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	<title>Comments on: US Senator Charles Grassley Says, I&#8217;m Giving You Dirty Rotten Pulpit Pimps One More Chance to do This the Easy Way!</title>
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		<title>By: GaryV</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/13/grassley_2nd_letters/comment-page-1/#comment-9211</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much better assessment Gator (are you a Steeler fan BTW??). I did the short form LOL!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much better assessment Gator (are you a Steeler fan BTW??). I did the short form LOL!!</p>
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		<title>By: speakingtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/13/grassley_2nd_letters/comment-page-1/#comment-9206</link>
		<dc:creator>speakingtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right IC - I DO blog to help the sheep. The stress release is just &quot;gravy&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right IC &#8211; I DO blog to help the sheep. The stress release is just &#8220;gravy&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SteelGator</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/13/grassley_2nd_letters/comment-page-1/#comment-9202</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary V - nice post.  Looking over your numbers, you were a little conservative.  They actually tithe $100+ more.  Look at this.

$5.15 per hour X 40 hours a week = $206.00 X 52 weeks in a year = $10,712 gross annual income X 10% (pimp tithe)= $1071.20 tithe over the year.  $1071.20 - $300 (pimp guilt ridden gift) = $771.20 in tithe after gift.  So you invest $1071.20 to get $300.  Thus, they are getting a -72% return on their contribution.  If stocks, bonds and/or mutual funds had this type of annual return, you better believe the SEC, FTC, and the rest of the Federal government would shut this investment vehicle and investment company down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary V &#8211; nice post.  Looking over your numbers, you were a little conservative.  They actually tithe $100+ more.  Look at this.</p>
<p>$5.15 per hour X 40 hours a week = $206.00 X 52 weeks in a year = $10,712 gross annual income X 10% (pimp tithe)= $1071.20 tithe over the year.  $1071.20 &#8211; $300 (pimp guilt ridden gift) = $771.20 in tithe after gift.  So you invest $1071.20 to get $300.  Thus, they are getting a -72% return on their contribution.  If stocks, bonds and/or mutual funds had this type of annual return, you better believe the SEC, FTC, and the rest of the Federal government would shut this investment vehicle and investment company down.</p>
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		<title>By: art123</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/13/grassley_2nd_letters/comment-page-1/#comment-9200</link>
		<dc:creator>art123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creflo Dollar gave a sermon I believe this week or last on how if you love God, you must obey His commandments.  You cannot love God with your emotions, but demonstrate it.  How as a so called minister say you love God and then rob your neighbor and to make it worse, not cooperate with the govenment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creflo Dollar gave a sermon I believe this week or last on how if you love God, you must obey His commandments.  You cannot love God with your emotions, but demonstrate it.  How as a so called minister say you love God and then rob your neighbor and to make it worse, not cooperate with the govenment.</p>
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		<title>By: speakingtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/13/grassley_2nd_letters/comment-page-1/#comment-9190</link>
		<dc:creator>speakingtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary V - you&#039;ve got to stop holding back. Just say whats on your heart :-)

You&#039;re making the mistake of looking at this from a logical perspective. The problem is that when many of us enter the church building, we leave our logic in the parking lot and adopt the mind of the pimp - as opposed to the mind of Christ. That way, he (the pimp) can shovel whatever he wants down our throats and we gladly eat it. We even defend his right to abuse us!

If this whole Congressional investigation does nothing else than make God&#039;s people truly evaluate how they give - and who they give to, then I believe that we&#039;ll adjust our focus and return to our First Love. And He&#039;ll be pleased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary V &#8211; you&#8217;ve got to stop holding back. Just say whats on your heart <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You&#8217;re making the mistake of looking at this from a logical perspective. The problem is that when many of us enter the church building, we leave our logic in the parking lot and adopt the mind of the pimp &#8211; as opposed to the mind of Christ. That way, he (the pimp) can shovel whatever he wants down our throats and we gladly eat it. We even defend his right to abuse us!</p>
<p>If this whole Congressional investigation does nothing else than make God&#8217;s people truly evaluate how they give &#8211; and who they give to, then I believe that we&#8217;ll adjust our focus and return to our First Love. And He&#8217;ll be pleased.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryV</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/13/grassley_2nd_letters/comment-page-1/#comment-9189</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi N&#039;Catina!! It&#039;s just such a shame. I hurt for these folks, I really do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi N&#8217;Catina!! It&#8217;s just such a shame. I hurt for these folks, I really do.</p>
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		<title>By: ncatina</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/13/grassley_2nd_letters/comment-page-1/#comment-9188</link>
		<dc:creator>ncatina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GaryV, that is a very good assessment.  For what I paid in tithes for the 4.5 years I was with my last church, I could have had a decent-sized down payment for the house that I am in now, instead of wasting $90/month on PMI and having to pay a higher interest rate, b/c I went w/full financing......fixed rate, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GaryV, that is a very good assessment.  For what I paid in tithes for the 4.5 years I was with my last church, I could have had a decent-sized down payment for the house that I am in now, instead of wasting $90/month on PMI and having to pay a higher interest rate, b/c I went w/full financing&#8230;&#8230;fixed rate, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryV</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/13/grassley_2nd_letters/comment-page-1/#comment-9187</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>300 bucks, ONE time a year IF you&#039;re a tither..........let&#039;s take a look at this from a fiscally responsible perspective.

