All that is left of the 2 major party candidates are terrible, but here’s some things regarding the 2 current front runners. The 2 most likely to win their respective party’s nomination.
The idolatry over Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is rather insane.
If any of them claims to be a Christian, they need to read 1 Corinthians 10:14 and calm their nerves, he’s only a man. (If they are not Christians, they still need to calm down and learn about the Lord Jesus.)
Obama, the supposed man of faith, but what about the babies?
Then there is John Sidney McLame McCain III. Watch him flip flop on efforts to have government give special sanction to an abomination.
On a 2004 questionnaire McCain affirmed he feels homosexuals should be granted “civil unions”. McCain is trying to play both sides of the issue. Saying he is against gay “marriage”, yet he’s trying to grant all like benefits and recognition via a play on words.
And what about the babies Senator McCain?
Just like Mitt Romney who has endorsed him. His position on the issue changes depending on the likelihood of whatever he says winning him votes.
Just speaking for myself, I can’t vote for anything the Democrats or Republicans have left to offer.
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February 19th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Good post. Both of them are bad, but Obama will be worse for the Christian cause.
He admits to being a racist. His church is a pro-black, anti-white congregation. His church
is just like the KKK but reversed. Obama is anti-American with socialist/communist leanings.
He refuses to put his hand over his heart while the National Anthem is played, and he promotes the
slaughter of millions of children annually.
McLame is still the same old McLame from the last 10 years. He is still a war hero and pro American.
With political pressure, he will put strict constructionists on the Supreme Court and Roe v Wade
will be overturned. He is not a free market capitalist, but he sure is not a socialist like
Hilldabeast and/or Obama.
If Christians care about stopping the slaughter of innocent children, they have no choice but to vote for
McLame. If you vote 3rd party or stay home, we will lose the Supreme Court for another 30-40 years.
Obama is the black version of Lenin. He will use whatever power he has (police powers if need be) to
put forth his agenda.
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 1:22 pm :
SteelGator - I didn’t see you around for a bit and figured I’d post something to get you out of your shell
.
While Obama’s church assembly membership (if you want to call it that) has been noted here before, I want you to cite me a source on this claim you made:
You’re going to have to prove that claim brother.
McLame won’t do what you claim he’ll do, but it’s not like he’s never fooled you before.
Gxg--G2 reply on February 19th, 2008 at 1:45 pm :
Thought it was pretty widespread what Obama did:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxfvxKBXRM4&eurl=http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/barack-obama-refused-to-say-the-pledge-of-allegiance-youve-been-played-for-
http://illegalprotest.com/2007/10/28/barack-obama-should-not-be-allowed-to-run-for-president/
Of course, others are saying that it didn’t happen.
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 1:55 pm :
I guess SteelGator was correct. Thank you Gxg.
That is shocking.
And whoever was singing should never be allowed near a mic again
!
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 2:10 pm :
They don’t teach you to put your hand on your chest during singing of the US anthem at the madrassas
!
And that singer, she should not even be allowed to sing Happy Birthday!
February 19th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Was the singing that vexing, Brah?
Either way, I agree. The video was shocking…..and it’s nothing short of amazing witnessing how many things have been allowed to happen in this election that are blantantly against the law. I brought it up before with the ELECTIONERING, where it was illegal for cannidates to go to churches to gather support as Mike Hucakabee and others did (HAGEE, Copeland)…and how it seems that they were bending the law, such as Obama getting Christian artist for the “Gospel” tour (even though that technically would be illegal, IMHO, but mabye I’m off)…..
By the way, honestly……..I think Obama will be the next president. Be a pretty interesting way for the End Times to go down, where we finally gto a Black President (lol)
February 19th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
That person shouldn’t even be called a “singer”, oh my ears still hurt! But yes, my husband too has gotten caught up in the “Obama hype”…and that’s all it is HYPE! I WILL NOT be voting for either party…I may just write my own name in there, at least I know that my moral standards are more credible and godly than McCain and Obama.
