Hollywood’s War on God

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1. stan Says:
   May 4th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

   Informative and well done videos. I have seen some of the movies he speaks of and noticed the quasi-biblical imagery and terms being used in them but did not put it together as Gnostic propaganda quite like he did. Although, its impossible for a Christian not to notice the theme of man possessing power within his own person that can alter the environment for his purposes (or to “do good”). The comic book genre makes personal power its number one theme. The Gnostic hopes to escape the limitations and frailities of human life by imagining a different reality where he wields godlike power and overcomes in his own person what God Almighty has cursed the day Adam sinned.

   In the Bible, we see man delivered as an act coming down from God – from Heaven, not from within the man himself. God made man dependent, not imbued with supernatural abilities – a humbling and even humiliating fact for those who take pride in what man can hope to achieve by dint of his own resources.

   I remember reading about John G. Lake (of Spokane, Washington notoriety) saying, “In 1908, I preached at Pretoria, South Africa, when one night God came over my life in such power, in such streams of liquid glory and power, that it flowed consciously off my hands like streams of electricity. I would point my finger at a man, and that stream would strike him. When a man interrupted the meeting, I would point my finger at him and say: “Sit down!” He fell as if struck, and lay for three hours. When he became normal they asked him what happened, and he said, “Something struck me that went straight through me. I thought I was shot.”

   http://www.tentmaker.org/holy-spirit/baptism1.htm

   This sort of talk of the Spirit’s power is foreign to the Bible. But, it is not foreign to those who think supernatural power flows from humans like some powerful, natural force like lightning. In the Star Wars movies, we see the Jedi Knights shooting Tesla-like bolts from their hands to disable or knock someone backwards some distance – the same thing Lake claims above in his own ministry. Lake shows his Gnostic beliefs very strongly with such statements. Following that claim is this similar one: At two o’clock in the morning I ministered to sixty-five sick who were present, and the streams of God that were pouring through my hands were so powerful the people would fall as though they were hit. I was troubled because they fell with such violence. And the Spirit said: “You do not need to put your hands on them. Keep your hands a distance away.” And when I held my hands a foot from their heads they would crumple and fall in a heap on the floor. They were healed almost every one. Here, he adds to his error by “quoting” the Spirit of God as the author of this nonsense.

   In the Bible, the power to do anything did not shoot from the minister like electricity or lightning. No, God did the work in union with His chosen minister, such as with Moses, Elijah, Peter or Paul without those men wielding the power personally.

   Poor Gnostics. All they have is their fantasies. What better way to solidify them than to make a movie of them with special effects? That is as close as they will get for now until the King of the Gnostics, the Antichrist (and his false prophet), takes center stage someday. Then, sudden destruction will come down upon them and their deceived legions as the Word predicts.

   A word to the wise: “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” Luke 21:36

2. IndependentConservative Says:
   May 4th, 2008 at 10:33 pm

   Personally I started taking notice of some of it when I read this many years ago.

   And that’s not the only movie I’ve seen something like that for, provided by the makers of the movie, to anyone that researches the movie deeply enough.

   It’s not something they are trying to be very covert about, one only needs to take the time to look into it. But most of us usually never look beyond what is shown on the big screen. Which we pay for.

   This cord of “Universalism” in the world today allows movie makers to do this AND very openly proclaim it and most who find out about it are not alarmed at all.

   stan reply on May 7th, 2008 at 1:07 pm :

   I read the article about the Matrix in the link, IC. It was excellent and gives me a lot of insight into the movie. I have seen it quite a few times, trying to see what it was trying to say; but, I see its meanings and references mostly eluded me having now read that article.

   IndependentConservative reply on May 7th, 2008 at 1:32 pm :

   I have seen it quite a few times, trying to see what it was trying to say;

   You too uh ? (To our shame…)

   Yea I was trying to figure all the messages out and finally found that write-up when doing a deep review of their web site years ago.

   Once I realized they had a view of a “flawed God”…that helped me see things were afoul in la-la land.

   In the Star Wars DVD Trilogy box set, they have a disk titled “Toplining is Empire of Dreams: The Story of the Star Wars Trilogy”. It includes coverage of the “religious” aspects of the movie. Let’s just say, it helped me see things were afoul in la-la land even when I was a child. (You know we always like to feel things were better when we were kids. And Star Wars was like the first “super” movie of my childhood.)

   stan reply on May 7th, 2008 at 5:41 pm :

   You sound like you’re a lot younger than me, since I was born in 1951.
   I liked aspects of the Matrix because I am a bit geeky, meaning I enjoy the inventiveness of technology, which that movie abounded in. The violence was too much over the top, though.

