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	<title>Comments on: CBS News Covers the Man Contrived Scam Against Saints Called &#8220;Church Tithing&#8221;.</title>
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		<title>By: ncatina</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/04/russ_kelly_tithe_cbs_news/comment-page-1/#comment-10483</link>
		<dc:creator>ncatina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, Airbrush and IC, that behavior is more the rule than the exception.  It clearly demonstrates that they were more interested in what you can do for them than vice versa as stories from many people on this subject prove time and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Airbrush and IC, that behavior is more the rule than the exception.  It clearly demonstrates that they were more interested in what you can do for them than vice versa as stories from many people on this subject prove time and again.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/04/russ_kelly_tithe_cbs_news/comment-page-1/#comment-10480</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s sad to hear a &quot;church&quot; didn&#039;t have many that cared enough to see how you&#039;re doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s sad to hear a &#8220;church&#8221; didn&#8217;t have many that cared enough to see how you&#8217;re doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Airbrush Artist</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/04/russ_kelly_tithe_cbs_news/comment-page-1/#comment-10478</link>
		<dc:creator>Airbrush Artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 Corinthians 9:7 (New American Standard Bible)

    7 Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 Corinthians 9:7 (New American Standard Bible)</p>
<p>    7 Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.</p>
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		<title>By: Airbrush Artist</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/04/russ_kelly_tithe_cbs_news/comment-page-1/#comment-10477</link>
		<dc:creator>Airbrush Artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m not in a church home right now, but God has led my family to give directly to an organization that feeds the homeless and kids. We will continue to give to them until God tells us otherwise. This to Me like Soldier, Is a &quot;True Tithe&quot;.I attended a Christian Church for 27 years,after 6 years without a church Home I still have not found a Church Home since leaving.Oh How so many times I struggled going on Sundays when I felt the pain of what I thought was not giving as I should,even at times too the point of private tears,You see, I&#039;m a Lifetime Financial failure..The church after building a new family Christian Center a year or so later once again called for sacrifices of its members to Pay off the interests on the loan for the Christian Center.As I sat in The sanctuary that Sunday I did not feel led of the Lord to participate as I watched Families and People testify to  what they have given up too be part of the call,That was My last Sunday there Its been 7 years and Only One friend called Me,My Sunday school teacher to ask How I was doing,No attempt was made By Elders Deacons or Minister to ask Why after 27 years I was gone so suddenly.The pain remains ,Yes I still struggle with Finances but one thing I realize in spite of My failures, God Still Loves me and there is a Purpose for It All...I believe this scripture of which I&#039;ve found solace should Direct each of Us----</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not in a church home right now, but God has led my family to give directly to an organization that feeds the homeless and kids. We will continue to give to them until God tells us otherwise. This to Me like Soldier, Is a &#8220;True Tithe&#8221;.I attended a Christian Church for 27 years,after 6 years without a church Home I still have not found a Church Home since leaving.Oh How so many times I struggled going on Sundays when I felt the pain of what I thought was not giving as I should,even at times too the point of private tears,You see, I&#8217;m a Lifetime Financial failure..The church after building a new family Christian Center a year or so later once again called for sacrifices of its members to Pay off the interests on the loan for the Christian Center.As I sat in The sanctuary that Sunday I did not feel led of the Lord to participate as I watched Families and People testify to  what they have given up too be part of the call,That was My last Sunday there Its been 7 years and Only One friend called Me,My Sunday school teacher to ask How I was doing,No attempt was made By Elders Deacons or Minister to ask Why after 27 years I was gone so suddenly.The pain remains ,Yes I still struggle with Finances but one thing I realize in spite of My failures, God Still Loves me and there is a Purpose for It All&#8230;I believe this scripture of which I&#8217;ve found solace should Direct each of Us&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: SteelGator</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/04/russ_kelly_tithe_cbs_news/comment-page-1/#comment-9090</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess someone should contact Meyers, Copeland at el.  Maybe, renting pews will pay for the &quot;high dollar&quot; attorneys they are going to need to deal with Senator Grassley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess someone should contact Meyers, Copeland at el.  Maybe, renting pews will pay for the &#8220;high dollar&#8221; attorneys they are going to need to deal with Senator Grassley.</p>
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		<title>By: SteelGator</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/04/russ_kelly_tithe_cbs_news/comment-page-1/#comment-9089</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apology accepted but I did it to myself.  I, just like a lot of Christians, use the name tithe out of habit.  We should use offering and I plan to do that in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apology accepted but I did it to myself.  I, just like a lot of Christians, use the name tithe out of habit.  We should use offering and I plan to do that in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/04/russ_kelly_tithe_cbs_news/comment-page-1/#comment-9048</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TBN pimps are still hoping to get things to that level.  They&#039;ve just about got everything except renting pews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TBN pimps are still hoping to get things to that level.  They&#8217;ve just about got everything except renting pews.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/04/russ_kelly_tithe_cbs_news/comment-page-1/#comment-9047</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for going at you like that brother, but you know if you say it I can&#039;t assume you used the wrong term :lol: .

