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May 20, 2008

Todd Bentley Says: Jesus Has Brown Eyes Like Bambi

by @ 4:14 pm. Filed under Nuts on Parade

Now if I even have to tell you that ANYBODY rolling with the NEW AGE WITCH named Patricia King is false, you don’t know what false is.



Jesus Christ Himself wants to visit you!

Todd Bentley is LYING. NOBODY who REALLY had a vision of Jesus once He was again in His full glory saw Him as a plain natural man APART from His glory. Bentley is having inflated visions of his fleshly mind or worse, Colossians 2:18-19.

Avoid Todd Bentley.

OK, yet another false teacher claiming he knows what Jesus looks like in human flesh 🙄 . And long brownish black curly locks of hair too. Just because Todd Bentley has made his outward appearance one that is abnormal with all his fresh tattoos and face pinning, does not mean Jesus Christ has hair that is dishonorable.

1 Corinthians 11:14 (New American Standard Bible)

14 Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him,

Todd Bentley obviously has a false christ of dishonor.

J. Lee Grady of Charisma Magazine has some interesting thoughts about a FRESH scam Todd Bentley is running down in Lakeland Florida. Like the Azusa incident, this should not be called a “revival”, but rather an INCIDENT. Another occurrence of falsified manifestations of the Holy Spirit! Right on par with the Toronto Airport madness.

Honest Questions About the Lakeland Revival

I support any holy outbreak of revival fervor. But let?s be careful to guard ourselves from pride and error.

But I would be dishonest if I told you that I wholeheartedly embraced what I saw in Lakeland. Something disturbed me, but I kept my mouth shut for three weeks while I prayed, got counsel from respected ministry leaders and searched my heart to make sure I was not harboring a religious spirit. The last thing we need today is more mean-spirited heresy hunters blasting other Christians.

But I would be dishonest if I told you that I wholeheartedly embraced what I saw in Lakeland. Something disturbed me, but I kept my mouth shut for three weeks while I prayed, got counsel from respected ministry leaders and searched my heart to make sure I was not harboring a religious spirit. The last thing we need today is more mean-spirited heresy hunters blasting other Christians.

I am not a heresy hunter, and I support what is happening in Lakeland because I know God uses imperfect people (like me and you) to reach others for Jesus. At the same time, I believe my questions are honest and my concerns are real.

My motive is not to criticize Bentley or the pastor who is sponsoring these meetings, Stephen Strader.

But as the noise from Lakeland grows louder and its influence spreads, I?m issuing some words of warning that apply to all of us, not just the folks in Lakeland. I hope everyone understands that these cautions are offered in love:

Yet I fear another message is also being preached subtly in Lakeland?a message that cult-watchers would describe as a spiritual counterfeit. Bentley is one of several charismatic ministers who have emphasized angels in the last several years. He has taught about angels who bring financial breakthroughs or revelations, and he sometimes refers to an angel named Emma who supposedly played a role in initiating a prophetic movement in Kansas City in the 1980s. Bentley describes Emma as a woman in a flowing white dress who floats a few feet off the floor.

All of us who believe the Bible know that angels are real, and that they work on our behalf to protect us and minister to us. But the apostle Paul, who had encounters with angels himself, issued stern warnings to the Corinthians, the Galatians and the Colossians about angels who preach another gospel or that demand attention. In Colossae, believers were so enamored with angels they had seen in visions that they became ?inflated without cause? by spiritual pride (Col. 2:18, NASB). Paul was adamant that preoccupation with angels can lead to serious deception.

We need to tread carefully here! We have no business teaching God?s people to commune with angels or to seek revelations from them. And if any revival movement?no matter how exciting or passionate?mixes the gospel of Jesus with this strange fire, the results could be devastating. We need to remember that Mormonism was born out of one man?s encounter with a dark angel who claimed to speak for God.