   In my uninformed views of the Matrix, I saw Neo in a quasi-Christ role, seeking to save people from their sins and the delusions that they lived in, unaware of their true condition of being dead like those humans being farmed in stylized sarcophagi.

   The Oracle, though, I found so absurd and double-tongued that I found myself telling her to please shut up. (Yes, I sometimes talk to characters on screen; but don’t tell anyone. I’d be embarrassed if anyone else knew )

   In the video, the pastor (Joe Schimmel) says that Agent Smith is an inverted Christ, i.e., putting Jesus Christ in the role of an evil and eventually defeated personality. I can’t quite agree. I believe the article better explains the Gnostic symbolism of Smith: These Agents are akin to the jealous archons created by Yaldabaoth who block the ascent of the Gnostic as he/she tries to leave the material realm and guard the gates of the successive levels of heaven.

   http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/new_phil_wakeup.html

   I’m on my second reading of the article. Part of my ease with reading it is my familiarity with Irenaeus, an Anti-Nicene Father that Pastor Joe refers to, who wrote extensively about the religion of the Gnostics in order to explain its details so that he could demolish its absurdities. His work is called “Against Heresies,” a long, masterful work of apologetics and theology. His value comes not only from his formidable knowledge, but also from his temporal and spiritual closeness to the original apostles – a fact that exudes from every chapter of his wonderful work. http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103.htm

   IndependentConservative reply on May 7th, 2008 at 6:32 pm :

   I think the “Oracle” first tipped us all off that something was not right about the movie.

   Are you sure that Agent Smith could be explained away as just one of many archons, when he had powers that were superior to all the other agents? I don’t know how many of the Matrix movies you saw (don’t tell anybody I saw them all), but Smith had powers that were way beyond the others and he sought to be all powerful himself. Even once having a man’s body in the movie’s “real” world, which Neo (the one, Antichrist) killed.

   I went to one of the movies with some friends and when they showed the “party in Zion” one friend was certain the creators of the movie desired it to be a massive scene of hedonism and were only held back for the sake of a desired movie rating. I didn’t really “get it” back then (I realized the “prayer” was anti-christ though), but he was right. It was supposed to be all out hedonism and basically a false view of hell. As if hell will be a big “party”.

   It all relates to the inverted Gnostic symbolism of course. It seems Smith would fit Schimmel’s description, but I could be wrong. It does not seem Smith would fit anywhere else when viewing his role in the totality of all the Matrix movies in full.

   stan reply on May 7th, 2008 at 7:52 pm :

   I did see the next two when they came on prime time TV. I wanted to see why they were using so many Christian/Biblical terms and where they were going with them. Needless to say, I didn’t quite figure it out after the third one was over. I was left scratching my head over a lot of it. What was obvious to me though was that they weren’t using biblical terms to honor God, but were weaving their own high-tech mythology based on ancient belief systems.

   Are you sure that Agent Smith could be explained away as just one of many archons, when he had powers that were superior to all the other agents?

   Good question. No, I can’t say I am sure, it is just an opinion. Here is what the article says about it, which I find interesting:

   And the power of the mother [Sophia, in our analogy, humankind] went out of Yaldabaoth [AI] into the natural body which they had fashioned [the humans grown on farms by AI]… And in that moment the rest of the powers [archons / Agents ] became jealous, because he had come into being through all of them and they had given their power to the man, and his intelligence ["mind"] was greater than that of those who had made him, and greater than that of the chief archon [Agent Smith?]. And when they recognized that he was luminous, and that he could think better than they… they took him and threw him into the lowest region of all matter [simulated by the Matrix]. (Apocry. of John 19-20)

   I can see the author’s point, but I confess I am not always adept at performing autopsies on movies to discover their secret meanings. Pastor Joe and the authors of the article you linked do a much better job than I could hope to do.

   Sometimes I draw very Christian analogies from movies that probably did not mean to present such a world view. Art often uses the eye of the beholder to make up his own interpretation even if it is far from the author’s intentions. I can do that. For example, I remember watching the 1946 version of “Great Expectations” and I was stunned at some of the biblical lessons I saw in the movie.