The blessing truly is that God already knows who will be elected in office and that all things will truly work together for good to those that love God and are called according to His purpose. My resolve is to pray for whomever is elected and that God’s will be done on earth as it is in heaven. We know that in these last days all kind of calamity is coming upon the nation and the stage is being set for the anti-christ. The true body of Christ are those that are not caught sleeping when Jesus returns and are busy about our Father’s business…occupying until He comes, watching and warning as many as we can that Jesus is coming back, no matter who’s in office or what the world economy is doing, we better keep our eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith.
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 2:32 pm :
Well said.
And if you do run for President, I’ll send you a fresh $20 bill
. That would be the most I’ve ever sent a Presidential candidate 
. Given my prior donations of a consistent 0.
godlysoldier reply on February 19th, 2008 at 2:39 pm :
LOL! A “BLACK WOMAN” as president…Jesus truly is coming back, as a matter of fact, I think I see the clouds parting right now…do you hear the trumpet…
Oh, and you can put that $20 in my paypal account…LOL!
February 19th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
IC: I took the weekend off the internet. I closed my business yesterday in honor of “Presidents Day” and spent the day with the wife and my son.
Real quick question to my black Christian brothers and sisters. What is the deal with MOST (not all) blacks always supporting the same socialist candidates time and time again. I know a great deal of whites, Hispanics and Asians always happen to support the liberal democratic candidate, but why is the percentage of blacks voting democrat so darn high, year in and year out? All of my black friends, all of them happen to be conservative, don’t get it either. They are just fed up with the same race pimps spouting the same garbage that I am sick of. One of my conservative black friends got ran out of the democratic party in the mid 1980s because he voted for Reagan. Thus, he was branded an “Uncle Tom” and called terrible names.
I would support a black president and/or a black woman president as long as they were conservative. Janice Rogers Brown comes to mind. I would love the opportunity for this “white boy” to vote for this fantastic black woman.
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 4:33 pm :
Because many Blacks were misled into thinking that reworking wealth distribution would somehow make their lives better.
Grades schools should start teaching economics classes again.
I’ll see if Ron_B wants to address your question too. He makes a mission out of questions like yours.
SteelGator reply on February 19th, 2008 at 4:48 pm :
IC: I understand. The New Deal turned out to be a Bad Deal for everyone. However, in today’s information superhighway, there is no reason for a smart hard working black (or any other race) to fall for this lie. The democrats keep espousing the lie and most black folks fall for it hook, line and sinker. The redistribution of wealth has done nothing for minorities in this country. In fact, I can make the case (and others can too) that it in fact keeps lower income folks down for generations upon generations. Democrats don’t liberate minorities. ..in fact, they enslave them to a life of poverty, and dependence upon the government to survive.
There are a great number of awesome black conservative educators, thinkers, businessmen and politicians but it seems like the black community wants to shun these individuals and write them off as a “house slaves”. Walter Williams, JC Watts, Michael Steele, Thomas Sowell, Ward Connorly, Clarence Thomas…..I could go on and on.
Also, it seems like the majority of blacks are going to line up to vote for Obama because he is black. Why won’t they line up to vote for Michael Steele (Maryland)? Lynn Swann (PA)? Ken Blackwell (OH)? Alan Keyes (Nationally)?
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 5:20 pm :
You’re kind of going in a circle now. You see the socialism and then ask why Blacks don’t endorse a Conservative.
It’s kind of an “optimal candidate” situation. Socialist and Black, which is why Obama is so adored.
But remember, Whites can NEVER vote based on race, that would be RACIST
.
