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	<title>Comments on: If You are Married, God Joined it.  You Should Not Separate It.  And No One Should Claim God Did Not Join it.</title>
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		<title>By: Ineedanswers</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/20/god_joins_marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-8824</link>
		<dc:creator>Ineedanswers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you and God bless everyone who has responded to me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you and God bless everyone who has responded to me</p>
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		<title>By: GaryV</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/20/god_joins_marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-8822</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IC is absolutely right IMO. You HAVE to protect yourself. Frankly, this may be what it takes to bring your husband to repentance, but even if that is not the case you cannot continue to expose yourself to danger.

My prayers are with you Ineedanswers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IC is absolutely right IMO. You HAVE to protect yourself. Frankly, this may be what it takes to bring your husband to repentance, but even if that is not the case you cannot continue to expose yourself to danger.</p>
<p>My prayers are with you Ineedanswers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ineedanswers</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/20/god_joins_marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-8821</link>
		<dc:creator>Ineedanswers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I am afraid of-getting into trouble for something I had nothing to do with.

Thanks for the scripture-I honestly need it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I am afraid of-getting into trouble for something I had nothing to do with.</p>
<p>Thanks for the scripture-I honestly need it</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/20/god_joins_marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-8815</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Related verses to consider:
&lt;b&gt;Ephesians 5:11 (New American Standard Bible)&lt;/b&gt;
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 11 Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Also see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2010:34-39;&amp;version=49;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Matthew 10:34-39&lt;/a&gt;.  You are both to be married and remain so, however you have to stand for light and pray God brings him to repentance.  And sometimes that involves hard decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related verses to consider:<br />
<b>Ephesians 5:11 (New American Standard Bible)</b></p>
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 11 Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them;
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<p>Also see <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2010:34-39;&amp;version=49;" rel="nofollow">Matthew 10:34-39</a>.  You are both to be married and remain so, however you have to stand for light and pray God brings him to repentance.  And sometimes that involves hard decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/20/god_joins_marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-8813</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No you would not be wrong at all.  The Bible does not advise any saint to cover for criminal behavior.

And there is also the concern, that if he was caught without you turning him in, that you might be somehow accused of being into drugs yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No you would not be wrong at all.  The Bible does not advise any saint to cover for criminal behavior.</p>
<p>And there is also the concern, that if he was caught without you turning him in, that you might be somehow accused of being into drugs yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Ineedanswers</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/20/god_joins_marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-8805</link>
		<dc:creator>Ineedanswers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would I be wrong if I called the police on husband? He refuses to stop bringing drugs into our home and I have no where to go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would I be wrong if I called the police on husband? He refuses to stop bringing drugs into our home and I have no where to go</p>
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		<title>By: Ineedanswers</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/20/god_joins_marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-8757</link>
		<dc:creator>Ineedanswers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God bless you Godlysoldier and stan-this is the first time that I have written anything about my problems and I know that God 
directed me to this web site</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God bless you Godlysoldier and stan-this is the first time that I have written anything about my problems and I know that God<br />
directed me to this web site</p>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/20/god_joins_marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-8743</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some thoughts: Society has a vested interest in knowing that couples who co-habit are legally sanctioned to do so because all co-habiting is a matter of public record and interest. Society also has the same interest in knowing in what circumstance children are being born into and brought up in. Marriage is the only one that works, despite the flaws in the human beings who decide to make and run a family. These are why there are vows and witnesses to validate sexual union and co-habitation. These vows and witnesses help establish whether someone who enters marriage is truly available. This way, such violators as bigamists and philanderers are weeded out and ostracized/punished by society.   

Morally, legally and financially, unmarried people who enter into sexual union have no recourse to God or society to redress domestic problems that develop between them. Divorce is technically a &quot;remarriage certification,&quot; not just a permanent separation. As Gary above stated, separation is often an answer to extremely problematic marriages or where laws are being broken in the home. This is why Paul concedes that a Christian woman may have some occasion to leave her husband; but if she does, she must remain unmarried or be reconciled to him. The only exception that is different is if the unbelieving spouse leaves her. 

To Ineedanswers above, if you can find a temporary situation with family or friends who are willing to take you in on an indefinite basis, then it may be the thing to do. Or, depending on where you live, there may be shelters offered by social services or charitable agencies. But, do not seek a &quot;remarriage certification&quot; (Divorce). This would put you in danger of judgment from God (unless your husband, as the unbeliever, leaves, as was pointed out above).  

James 5:13 says, is any among you afflicted, let him pray. If you have a home church seek their counsel and prayer too. 

God tests the reins of our hearts in this life. The things we hope for as our &quot;paradise on earth&quot; can become a source of pain and trial. Our homes can become a battleground. Even Jesus says that 2 can be against 3 in a home, or a mother against a daughter-in-law. Because of Adam and Eve&#039;s sin, our world became this way because it was not God&#039;s original plan to curse us and our world. We must not have our hopes pinned to this world and this life. He alone is our hope. We are to pray for the days when His Will will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
Won&#039;t that be great when Jesus returns to bring us that answer? 

