Bottom line, 2 witnesses say Roger Clemens used HGH. Roger Clemens claims he never used it, oh but his wife did. I think Clemens is a liar, lied under oath and should be appropriately prosecuted.
Clemens denies he ever used steroids
WASHINGTON - Roger Clemens and Brian McNamee both were pressed during extensive questioning at Wednesday’s congressional hearing on the Mitchell Report.
Clemens maintained his vehement stance in front of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, denying McNamee’s claims that he injected the star pitcher with performance-enhancing drugs.
McNamee, Clemens’ former trainer, revealed in the Mitchell Report that he injected the seven-time Cy Young Award winner with steroids and human growth hormone at least 16 times between 1998 and 2001.
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Clemens’ former teammate and training partner, Pettitte said in an affidavit that Clemens admitted to using HGH in a conversation which occurred 10 years ago.
Rather than attacking Pettitte’s testimony, Clemens danced around the issue, constantly saying that the New York Yankees lefthander “misremembered” the context of their conversation.
“Andy Pettitte is my friend,” Clemens said. “He was my friend before this. He will be my friend after this. I think Andy has misheard - I think he misremembers our conversation.”
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“Somebody’s not telling the truth today,” added Mark Souder, an Indiana Republican. “It’s better not to talk about the past than to lie about the past.”
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Both Clemens and McNamee could potentially face perjury charges if either were to be found guilty of lying during the hearing, a fact that several committee members harped on.
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Has Roger Clemens been contemplating a run for public office? That “I think Andy has misheard - I think he misremembers our conversation.” line sounds just like some of the stuff I’ve heard politicians saying when they are asked direct questions.
Some might claim Brian McNamee is not a man of the highest moral character, given some events in his past, but he’s been on point with other claims regarding who used HGH. Let’s remember, Roger Clemens has 2 witnesses against him, not just McNamee.
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Pettitte, who spent the last nine seasons as a teammate of Clemens with the Yankees and Houston Astros, also was named in the Mitchell Report by McNamee, who said he injected the two-time All-Star with HGH on two occasions. Pettitte later admitted that he had used HGH twice while injured in 2002.
Pettitte also issued a statement hours prior to Wednesday’s hearing, admitting that he also used HGH in 2004. The lefthander spoke to committee lawyers under oath last week, providing a sworn deposition that coincided with many of McNamee’s claims.
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McNamee said Andy Pettitte did it and Pettitte admits he did.
So with Clemens speaking against both Pettitte and McNamee, he’s claiming one guy “misheard” in Pettitte and what would be McNamee’s motive for saying things that have him standing in a congressional hearing? McNamee has nothing to gain from implicating Clemens.
I believe 2 witnesses over 1 who has everything to gain from lying.
McNamee saved materials used when injecting Clemens, but given those syringes were not kept under a tight police-style level of security. So it might not be admissible in court. Still, it shows McNamee is doing much to prove his claim. Also congress wanted to speak to Roger Clemens’ former nanny about this matter, but guess who got to her before she could be interviewed? Roger Clemens.
Ex-teammates, former nanny may hurt Clemens
The private testimony of two ex-teammates and a former nanny undercuts famed pitcher Roger Clemens’ public insistence that he never used banned drugs.
Moments after Clemens and his chief accuser, former trainer Brian McNamee, finished a 4 1/2-hour grilling by skeptical lawmakers at a nationally televised hearing Wednesday, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee released documents that cast new doubts on the seven-time Cy Young Award winner’s claim that he is the victim of an elaborate frame-up.
Meanwhile, a deposition from a nanny who cared for Clemens’ four sons a decade ago suggested to Committee Chair Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, that Clemens may have been trying to orchestrate the testimony of other committee witnesses in hopes of discrediting McNamee.
In sworn depositions this month, former New York Yankees Andy Pettitte and Chuck Knoblauch both testified that McNamee, whom Clemens’ legal team has portrayed as a reckless liar, told the truth when he described injecting them with human growth hormone.
Pettitte, whom Clemens described to lawmakers as “a very honest fellow,” told congressional investigators Feb. 4 that Clemens had admitted to him in a 1999 conversation that he used human growth hormone, according to the documents, which lawmakers repeatedly alluded to during the hearing.
In his testimony, Pettitte portrayed McNamee as an honest man who had given investigators a truthful account of Pettitte’s own foray into the use of growth hormone to rehabilitate an elbow injury in 2002.
And Pettitte said that when he reminded Clemens of their conversation about growth hormone in 2005, Clemens said that it was his wife, Debbie, who had used the drugs, not himself.
For his part, Knoblauch said McNamee told the truth when he described Knoblauch’s use of human growth hormone at a time the infielder was struggling with a problem with his throwing motion. Knoblauch said he knew nothing about Clemens’ use of banned drugs, but his testimony, like Pettitte’s, raised questions that Clemens told lawmakers he could not really answer: Why would McNamee tell outrageous lies about Clemens while telling the absolute truth about his Yankee teammates?