SteelGator reply on February 19th, 2008 at 5:51 pm :
You got that right about Whites….lol. If you look at most elections, whites split between democrats and republicans. Hispanics split down the middle and so do asians. Blacks by a margin of like 89% to 90% vote for democrats. Why don’t they vote for black conservatives? If people want to vote for someone because of race, more power to them. However, why not vote for a conservative of that race? If all these other races pretty much
February 19th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
IC: I am not sure what McLame will do or not do. Remember, it was the American people that stood up to Congress and President Bush on the immigration issue. We won because we put pressure on them. We can do the same to McLame on judges and other issues.
With Obama, we know what this socialist wants to do. He wants to tax us into oblivion and give the money to the UN to spend. He wants to continue to keep it legal to slaughter millions of children each year. He supports “gay marriage”. One thing I got to say about Obama is he is real. He tells you up front that he is a socialist. Unlike Hilldabeast, that tries to hide her real views.
Godly soldier….Is your husband a Christian? If so, how can he fall for the Obama hype?
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 4:37 pm :
We didn’t “win” on the illegal immigration issue. Those borders are still rather open and that promised fence not built. Yea, it will be the same with McLame, judges and other issues. The same bag of empty promises.
SteelGator reply on February 19th, 2008 at 4:49 pm :
Ok…we didn’t win the war but we won a battle, and we have to keep on battling if we want to win.
SteelGator reply on February 19th, 2008 at 4:54 pm :
Remember, we (the people) had to pressure Bush into picking Judge Roberts, Alito etc. McLame did vote to confirm, Scalia, Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and the VERY CONSERVATIVE Judge Robert Bork!!
With Obama or Hilldabeast, we have no shot at taking back the Supreme Court. With McLame, we at least got a chance.
We, as Christians, must try to stand for the rights of the unborn. If we throw away our vote, we are turning our back on the most indefensible among us.
The majority of Americans were against the Revolution. It only took a small group of fearless men (with God’s help) to make this great nation.
SteelGator reply on February 19th, 2008 at 4:57 pm :
I didnt mean indefensible…..I meant the most innocent!
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 5:16 pm :
I don’t see voting my conscience as a wasted vote. I see endorsing an already proven failure as the real waste.
The only good that would come from Obama winning, would be that I would not have to hear you trying to defend McCain (in a re-election bid) after he flip-flops for 4 years straight if he wins
.
SteelGator reply on February 19th, 2008 at 5:41 pm :
IC: You should know me by now. I don’t defend the indefensible. If McLame make mistakes and I know he will, I will be the first to jump on his case.
He is better than Obama or Hillary. If you vote for a third party, you are just allowing the liberals to control the Supreme Court for another 30-40 years. Oh well, I guess the killing of babies is ok with you.
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 5:50 pm :
SteelGator - You’re getting rather lame, LIKE THE CANDIDATE YOU ARE ENDORSING.
If you wanted to be in McLame’s case, you’d already not endorse him given all I’ve already provided you here and previously.
Like I told you before, if McCain loses, you can blame me, blame people who don’t vote, blame everyone but the LAME candidate you support.
With killing babies, go ask your man what he’s OK with, he pulled the gang of 14 stunt and killed the pipeline of Conservative judges that would be in line, not me. And you think he won’t come soft if he had the pick. Hey, it’s your vote, but don’t go thinking back handed comments will win you mine.
godlysoldier reply on February 19th, 2008 at 8:00 pm :
Yes, he’s a Christian, but he is taking the road that a lot of other christians are as voting for the lesser of the two evils, or simply “voting for the ‘black man’
I told him what Obama REALLY stands for in regards to political and moral issues, but again, he’s caught up in the “change-first-black-man-just-support-him-because-he’s-black-and-no-woman-should-be-running-a-country-thang!”
Of course he doesn’t feel McCain should be president due to his “100 year war issue”, so who’s left for him, Obama.
Well, I respect whomever he wishes to vote for, that’s his right and that’s between him and God. I however am NOT falling for the “change okeydoke.” I cannot consciously vote for anyone that blatantly condones homosexuality, abortion and other socialistic views. At the end of the day, my conscious has to line up with the Word, and I’m not putting any christian down that chooses to vote for any of these candidates…I only have to live with my conscious.