There is s world of difference between the 2 terms as we know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for going at you like that brother, but you know if you say it I can&#8217;t assume you used the wrong term <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>There is s world of difference between the 2 terms as we know.</p>
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		<title>By: SteelGator</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/04/russ_kelly_tithe_cbs_news/comment-page-1/#comment-9044</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IC said.... (And cults are not Christian or “Catholic”, but that’s another topic. The cult of Mary that is called Roman Catholicism doing it first should help some realize it was made up and unbiblically contrived for MONEY. For more on the cult of Mary, see here and here.) 


You know how they raised their money.....Through renting out pews, selling indulgencies and scaring the pants off their parishioners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IC said&#8230;. (And cults are not Christian or “Catholic”, but that’s another topic. The cult of Mary that is called Roman Catholicism doing it first should help some realize it was made up and unbiblically contrived for MONEY. For more on the cult of Mary, see here and here.) </p>
<p>You know how they raised their money&#8230;..Through renting out pews, selling indulgencies and scaring the pants off their parishioners.</p>
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		<title>By: SteelGator</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/03/04/russ_kelly_tithe_cbs_news/comment-page-1/#comment-9043</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am studying the information provided.  I guess I used the word tithe, when I should be using free will offering.  I never said any church should be add burden of tithe, tax etc on a believer.  I know a guy that is a mult millionaire.  He does what he calls the &quot;reverse tithe&quot;.  In fact, he should just call it a &quot;free will&quot; offering.  He gives 90% of what he makes away to the poor and missionaries.  Even though, he uses the incorrect word tithe, I believe he is a cheerful and hilarious giver.

IC got all over me because I used the wrong word, tithe.  I should have used &quot;free will&quot; offering.  I believe this is what God wants.  I believe the Holy Spirit will guide a believer to the amount, how and when to give.

The church I belong to does not even take up a collection.  They put two boxes at the back of the sanctuary marked “offerings” and as the Lord leads, a believer cheerfully, not out of obligation gives.  This is what I was saying above and since I used the legalistic word tithe, I got bruised and battered. ….lol.  I really was not that far off what you guys have been saying all along.

I did cite Matthew 17:24-27 but not to say we must pay the temple tax.  I was just making this note.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am studying the information provided.  I guess I used the word tithe, when I should be using free will offering.  I never said any church should be add burden of tithe, tax etc on a believer.  I know a guy that is a mult millionaire.  He does what he calls the &#8220;reverse tithe&#8221;.  In fact, he should just call it a &#8220;free will&#8221; offering.  He gives 90% of what he makes away to the poor and missionaries.  Even though, he uses the incorrect word tithe, I believe he is a cheerful and hilarious giver.</p>
<p>IC got all over me because I used the wrong word, tithe.  I should have used &#8220;free will&#8221; offering.  I believe this is what God wants.  I believe the Holy Spirit will guide a believer to the amount, how and when to give.</p>
<p>The church I belong to does not even take up a collection.  They put two boxes at the back of the sanctuary marked “offerings” and as the Lord leads, a believer cheerfully, not out of obligation gives.  This is what I was saying above and since I used the legalistic word tithe, I got bruised and battered. ….lol.  I really was not that far off what you guys have been saying all along.</p>
<p>I did cite Matthew 17:24-27 but not to say we must pay the temple tax.  I was just making this note.</p>
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