Mr. Grady tries to say this with as soft a hammer as he can and he really needs to harden it up a bit. Never will you find a FEMALE angel in the Bible! Not in name, description or the form of language they use, like God it is always a MALE TONE used. If seen as a human it is ALWAYS A MALE. I didn’t make this up, the Bible was here before I was born. And when you understand that men are to be in church leadership and head of their at home household, 1 Timothy 3. And how this maintains a consistency that is throughout scripture, Ephesians 5. You don’t fall for anyone claiming to take instruction from a female angel. For crying out loud, even cult founder Joseph Smith, Junior got the gender right when speaking of a false angel of light.

Grady attempts to justify the FALSE “slain in the Spirit” nonsense in saying:


When the Holy Spirit?s power comes on people they may feel weak or even fall. The Spirit?s power can also cause people to tremble, shake, laugh or cry. Such manifestations are biblical and we should leave room for them.

Uh, no, the Holy Spirit never causes believers to fall backwards, that is NOT in the Bible. We don’t have biblical evidence of the Holy Spirit falling on believers resulting in them breaking out in laughter either.

But Grady does see there is a problem.


The apostle Paul had to deal with outrageous charismatic manifestations in the Corinthian church. People were acting like raving lunatics?and turning the church in to a free-for-all of unbridled ecstatic behavior. Paul called for discipline and order, and he reminded early Christians that ?the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets? (1 Cor. 14:32). In other words, Paul was saying that no one under the influence of the Holy Spirit should act out of control.

In many recent charismatic revivals, ministers have allowed people to behave like epileptics on stage?and they have attributed their attention-getting antics to the Holy Spirit. We may think it?s all in fun (you know, we?re just ?acting crazy? for God) but we should be more concerned that such behavior feeds carnality and grieves the Spirit.

When exotic manifestations are encouraged, people can actually get a religious high from jerking, vibrating, screaming or acting intoxicated. (I have even been around people who writhed as if in pain, or made sexual noises?thinking this was a legitimate spiritual experience.) But emotional euphoria doesn?t guarantee a heart change. The person who is bucking like an untamed bronco in a church service would benefit more from sitting still and reading the Bible for an hour. When we put bizarre behavior on the platform we imply that it is normative. Thus more strange fire is allowed to spread.

Grady mentions:


I am rejoicing over all the reported healings at the Lakeland meetings. Miracles are awesome.

Christians are going to have to wake up to understanding, that when charlatans are at work we should not claim a Holy Spirit spawned “miracle”. But first one must admit a charlatan is claiming moves of the Holy Spirit falsely.

Grady sees some of the issues and Lord willing he’ll see more in time.

Now I need to show more of the nonsense of Patricia King. I pray Mr. Grady does not find her antics acceptable. I could write many posts about her false doctrinal teachings, but I won’t in this particular post.



Clouds Without Water: Patricia King

Saints, you would do well to AVOID the mess taking place in Lakeland, Florida.

My Bible does not say in these times we would have massive “revival” guaranteed, but various FALSE doctrines certainly are promised to be in our time, Matthew 24:24 [click to expand link].

(Given where ever Todd Bentley is exposed, it seems some who don’t want to embrace the truth go as out of order as occurs in those meetings, comments will be under heavy moderation.)

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19 Responses to “Todd Bentley Says: Jesus Has Brown Eyes Like Bambi”

  1. 2thehilt Says:

    IC, Thank you so much for posting these videos. That assembly that I escaped from (you know? the one where I told you they had that “revivalist”/false prophet showed up”?) used to show Patricia King’s videos. I knew there was something weird about her, but couldn’t quite put my finger on it. I am thankful to God because through this expose, He has confirmed that my leaving that assembly was the right thing to do. It was, apparently, done in just the nick of time!

  2. Vaughn Says:

    “In many recent charismatic revivals, ministers have allowed people to behave like epileptics on stage—and they have attributed their attention-getting antics to the Holy Spirit. We may think it’s all in fun (you know, we’re just “acting crazy” for God) but we should be more concerned that such behavior feeds carnality and grieves the Spirit.

