE NOT speaking of the same Uncle Tom Bill that is originally from south Georgia that used to be a regular caller on WAOK Radio in Atlanta a few years back? If so, then wow, because that fellow was extremely old back then, so it is a blessing that he is even still alive, let alone still active in getting and disseminating stuff like this!</p>
<p>&#8220;Well it’s a sin nature in all men that manifest in various ways.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, I hate to sound racist, but where in America black folks tend to do the street crime/welfare/illegitimacy thing, it is &#8220;the other side&#8221; that commits crimes on a mass, global scale with things like weapons of mass destruction, environmental pollution, manipulation of trade and financial markets, etc. I hate to sound like I am regurgitating the James Cone &#8211; Jeremiah Wright &#8211; Leonard Jeffries nonsense that I picked up in my fake wannabe radical days, but it is still true!</p>
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