Pray for your husband and be kind to him, even if you find you need to leave; for, as Jesus says, this shows proof that you are a child of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some thoughts: Society has a vested interest in knowing that couples who co-habit are legally sanctioned to do so because all co-habiting is a matter of public record and interest. Society also has the same interest in knowing in what circumstance children are being born into and brought up in. Marriage is the only one that works, despite the flaws in the human beings who decide to make and run a family. These are why there are vows and witnesses to validate sexual union and co-habitation. These vows and witnesses help establish whether someone who enters marriage is truly available. This way, such violators as bigamists and philanderers are weeded out and ostracized/punished by society.   </p>
<p>Morally, legally and financially, unmarried people who enter into sexual union have no recourse to God or society to redress domestic problems that develop between them. Divorce is technically a &#8220;remarriage certification,&#8221; not just a permanent separation. As Gary above stated, separation is often an answer to extremely problematic marriages or where laws are being broken in the home. This is why Paul concedes that a Christian woman may have some occasion to leave her husband; but if she does, she must remain unmarried or be reconciled to him. The only exception that is different is if the unbelieving spouse leaves her. </p>
<p>To Ineedanswers above, if you can find a temporary situation with family or friends who are willing to take you in on an indefinite basis, then it may be the thing to do. Or, depending on where you live, there may be shelters offered by social services or charitable agencies. But, do not seek a &#8220;remarriage certification&#8221; (Divorce). This would put you in danger of judgment from God (unless your husband, as the unbeliever, leaves, as was pointed out above).  </p>
<p>James 5:13 says, is any among you afflicted, let him pray. If you have a home church seek their counsel and prayer too. </p>
<p>God tests the reins of our hearts in this life. The things we hope for as our &#8220;paradise on earth&#8221; can become a source of pain and trial. Our homes can become a battleground. Even Jesus says that 2 can be against 3 in a home, or a mother against a daughter-in-law. Because of Adam and Eve&#8217;s sin, our world became this way because it was not God&#8217;s original plan to curse us and our world. We must not have our hopes pinned to this world and this life. He alone is our hope. We are to pray for the days when His Will will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.<br />
Won&#8217;t that be great when Jesus returns to bring us that answer? </p>
<p>Pray for your husband and be kind to him, even if you find you need to leave; for, as Jesus says, this shows proof that you are a child of God.</p>
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		<title>By: godlysoldier</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/20/god_joins_marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-8742</link>
		<dc:creator>godlysoldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ineedanswers, I too will be keeping you and your husband in my prayers.  As we face trials and tribulations as christians, our comfort is in knowing that God will not put more on us than we can bare.  I too went through some things early in my marriage and I was determined that the enemy was NOT going to prevail.
The trial pushed me to my knees, intensified my prayer life and pushed me even closer to God.  I know it&#039;s hard, and we have the word to look to and comfort us, but in the midst of the battle, when the warfare is most heated, we must trust God, even when we can&#039;t trace Him. 

I do agree with GaryV in that your safety and health may be in jeopardy and you should do what&#039;s necessary to protect it.  Maybe separation and prayer will be what&#039;s needed in order for your husband&#039;s eyes to truly be opened and see that you love him but you are not going to continue down a destructive path that jeopardizes your well being and his soul.

I pray you seek wisdom and sound counsel that can give you spiritual, emotional and if need be, physical support.  My heart truly goes out to you and I will be praying that all things will work out together for good in your situation.  May God&#039;s will prevail in your situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ineedanswers, I too will be keeping you and your husband in my prayers.  As we face trials and tribulations as christians, our comfort is in knowing that God will not put more on us than we can bare.  I too went through some things early in my marriage and I was determined that the enemy was NOT going to prevail.<br />
The trial pushed me to my knees, intensified my prayer life and pushed me even closer to God.  I know it&#8217;s hard, and we have the word to look to and comfort us, but in the midst of the battle, when the warfare is most heated, we must trust God, even when we can&#8217;t trace Him. </p>
<p>I do agree with GaryV in that your safety and health may be in jeopardy and you should do what&#8217;s necessary to protect it.  Maybe separation and prayer will be what&#8217;s needed in order for your husband&#8217;s eyes to truly be opened and see that you love him but you are not going to continue down a destructive path that jeopardizes your well being and his soul.</p>
<p>I pray you seek wisdom and sound counsel that can give you spiritual, emotional and if need be, physical support.  My heart truly goes out to you and I will be praying that all things will work out together for good in your situation.  May God&#8217;s will prevail in your situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ineedanswers</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/20/god_joins_marriages/comment-page-1/#comment-8741</link>
		<dc:creator>Ineedanswers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad I found this blog and I thank you both. This is a nightmare and I am going to really take what you said serious. He just wants to blame me for everything and I am tired.

I agree about the Aids, which has me really scared. I can no longer commit to him in that manner.

Thank God, we have no chidlren but he has a 14 year old son he has custody of that he sent to live with his mother because he could not care for 
him and I demanded that he did.

He just doesn&#039;t want to take responsibility and I can&#039;t do my part and his</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad I found this blog and I thank you both. This is a nightmare and I am going to really take what you said serious. He just wants to blame me for everything and I am tired.</p>
<p>I agree about the Aids, which has me really scared. I can no longer commit to him in that manner.</p>
<p>Thank God, we have no chidlren but he has a 14 year old son he has custody of that he sent to live with his mother because he could not care for<br />
him and I demanded that he did.</p>
<p>He just doesn&#8217;t want to take responsibility and I can&#8217;t do my part and his</p>
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