    When exotic manifestations are encouraged, people can actually get a religious high from jerking, vibrating, screaming or acting intoxicated. (I have even been around people who writhed as if in pain, or made sexual noises—thinking this was a legitimate spiritual experience.) But emotional euphoria doesn’t guarantee a heart change. The person who is bucking like an untamed bronco in a church service would benefit more from sitting still and reading the Bible for an hour. When we put bizarre behavior on the platform we imply that it is normative. Thus more strange fire is allowed to spread.”

    I feel the same and don’t mind saying so, ask that person that does this, what food did you get during service?, and they couldn’t tell you anything except, how the (s)pirit was high!. But I’m there to give God my praise while trying to glean something that will help me through my next storm in life, with the effort to try to count it all joy along with giving Him thanks in everything that I encounter. These are learned behaviors, that sometimes take a lifetime to obtain.

    Jam 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;

    1Th 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

  3. truthintheselastdays Says:

    IC, my dad got on a plane from here in London to that thing in Florida, and since he’s been sacked from work for “hysterical behaviour”, thrown out of a courtroom at his own brother’s hearing for “disturbing the court” since all he does is laugh and shake at the most inappropriate time. Nothing but New Age in Christian garb if you ask this teenager

  4. WALLY Says:

    And we also have stupid Todd Bentley espousing not only about his experience with the angel Emma, who helped birth and start the whole prophetic movement in Kansas City in the 1980s, but the virtues of Bob Jones, another sexual pervert about whom it is reported at http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/lakeland-revival-todd-bentley-bob-jones-and-some-things-to-consider/

    The news about Jones was reported in the Olathe Daily News paper, 11/31/91. It contained that Jones admitted to sexual misconduct. He was removed from “ministry” to undergo a process of “restoration”. This news was also published in a book called “What Happened To The Fire” by Lee Grady (1994). On page 103 it states, “About a year later, after the church had become affiliated with John Wimber’s Vineyard network of churches, Jones admitted to a moral failure and was removed from his leadership position. Later, Mike Bickle stated publicly that he had promoted Jones improperly. He admitted that his church’s emphasis on prophecy and mystical experiences had been unhealthy and destructive.” Then, in another review of the Kansas City Prophets, Bill Alnor of the Christian Sentinal reported the following: “Jones, who was using his spiritual authority to induce women to disrobe for him, was removed from that church.” I have contacted Bill personally and he will be forwarding me a copy of the investigative internal report that was published directly by the leadership team at the church where this incident transpired. The Apologetics Index, which is a ministry that researches resources on cults, sects and other religious movements, doctrines and practices, also reported on the matter. They state the following, that Bob Jones “was removed from the Vineyard Anaheim because of sexual improprieties, which consisted of encouraging women to undress in his office so they could stand ‘naked before the Lord’ in order to receive a ‘word.'” In addition to this, several cult watch organizations have put him (Bob Jones) on watch for the same thing. Those are my sources concerning the sexual misconduct issue

    Any revival that has the involvement of sexual perverts, such as Paul Cain and Bob Jones, is from the pits of hell and not from God! These liars, deceivers and conartists at the Lakeland Revival, including Todd Bentley and Stephen Strader, only see and hear what they want to see and hear and that is so dumb because others are not dumb like they are! They see the truth about this so called revival is nothing but a farce and a joke devoid of integrity no matter how many people they might deceive!

    What do you think of Todd Bentley’s friend Bob Jones encouraging women to undress in his office so they could stand ‘naked before the Lord’ in order to receive a ‘word?'”

    And speaking of John Wimber’s Vineyard network of churches, and his mother church Vineyard Anaheim, the Ledger reported Sunday: http://www.theledger.com/article/20080518/news/805180341&tc=yahoo

    The Toronto revival began at the Toronto Airport Vineyard Church under evangelist Randy Clark just as the Carpenter’s Home revival was ending. It drew attention – and ridicule – for some practices that were even more unusual than holy laughter, such as people roaring like lions, barking like dogs or flapping their arms. Eventually, at the request of the Association of Vineyard Churches, the church withdrew from the association and changed its named to Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship.