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 8:43 pm :
Honestly, I don’t understand why anyone allows McCain’s “100 years” line to bother them one itty bit. If McCain won, his max time in office would be 8 years. Him saying 100 years or 100 Bazillion years means nothing. (It’s just him pandering.) He’s got about 20 years max in this world if the Lord wills.
And regarding Obama and Iraq, his stance really is not as clear as some people might think! Obama is a flippin and a floppin right along with McCain.
godlysoldier reply on February 19th, 2008 at 8:52 pm :
I concur…
SteelGator reply on February 20th, 2008 at 1:15 pm :
Thanks for your post godlysoldier. I think a lot of people are falling for the Obama hype. Obama is an evil socialist that hates America. In law school he (and Hillary) snuggled up to the Communist and Marxist professors. If you listen to his speeches, he just talks about hope and unity, blah, blah, blah. How can a racist bring unity? Anyway, the only one that will bring peace and unity is the “Prince of Peace”, Jesus. If Obama wins, he might actually make Jimmy Carter look like he was a good President. Obama really has not said anything. When he does, it sounds the he is reading from the Communist manifesto. Obama is as secular humanist as all the other liberal socialists and communists. This is scary because in their “heart of hearts” they want to take God out of society so that government can fill this void. This is what has happened in every single Communist nation. If Obama gets in, we are on the fast track to losing our freedoms, including the right to worship Our God in the manner He wants us to.
I pray your husband will change his mind.
godlysoldier reply on February 20th, 2008 at 5:41 pm :
Yes SteelGator, I was looking at his speech on CNN last night and it was the same rhetoric over and over…on the surface, it does seem to “tickle” the ear of the voter, lower taxes, universal health care…blah…blah…blah, but to us than can “go deeper” and read between the lines, it’s the same old feel “good speech to get into office” so that his TRUE nature and agenda can be revealed. I too am praying that the “scales” will fall from my husbands eyes and the “dullness” from his hearing concerning Obama.
Thank you for you prayers!
February 19th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
IC:
Good article by Oliver North.
http://www.cwfpac.com/pressReleaseArticle.php?id=08021401
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 4:38 pm :
Tell old Oli to stick to the war stories
.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
IC….Got to admit that Olie made some good points.
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 5:12 pm :
Republicans are pulling out the stops to try and convince everyone to endorse a lame-o. You’re all making a great case to each other.
Not budging me one bit.
February 19th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Tell you what, Brah….
When the anti-Christ or whoever in this election you don’t agree with comes on the scene, catch me either somewhere in the Caribbean (i.e. Jamaica, Barbados, etc), Panama or somewher in Central America with my blood relatives……..and the rest of ya’ll can chill down here in the states/discuss whether or not you’ll vote Republican or Democrat (Lol, lol)
February 19th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Good article by Gary Bauer.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20080212/EDITORIAL/523327391/1013
IndependentConservative reply on February 19th, 2008 at 5:41 pm :
Good word for McCain, LAME.
February 20th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Good read from Neal Boortz’s webpage.
http://boortz.com/nuze/200802/02202008.html#commie
Shows that Obama’s mentor was a communist.
I don’t see why anyone would vote for a commie, even if he is black!
February 20th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Another link showing that Hillary and Bill will have their court date set for their involvement in Paul v. Clinton.
http://www.peterfpaul.com/
This woman is truly evil.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:24 pm
My mother just sent me an email link showing that the KKK is backing Obama…makes for a very interesting read. I’ve got to figure out how to insert the link….
IndependentConservative reply on February 21st, 2008 at 10:41 pm :
godlysoldier, that e-mail is a hoax.
godlysoldier reply on February 21st, 2008 at 11:40 pm :
okay…thanks for clarifying…should’ve know it would be a cold day in …. before the KKK would back a black man.