Do Madeline Neumann’s parents now realize they had faith, but were deceived?
(Hat tip to YouTubber jterry316.)
That child is dead and the Lord allowed that child to die, not just because it was her “time” to go, but because her parents are deceived. It was not because they lacked faith in God’s ability, but they are deceived in how to do something like treat a disease God has allowed all people to know how to treat.
1 Timothy 5:23 (New American Standard Bible)
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When the Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ named Paul wrote to Timothy, God did not have Paul to tell Timothy he needed more “faith” when he had treatable medical problems. God did not have Paul to rush to see Timothy, to pray healing for Timothy. God had Paul to simply give Timothy the widely known treatment, stop drinking so much water and drink a little wine. Historically it is noted that the water in the area Timothy was in had some issues and we see from scripture Timothy had some medical problems. The recommendation of a little wine to a man who avoided strong drink was the prescription Paul gave to Timothy. Because it was the known means to fix the problem. A little wine was the medicine for that matter. And it was a prescription even heathens were aware of. The bottom line is, Timothy was sick and Paul DID NOT tell Timothy to rest on faith, he knew Timothy HAD FAITH, he gave Timothy the common prescription for fixing the problem. A little wine.
Many saints have been deceived into feeling that they need some great mountain of faith, or they will suffer all kinds of catastrophe.
Matthew 17:14-20 (New American Standard Bible)
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This verse is often cited in the Word of Faith movement, the cult of “little gods”. They feel if they will within themselves enough “faith” they’ll have and do anything, because Jesus said nothing would be impossible. What they are missing is the fullness of the statement. Jesus was NOT trying to get people to have faith for healings. He was pressing them to have faith that HE IS THE CHRIST. The miracles were all simply to help them see He is the Christ. The Word of Faith movement, that cult of “little gods” and other similar cults have twisted the gospel AWAY FROM FAITH IN CHRIST FOR SALVATION OF THE SOUL into faith for all things of this world, this life and the flesh. One has to wonder why people in the Word of Faith movement even eat? Why don’t they just have “faith” that their bellies will be full? Nothing impossible right? They realize their physical body needs certain things to survive, including food and water. When the body breaks down, it needs things such as medicines and other treatments God willed man to have via common grace. Just as we eat and drink for our physical survival, we also should use medical treatments when the physical body has need of them.
We know Jesus is the Christ, He paid the price for our sins and He’s on the Right Hand of the Father. During the establishment of His church, some still did not believe. People that God wanted to convince via miracles. So THE APOSTLES were granted power to do things as Christ and greater. In John 14 Jesus was pressing His Apostles to fully believe He is the Son of God and declared what they would be able to do if they did. They were to work ministering His Gospel, as He declared from the Father. Jesus having the fullness of deity, God in flesh, perfect in every way, because He is as His Father who gave Him all, God, John 1:1 [click to expand link], John 1:14 [click to expand link] and John 3:35 [click to expand link]
We humans are not God, not even with a small “g”. We are sinners saved by grace. We who believe as Christ wanted His Apostles to believe, that He truly is the Son of God. The Apostles in working for Christ in the establishment of His church were granted full handle of all gifts of the Spirit. We have the same Holy Spirit as them, but the Lord did not declare we all would have command of all gifts, 1 Corinthians 12. So we don’t have the ability to declare NOTHING is impossible to us, we simply live by faith and accept as the Lord wills.
James 4:15 (New American Standard Bible)
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Like Timothy who was not an Apostle and did not have all gifts of the Spirit, he could not overcome his ailments without a medicinal treatment, wine. We use what the Lord has made available as the Lord wills, we don’t turn away from it.