    Why should anybody be surprised at the type of unscrupulous characters they can find in these “Third Wave” revivals including my comment: http://lionsmouth.tripod.com/todd.pdf

    Yes, they are nothing but con men who on the surface are always kind, nice and pleasant just like Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship’s John Arnott. But when you ask too much questions from them they show their true nature and become “vipers” and sue you in court for $ 50 million dollars and then use legal maneuvers to try avoid going through with their lawsuit because it’s all a con job!

    Yes these so called prophets and preachers in the Third Wave revivals who are not only arrogant, proud, egotistic, self centered and money loving but dangerous to your spiritual, physical and financial health

  5. IndependentConservative Says:

    Brother, I know what it’s like to have close relatives caught up in mess, to the point it impacts MORE than what they’re doing on a Sunday morning.

    I’ll be praying for your dad.

  6. IndependentConservative Says:

    It’s just crazy!


    But when you ask too much questions from them they show their true nature and become “vipers” and sue you in court for $ 50 million dollars and then use legal maneuvers to try avoid going through with their lawsuit because it’s all a con job!

    And for anyone wondering, EVERY WORD QUOTED ABOVE IS THE TRUTH AND NO FABRICATION.

  7. LaVrai.COM Says:

    You know what stuns me… well, actually it doesn’t because we do it all the time.

    Nobody is putting this whole ‘revival’ idea in context. In the scriptures of Joel doesn’t GOD say HE will pour out HIS Spirit on all of HIS servants…?

    Joel 2:28-32

    28 “ And it shall come to pass afterward
    That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh;
    Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
    Your old men shall dream dreams,
    Your young men shall see visions.

    29 And also on My menservants and on My maidservants
    I will pour out My Spirit in those days.

    30 “And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth:
    Blood and fire and pillars of smoke.

    31 The sun shall be turned into darkness,
    And the moon into blood,
    Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD.

    32 And it shall come to pass
    That whoever calls on the name of the LORD
    Shall be saved.
    For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be deliverance,
    As the LORD has said,
    Among the remnant whom the LORD calls.

    Does this sound like a man-made ‘revival’ like the one everyone seems to be talking about? It appears to me, based on the prophecies, that what GOD ALMIGHTY is doing is not of man… as usual.

    As noted in the post, what the scriptures foretell is that we, members of the Church, will fall away. That’s what we are going to do because that’s what we will choose to do for various reasons. What is mentioned in Joel is what GOD will do by HIS own will…not of man’s.

    What’s going on is not a revival from GOD as the fruit of all of this ‘anointing’ and ‘imparting’ doesn’t match up with the fruit or manifestations of GOD’s Holy Spirit.

    And you know what the Holy Bible says about works that are not of GOD…

  8. IndependentConservative Says:

    Well what is even more stunning, is that God ALREADY DID much of what was prophesied by Joel THROUGH THE APOSTLES AND THOSE WITH THEM, Acts 2:14-24. Which is why Peter said this is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel”, regarding events taking place at that very moment.

    And yea, we’re promised something more along the lines of 2 Thessalonians 2.

    And that’s not to say God can’t do, but we know when God does do it’s not nonsense from vipers.

  9. stan Says:

    The miracles and signs of the apostles and disciples in the days of the New Testament writings were directly connected to the gospel of the resurrected Man. What is missing from the likes of Todd Bentley and Patricia King is anything to do with the gospel and the apostle’s doctrine. They make rare, fleeting and irrelevant references to the Word of God to keep the unsuspecting and the deluded masses supporting them.

    Patricia King’s convulsions are initiated by the trigger word “glory” in the second video, showing that disturbances and loss of control (opposite of the fruit of the Spirit’s called “self-control”) are taking place within her. She calls the euphoric feeling that comes over her “the presence of God” despite the fact that no one in the Word described God’s presence in such terms. Nor did anyone ever jerk uncontrollably when the Spirit came upon them.