   IndependentConservative reply on May 7th, 2008 at 9:48 pm :

   Stan, you are a movie maker’s dream customer. They all tap various religions and often try to toss a few things in that they hope all kinds of people of various faiths will see something in. Just to hook you, for your money of course. But it really ends up being a Baal pie, but people of each distinct faith only see what is related to their own.

   Given the inverted view sees “light in man” that can basically make man “God”, the explanation in the write-up makes sense, in Antichrist terms that is. The agents saw man had greater power than even their leader Smith (evil christ figure), so they were upset about that. It seems to work with Joe’s explanation. Keep in mind pagans don’t really see Jesus as God. Which is why the inverted Satanic view feels they can defeat Christ.

   stan reply on May 7th, 2008 at 11:29 pm :

   Stan, you are a movie maker’s dream customer. They all tap various religions and often try to toss a few things in that they hope all kinds of people of various faiths will see something in. Just to hook you, for your money of course.

   LOL. I guess so. However, they don’t get my money, per se. I don’t go to the movies. I only watch them if they’re on my cable service.

   Some of the movies I watch are for entertainment and the others for the study of the subject matter and/or human nature. In the latter kind, I watch them in a detached state of mind with biblical passages going through my mind. One of the most common verses I end up thinking about is Luke 6:24 because of the affluence being displayed in most movies.

   The problem with nearly all of them anymore is that I get too bored to watch them through. So, I’m most likely to watch one if I am working on the computer for the office or typing documents. I find I can’t just deliberately watch one without getting antsy and bored pretty quickly.

3. stan Says:
   May 6th, 2008 at 12:43 am

   To most, movies are just entertainment to relax the mind. So, there is very little thinking going on in the viewer. The ones who take them seriously are people like the Columbine killers who took imagery and themes from the Matrix in a horribly literal sense.

   Harry Potter is more disturbing to me because the target audience is young children. Kids too often seek escape from the hardships of life through their fantasies because they don’t have other options. Potter offers them a world where unpleasant circumstances can be changed in their favor and fears can be dispelled by incantations. So, these movies plant seeds deep in their hearts that result in them seeking magical answers for the curse of life brought on by sin instead of seeking salvation from the true and living God.

   I didn’t know, until I heard it in the video, that Keith Richards and Keanu Reeves use demon spirits to enhance their art. You have to be afraid for these authors and artists who are seeking to influence their audience toward demonic Gnosticism and away from the truth of Jesus Christ.

   How wonderful is the wisdom that comes from the Word of God. It gives stability to the soul and relieves it of the dread and confusion that plague the unbeliever.

   God help all men.

   ncatina reply on May 6th, 2008 at 11:40 am :

   Stan, I also took note of these actors and actresses calling upon demonic spirits to help enhance their “artistry” for film. It’s almost fair to say the same happens in some forms of music; specifically heavy metal, where the bands may be involved in satanism.

   As you said, the majority of us, me included, look at films and music for it’s entertainment value. However, I am not ignorant of the demonic forces that infiltrate the media and the influence they have on people. To that end, I do make adjustments to what I view and listen to.

   Good post as always, IC.

4. 2thehilt Says:
   May 6th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

   IC, Thanks for posting these videos, as well as the ones previously, with Dr. Kovar (sp?).
   A few things that I was already aware of were reinforced, for me:

   1. Hollywood is “Hollyweird” and is on its way to hell.

   2. Every sin against God is a “sacrament” for the enemy. Holiness is “Godly Chic” (my new term).

   3. Tighten up my game on the things I watch and listen to. I was already getting uncomfortable with the level of new age filth being spewed forth by Hollyweird, but now, moreso.

   4. Read, Read, Read the Word of God and hold onto as much of it as possible. This is the anti-venom to the world’s deception.

   5. Pray for the lost to come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. They are so deceived, that they don’t even know that they are lost.

   Ok, stepping down off my soapbox.

   IndependentConservative reply on May 6th, 2008 at 12:35 pm :

   Very well said.

5. IndependentConservative Says:
   May 9th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

   I was just watching the Speed Racer Trailer and noticed it mentioned that the makers of the Matrix movies are behind it.

   Now I’m thinking “oh no, did they put gnostic garbage into Speed Racer too???”! I have not seen it yet, just been thinking about it.

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