1 Timothy 4:1-5 (New American Standard Bible)
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No hungry man should turn down any food given to him and no sick person should turn away medicine to cure their ailments. It’s not putting faith in man to take medicine no more than its putting faith in man to eat a steak. (Thank God for steaks
.) No good saint puts their faith in the medicine or in the steak or in man, but in Christ. We go to the doctor because he has studied how the body works and can help maintain it. When our car breaks, we don’t leave it on the side of the road waiting in “faith” for NOTHING IMPOSSIBLE faith to repair the car. Using what the Lord has willed us to have accessible to us for the body to survive is not bad or any lack of faith. God has given the things for our use and we should be grateful for it. So long as it is not something we know harms the body and we know the TRUTH that Jesus is Lord, we should make full use of what God has granted to us, thankfully, it’s sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
This does not mean God won’t ever do something miraculous, but it’s as He wills and we must use things obviously at our disposal rather than refusing them. Accept easy access to a medical cure as a miracle in its self, considering what saints in other nations suffer through. They would love to have easier medical treatment of some of their physical ailments.
So Word of Faith people, please turn from that “little god” heresy. Enough people have already died. And I know not all of you go as far as Madeline Neumann’s parents, I used to be one of you myself and I always went to the doctor. However, I have seen someone refuse medical care till death in “faith”, I know some who are very ill for slacking off on doctor prescribed medicine and your wayward doctrine causes you to error even if not in cases of medicine. You can only do as the Lord wills and should not take yourself as some super being with nothing you can’t do. You do the work of God as the Lord commands, accept what He has granted you with thanksgiving and contentment and keep faith on Him for eternal life.
When the Azusa Madness went north of the border it landed in Toronto.
Check out the promotional video the cult known as the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship has produced. They are rather proud of their out of order behavior. But some aspects of the cult they don’t mention in the video, but check out their promo video and then I’ll share more with you about why they are a cult. Although, the video should make it obvious.
Now if you don’t know what is wrong with that video, please check this out.
And notice how they laud cultists like Benny Hinn and Kathryn Kuhlman.
They talk of a “transferable” fire, but it’s not really about faith in Christ for salvation. It’s about jumping around and getting all worked up, then claiming it was Gawd because you got yourself sweaty. And they want to soak the world in this foolishness! They speak of the fulfillment of Joel 2:28-29, but guess where that already happened and never resembled the nonsense in that video? Read Acts 2. Peter said this is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel. What was happening with the Apostles and those establishing the church, not John And Carol Arnott. The Holy Spirit now pours on all who receive Christ in truth, by way of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in every believer, the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Learn About the Holy Spirit. What is taking place in that video is unbiblical!
See other details here of why Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship (TACF) is a cult. (Warning, you might want to turn your PC audio down before clicking that link or the link below.)
And it’s a rather protective cult too. When they get exposed too much, they take the person exposing them to court.
So if you’re ever in Toronto, you have one less place to worry about going to and can spend your time better elsewhere.
If you are one in disagreement with the content of this post, TAKE TIME TO STUDY THE INFORMATION LINKED IN THIS POST.
They say they’ve been “called” to do so!
60 Detroit ministers pledge their support to beleaguered Kilpatrick
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(Hat tip to Ron_B for the article.)
Now when someone can show me where the Lord Jesus or His Apostles stood in the way of a government prosecution I’ll agree with all 60 of those “ministers”. In scripture (THAT WOULD BE THE BIBLE WITH 66 BOOKS) it says government is SUPPOSED TO PROSECUTE EVIL, Romans 13:1-5 [click to expand link]. I am amazed at how America in many ways resembles Rome, but people claiming the Lord’s name won’t properly hold to what is in the letter God had Paul send to saints in Rome (the book of Romans in the Bible). And for you who desire to toss out the “judge not” line citing Romans 2. Go read it all, that was not about government prosecution, but rather people without Christ trying to pass godly judgment by use of Mosaic Law. Also it speaks against hypocritical judgment, judging what someone is doing themselves. The Jew can’t boast in the Law, all of them have broken it and need a savior (TO BELIEVE ON JESUS AS THE CHRIST, MESSIAH AND LORD) like we all do. This does not mean we ignore government being empowered BY GOD to prosecute people who do evil. And saints are to judge people who claim the Lord’s name, as to whether they are fit for association, 1 Corinthians 5.