    The Levitical priests could not stand up due to the cloud of glory that filled the temple. The glory cloud was seen as a cloud, therefore everyone understood that there was a tangible reason for their inability to stand.

    However, when the Spirit fell on Cornelius and his household, no one fell down, acted drunk, laid flat on their backs doing “carpet time” or jerked spasmodically as they spoke in tongues and magnified God. No. That’s all happening today, in the days of deception and apostasy.

  10. IndependentConservative Says:

    No. That’s all happening today, in the days of deception and apostasy.

    Exactly!

  11. rascoe1 Says:

    Thanks again IC. You must read the following blog –
    http://churchwarnings.blogspot.com/2008/05/pastors-wife-responds-totodd-bentler.html

  12. rascoe1 Says:

    Sorry about error,
    http://churchwarnings.blogspot.com/2008/05/pastors-wife-responds-totodd-bentley.html

  13. IndependentConservative Says:

    That’s a good warning.

    I’ve never seen that blog before, but the alarms are going off all over from elect of God who are crying out against what is going on in Lakeland. Brothers like Wally have been all over this for maybe a month or more now, keeping me posted. What I’ve posted is not even 5% of all that could be posted.

  14. Airbrush Artist Says:

    These Moronic False Prophets are laughable,The One thing that will never fail to reveal their Lies is Jesus never done these ridiculous Things they Do,He’s Our example I always resort to that Truth -If He didn’t do it, then Its a Lie of Satan using His Minions…or unknowledgeable People

  15. SteelGator Says:

    Wow…This is some more false teaching that is leading more sheep away from the Good Shepherd, Christ.

    I never have been a part of a charismatic Christian organization. For far too long, I never knew nor paid attention to these false doctrines. It looks like many of these teachings can be traced back to “false teachings” that were around during the time of Christ.

  16. stan Says:

    The One thing that will never fail to reveal their Lies is Jesus never done these ridiculous Things they Do

    True, Airbrush Artist. Thanks for pointing that out. One of the guiding principles I use to determine whether an interpretation of any teaching of the apostles (precept) is sound is, “Does it have a precedent (example)?” Thus, for instance, Luke 10:19; Ephesians 6:12 and 2 Corinthians 10:3-5 which are used widely to teach current spiritual warfare methods to dethrone spirits or to undo their influence over others, fails immediately through lack of example in the ministry of Jesus or His apostles. Therefore, these verses must be teaching something else and in a different context which is lost on them completely due to their false use of them. This is an example of the harm of “Prooftexting” as an exegetical method.

    Same can be said for “slaying in the spirit;” “catchers’ ministry”
    “drunkenness in the spirit;” “uncontrollable laughter;” “shaking and spasmodic jerking;”
    “visualization techniques for entering the third heaven;” “shofars, flags, banners and female interpretative dancing in worship.”

    Other practices, such as paying tithes, praying directly to the Holy Spirit or enforcing the calling of brethren in leadership by titles such as “reverend,” “pastor,” “father,” etc. are also wrong, but accepted as legitimate practice by many.

    Everyone of these can be dismissed immediately by God’s church because of the lack of both precedent and/or the direct forbidding of them in the apostles’ doctrine.

    What does Jesus say about our man-made teachings and practices? “By your tradition, you nullify the Word of God.”

    Every time I study the Word of God, then look around at what is taught and practiced in most churches, the wider the gap gets between the two. For a long time, I felt that I was the only one coming to this sad and distressing realization. However, I found in such places as many of these blogs, there are more believers seeing the same thing than I had dared hope for.

  17. IndependentConservative Says:

    Speaking of:

    interpretative dancing in worship

    Check this false gospel out. (Watch that madness in the video on that front page. War dance?…) That lady used to have this going on at Club New Birth once upon a time. Club New Birth probably still does it, but she left from what I’ve been told, because she felt her “ministry” was too big for one club. Now she’s got a “conference” coming up. Featuring more false teachers than the Lord has willed time to comment on individually.