Let&#039;s say the person in need is low income (naturally, or they wouldn&#039;t NEED help). So, what&#039;s 10% of minimum wage for a week?? $5.15 per hour x 40 hours = $206.00 - taxes = about $175.00 per week.

So, roughly an additional twenty dollars a week comes out of their check, now leaving them with $155.00 per week. 

That&#039;s $80 per month x 12 months = $960.00 per year for a net loss yearly $660.00 when they agree to give you $300. 

If they were JUST STINGY instead of outright CROOKS, they would give you back the $960.00 YOU PAID IN!!! But NOOOOOOOOOOOO.........they make $660.00 off you, then act like they&#039;re doing YOU a favor by giving you $300.00 back!! 

In the BIBLE (the one they ignore) the tithes were for GIVING to the poor, not for GETTING FROM the poor. The poor were EXEMPT from the tithe, and actually were SUPPOSED to be the RECIPIENTS of that money.

Hireling pimps..........I despise them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>300 bucks, ONE time a year IF you&#8217;re a tither&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.let&#8217;s take a look at this from a fiscally responsible perspective.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say the person in need is low income (naturally, or they wouldn&#8217;t NEED help). So, what&#8217;s 10% of minimum wage for a week?? $5.15 per hour x 40 hours = $206.00 &#8211; taxes = about $175.00 per week.</p>
<p>So, roughly an additional twenty dollars a week comes out of their check, now leaving them with $155.00 per week. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s $80 per month x 12 months = $960.00 per year for a net loss yearly $660.00 when they agree to give you $300. </p>
<p>If they were JUST STINGY instead of outright CROOKS, they would give you back the $960.00 YOU PAID IN!!! But NOOOOOOOOOOOO&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;they make $660.00 off you, then act like they&#8217;re doing YOU a favor by giving you $300.00 back!! </p>
<p>In the BIBLE (the one they ignore) the tithes were for GIVING to the poor, not for GETTING FROM the poor. The poor were EXEMPT from the tithe, and actually were SUPPOSED to be the RECIPIENTS of that money.</p>
<p>Hireling pimps&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.I despise them.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/13/grassley_2nd_letters/comment-page-1/#comment-9186</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/17/on_exposing_false_teachers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blog to help the sheep brother&lt;/a&gt; ;)  .

We were in a sad state and the Lord saved us.  We can&#039;t leave others to burn without trying to snatch them from the fire, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jude%201:22-23;&amp;version=49;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jude 1:22-23&lt;/a&gt;.

We desired to have our ears tickled and ran with myths that we called gospel, but were false, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Timothy%204:3-4;&amp;version=49;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2 Timothy 4:3-4&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/17/on_exposing_false_teachers/" rel="nofollow">Blog to help the sheep brother</a> <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   .</p>
<p>We were in a sad state and the Lord saved us.  We can&#8217;t leave others to burn without trying to snatch them from the fire, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jude%201:22-23;&amp;version=49;" rel="nofollow">Jude 1:22-23</a>.</p>
<p>We desired to have our ears tickled and ran with myths that we called gospel, but were false, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Timothy%204:3-4;&amp;version=49;" rel="nofollow">2 Timothy 4:3-4</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: speakingtruth</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/13/grassley_2nd_letters/comment-page-1/#comment-9185</link>
		<dc:creator>speakingtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To God be the glory. 

I was sinking in this mess, submitting to my pimp thinking God was pleased - and satisfying my flesh knowing that I was &quot;moving on up&quot; the ministry line, until God intervened.

I thank God every day (and I mean that literally) that He loved me enough to keep appealing to my heart - and showed me that foul Jezebel spirit so that I can truly see what the church is doing in His name. I can&#039;t truly relish in my freedom because there are so many who willingly submit to this apostasy every day.

I just blog to release the stress :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To God be the glory. </p>
<p>I was sinking in this mess, submitting to my pimp thinking God was pleased &#8211; and satisfying my flesh knowing that I was &#8220;moving on up&#8221; the ministry line, until God intervened.</p>
<p>I thank God every day (and I mean that literally) that He loved me enough to keep appealing to my heart &#8211; and showed me that foul Jezebel spirit so that I can truly see what the church is doing in His name. I can&#8217;t truly relish in my freedom because there are so many who willingly submit to this apostasy every day.</p>
<p>I just blog to release the stress <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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