Now a “minister” claiming he was “called” to stand with Kilpatrick in opposition to the prosecutorial efforts, not only means some or all of them stand with Kilpatrick in personal support. They feel God Himself has charged them to stand with Kilpatrick in his assertion of innocence. They are calling for an end to what is not just ordained by God in terms of a trial, but has EVIDENCE IN KILPATRICK’S OWN MESSAGES THAT HE’S NEVER DENIED ARE HIS MESSAGES.
And this disturbs me for even more reasons. Check out the videos below.
If this evidence was connected with Jeb Bush and that stripper was somebody paying them 10%, do you think the 60 mentioned above would be standing with Jeb Bush?
Ministers as a collective body giving political endorsements is bad enough, but what they are standing in opposition of here is something they should be staying out of. For any minister to claim they were “called” for such means they are hearing from something other than God. They need prayer, but not in support of their efforts.
Yea he probably lied and committed adultery, but WHAT ABOUT THE DEAD PEOPLE?!!!
“D-Day” in Detroit: Thuggish, Pan-Islamist Mayor Kwame “The Kingpin” Kilpatrick Learns His Fate; UPDATE: Hizzoner Kilpatrick Charged in 12-Count Felony Criminal Complaint
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And this video was just too funny not to include in this post.
I don’t know what they put in the water up in Detroit that has people supporting him, but I’m glad I’m not drinking it! There should already be a recall election under way, given he won’t leave on his own.
Given how Pulpit Pimps seem to be OK with them when being used on their behalf, I wanted to provide a bit more information about how credit cards have caused many of America’s current issues. And there’s plenty of blame to go around, but the bottom line is that America has a debt problem now from top to bottom. With the average consumer, credit cards are a major source and it started being big once our government made it easier for banks to practice usury.
usury Dictionary.com
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I hope you noticed definition #3. Once upon a time on planet earth, charging any interest on money loaned to someone else was the definition of usury. In time it has changed to being very high interest rates, which credit cards are for many.
Below is a video that details how the credit card industry started booming in America. Of course almost all of us have helped in that.
Under the old covenant the nation of Israel was forbidden to charge interest on loans to their own people. They could charge interest to people outside of their nation that they loaned money to. While we are not under the old covenant, the biblical definition of usury is still something to think about.
I’m having trouble finding biblical justification for Christians to engage in any sort of usury when I consider the following.
Matthew 5:42 (New American Standard Bible)
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I’ve found that scripture offers a very logical reason for nations to flat out ban usury. So I just want to share that with you, hoping perhaps the video helps drive the point home.
Nehemiah 5:1-13 (New American Standard Bible)
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Usury causes a nation to feed on its self, especially in times of financial crisis. Leaving the rich with everything and the rest struggling to eat. I’m not trying to have America “ban” all usury as the term is defined biblically. There were money changers when Jesus walked the earth in flesh and He didn’t turn over their tables when they operated outside the temple, He just didn’t allow them INSIDE. But I do find that America’s financial crisis becomes worse with more people owing more and government even owing more to foreign nations. And really our fiat currency system has gotten to a point where nobody having any loans would oddly result in America having less money or some say no money. It seems that it would be good practice by a government to keep interest rates under some sort of control. This does not mean I feel people with bad credit should get loans at the lowest rate or no interest rate, but perhaps people with bad credit would be better off if they were denied loans till they saved more?
Anyone without Christ is going to burn, but I’m just pondering this fine credit mess America is in. Because it’s becoming apparent to me that uncapped usury is not a good thing. And pulpit pimps only prove themselves to be vipers by participating in accepting credit cards for church donations.
Anyway, avoid debt as best you can.
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