    And Stan, the “conference” will even have a session on “Understanding the Power of the Shofar”. They will also feature some “African dancing” and this is something Job has warned about before.

  18. SteelGator Says:

    That “interpretative dancing” video looks like a poor dance squad and drill team at a high school football game.

    I can’t stand “spiritual dancing”. I think it is a total distraction to a worship service and it looks to be pretty self focused rather than God focused.

    Also, the African “pagan” dancing has no place in a CHRISTIAN church.

  19. stan Says:

    I watched that video by Sabrina McKenzie. Those are the same theories I heard in my old church, but not in such a full-blown form. She made seriously unbiblical assertions about dancing: That it ushers in the presence of God, that it is spiritual warfare, that you need specific colors for the banner/veils and they needed to be placed strategically around the building.

    In the Old Testament, where we find almost all dancing in the Bible, it is associated almost always with military victories. The dances occurred after the victories were over, not in order to get them. There was dancing when the Ark of God was moved to Jerusalem during David’s time, when he danced with all his might. This was a procession or parade. The dancing and general rejoicing was appropriate. The Ark had been locked up for twenty years in a private home and was now being returned to the nation at large. In Jeremiah 31, dancing was promised by God to His people when He would accomplish their long-awaited victory and would bring them into their rest. Dancing is certainly appropriate as an expression of joy over something that one may experience.

    This is where this so-called dance theory in church falls down. They are doing it as a performance in front of God’s people instead of spontaneously celebrating some notable victory.

    Let’s imagine that a member of a church congregation who had been crippled or paralyzed for many years and who always came to services and church gatherings with a walker, crutches or in a wheelchair was suddenly and totally healed like the beggar of Acts 3 or like Aeneas of Acts 9.
    Can you imagine anyone dancing then? Boy, I can! First of all, it would be the healed person himself, just like the beggar who “was walking and leaping and praising God.” His praise and dance would be directly related to his sudden and total healing. His long-term friends and brethren in the church would be overcome with his joy and would join him, you can be sure.

    I’ll bet that the beggar and Aeneaus both danced for quite a while after their miraculous return to normal life. Their miracles meant that they were no longer pitiful beggars, dependent on the charity of others. Now, they could join the workforce; maybe start a family; go down to the local marketplace during the day to chat with friends and strangers about the mercy of God, or browse, haggle and buy what they wanted; take a walk along the beach or swim in the sea; walk up to the rooftop on a sultry morning to listen to the local gossip and news; sit in a service on a bench in the midst of the people. No longer did they need anyone to carry them to the begging places. They could look people square in the eye without looking up and the people could look at them without looking down. They could now give alms out of their own means to the crippled beggars they met afterward. They were beyond happy. They were dancing happy. God had given them divine victories worthy of leaping about.

    It doesn’t take such dramatically joyful events to make one dance, though. I can see someone who has been freed from destructive sins and addictions happy enough to dance. I know what it is to be free from drunkenness and the unstoppable cravings that drove me from morning to night; to be free from the shame of not knowing what you said or did last night; to pass by a liquor store or a bar and not feel the least pull toward drink is a wonderful thing. No longer was hell my destination. If I feel like singing or even dancing about it, at least I know why I would. Having been given the victory over sins is the sort of thing that we are to sing with grace in our hearts to the Lord about.

    Yet, what a marked difference there is between such spontaneous and event-driven joyful expressions and these contrived performances being promoted in services these days. How sad that dance is now a liturgical and practiced formality. The Israelites did not dance except to express happiness over a deliverance wrought by God. There was no hint that it was ever a show of some kind, thought to be imbued with mystical power.

    How depressing to know that this sort of dancing is being taught by the likes of Sabrina’s ministry as some sort of warfare over demons or that they think it ushers in God’s Glory. It robs the church of true occasions of joy and leaves them only with imagined victories.

    Such pride of human skill cannot be compared to the childlike and joyful expression of the former crippled beggar who sat at the Gate Beautiful.

    God is a God of truth, not a God of human contrivances.

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