I think Dana Carson has some valid points to make.

Can you look at Ephesians 5:1-12 and tell me if what you saw in that video reflects filthy silly talk and if not, why not? I could get some “valid points” from a secular psychologist, but that does not mean I should seek a secular psychologist when it comes to my walk with Christ. Also consider the article speakingtruth pointed out to us. Here’s a quote from it:

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Other clergy in the area offered more biting criticism of Carson’s ministry.

“He’s looking to get 5,000. He’s looking for numbers,” says the Reverend Leonard James Sr. at Greater Works Baptist Church, just a few blocks from Praise Tabernacle. “He’s a cosmetic preacher.”

James flatly denied Carson’s claim that Austin isn’t a church town. Austin, James claimed, needs “flatfooted teachers, not showmen” and “not prosperity preachers who just talk about money.” He added that he’d seen little of Carson in the community.

Janet Blake, day-care director at the nearby True Light Baptist Church and president of her neighborhood association, agreed: “He wasn’t part of the community. He didn’t come to neighborhood meetings.”

“If you didn’t have a lot of education, you didn’t go there. If you didn’t have a lot of money, you didn’t go there,” she says, railing against what she perceived as a Gospel of Wealth emphasis. “Their ministry was pretty much just to enhance themselves. There was no outreach.”

She also felt skeptical about the move to Houston: “It’s more about power with him. It’s supposed to be about saving souls and he’s saying, ‘Follow me.’”
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I could have addressed Dana Carson from about 100 different angles. He is a showman who could really care less about your soul. (Read that article in full, he’s a pulpit pimp, just a viper, nothing more, not a man you want to be near.)

I think Dana Carson has some valid points to make.

Is anyone aware of Dr. Frederick D. Haynes, III
Senior Pastor, Friendship-West Baptist Church?

Deron makes Little Dana look like a choir boy.

It was hard enough for me to endure (watching) Dana and actually post his mess here.

Deron makes Little Dana look like a choir boy.

Deron spoke in Charlotte in 2005 at a CNB Men’s Retreat and literally cursed us all out. He used the “P” word, “D” word, “N” word, “MF”, “F” (I feel like I’m in the 3rd grade”) and every other vile curse word you could think of in front of Eddie Long and the male ministers and elders

He even called Eddie “my N” and a ” real MF pastor” – to show how “real” Eddie was for inviting him to curse us out. The auditorium was full of men (around 5K) and you could’ve heard a pin drop on a cottonball!

While he was speaking about sexual abuse in church, how black men need to take responsibility, etc., he was stomping back and forth cursing like a drunken sailor.

Eddie didn’t denounce Deron – in fact, he praised him AND invited Deron to speak from the pulpit at CNB. I’ve never seen so many men confused about what they had just witnessed – and many of us broke off into small groups to try and clean up (through scripture) the crap we had just been fed.

Now, Deron has a church/theatrical company in Stone Mountain (suburban Atlanta).

I wonder if he’s still cursing out the congregation…

I mean he was keeping it “real” right?

Simply. Astonishing.

But having grown up in the black church all my life (emphasis on all) I can witness that this type of messy preaching is all too common, even among those who claim to be educated.

Its like the preach with a thug-in-the-rug mentality appealing to a like minded mentality.

You’re right, we were strutting around in those jackets like we had just finished pledging and we were flashing our letters.

I saw brothers in the mall talking to young ladies while showing of their CNB jackets. I even remember Jesse Curney asking everyone for $100 to help Long pay for all those spiffy jackets – and I PAID IT! (Lord have mercy)

I just gave my jacket to Goodwill a few months ago, so at least I finally got it out of my house

And, I also just threw out the “graduation video tape” and my “diploma” after I left Landers’ plantation.

Good grief – I’m gonna need some of Peter Popoff’s “miracle manna” to chew on so that I can get back on the “narrow path”

If Eddie’s only problem was the language… …Lord help him.

If he was talking like that in front of you guys, I would not want to hear what his kids have heard him say at home.