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The nanny, whose name was redacted from her deposition, told investigators she did not recall Clemens being present at a 1998 party at the Miami home of slugger and admitted steroid user Jose Canseco, who then was Clemens’ teammate on the Toronto Blue Jays. At the time, Clemens’ family was staying at Canseco’s home while the Blue Jays were in town to play the Florida Marlins.
In a statement during former Sen. George Mitchell’s probe into what is called baseball’s steroid era, McNamee said Clemens huddled with Canseco at the party, then asked to be injected with banned performance-enhancing drugs. Clemens had adamantly denied going to the party, and his legal team claimed that McNamee was lying about the event to buttress other aspects of his false story about Clemens and drugs.
But in her deposition, the nanny also said she met with Clemens last Sunday at his Houston home at his request to discuss her testimony - at a time when lawmakers were trying to locate her for an interview and before Clemens made her whereabouts known. It was the first time she had seen Clemens in seven years, she said. Clemens told her to “tell the truth” to Congress, she said, but he also told her “the reason that you don’t remember a party is because I wasn’t there.”
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Now why would Roger Clemens need to meet with the nanny nobody could find, to tell her to “tell the truth” and “I wasn’t there”? Seems like he prepped her to me. Although Clemens claims he was doing his part to help the investigation. He should have told them where to find her and not met with her himself if he wanted to help. Obviously he knew how to reach her better than others.
Now I feel Clemens is guilty even without him being indicted, but I suspect I’ll have far less people complaining about me speaking about Roger Clemens, than those who were upset I spoke about Barry Bonds even after he was indicted. It’s just so amazing how the people who speak up for Barry will probably be silent or far less vigorous with defending Clemens and probably never speak in defense of someone like Lance Armstrong. I always felt Lance was up to no good too. Even Lance’s former friends say he was dirty. And what if steroids were the cause of Lance Armstrong’s cancer?
I would not mind if all the names I’ve mentioned joined Marion Jones behind bars. Of course Lance would have to do his time in a French prison
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It’s sad there are so many cheaters, but seeing selective outrage is always interesting too.
February 14th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Who cares….We got more pressing issues to be concerned about. What is Congress wasting their time on this. How about the war against the Islamofacists? How about cutting spending and balancing the budget? How about shutting down American boarders?
Clemens perjured himself? Why should he go to jail. Hillary Clinton perjured herself when she said she did not know where the “Rose Law Firm Files” were. They were sitting in her office. Billyboy perjured himself in front of a Grand Jury and he did not go to jail. If Hilldabeast and Slick Willie get off why should Clemens not expect the same for him?
IndependentConservative reply on February 14th, 2008 at 3:39 pm :
They all should be prosecuted then. And even if the Clinton’s are never prosecuted, it does not mean Clemens should likewise get off. Let’s just let everyone who lies under oath off then? That road leads to an illogical conclusion.
Clemens probably lied and it should be addressed. Who was saying “we have better things to tend to” when Barry Bonds was speaking to Congress? Not many people at all were saying that then, but it seems to be the talk radio tag line now that Roger Clemens has been questioned.
Like it or not, the hearings have already taken place. Your money and their time in that regard is already spent. So if someone lied, it should not go ignored.
Perhaps I’ll go to court, lie and say “well you let Hillary off”
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February 14th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
You got my point….I was just being “tongue and cheek”. Hillary should pay…Clemens should pay and Big Bad Barry Bonds should pay if he lied.
In fact, a guy here in Florida tried to go to court and get off using the “Clinton lied” defense. Needless to say, the judge got mad (the judge was probably some bleeding heart liberal) and nailed the guy to the wall. The judge cited that her perjury was before Congress (for Hillary) so there was no precedent set. He also said in Billyboy’s case, it was a Federal investigation not a state investigation so no precedent was set there either.
The Rule of Law must apply to all parties. However, if some get away (Bill and Hilldabeast) then precedent has been set for others to commit perjury and get away with it.
I could care less if steroids are used in pro sports. If these guys want to shrink their grown up parts then let them. If they want to use steroids until their heart fails (Lyle Alzado of the Raiders) let them. If they want to waste the life God gave them, then so be it. I am sick of these multimillionaire wanna be gangsta babies. They act like they are entitled to something. I also love how these athletes/entertainers get Jesus only after their career is over and they spent all their cash (ala MC Hammer). What a freaking joke.
At least Congress was busy with Clemens today and not raising my taxes.
Airbrush Artist reply on February 14th, 2008 at 5:41 pm :
Who Cares about Baseball.They lost me in 1994 when they deprived us all of the game,As far as Clemens I’d say anyone stupid enough to let His wife be injected by liar who is is not even a Doctor get what they deserve,I was stuck t Home under the weather and I always like to watch proceedings when Liars are confronted with the truth and it was pitiful to watch.more than watching these fools to think that a baseball Players demands $340 million dollars to Play the game is actually worst than Drughead cheaters..
IndependentConservative reply on February 14th, 2008 at 9:56 pm :
It is interesting how some lose it all and suddenly claim to follow Jesus, but for some it is sincere. Not saying what I think of buddy of TBN “MC Hammer” though.
For some, God does use taking their possessions as a means to humble them before Himself, but some simply act like they are following Christ for new fan fare.