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	<title>Comments on: Paula White, New Year, Same Scam!  The First Fruits Works Scam.</title>
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		<title>By: godlysoldier</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/12/paula_white_first_fruits/comment-page-1/#comment-8609</link>
		<dc:creator>godlysoldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN, AMEN!!!</description>
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		<title>By: ncatina</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/12/paula_white_first_fruits/comment-page-1/#comment-8608</link>
		<dc:creator>ncatina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent comment and assessment, Stan...very well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent comment and assessment, Stan&#8230;very well said.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/12/paula_white_first_fruits/comment-page-1/#comment-8607</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Stan.</description>
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		<title>By: stan</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/12/paula_white_first_fruits/comment-page-1/#comment-8606</link>
		<dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The great success of such false teachers is attributable to the greed in their supporters. God allows their work to go on in order to weed out those who do not love Him with their whole hearts.

Remember that it is those with the itching ears who gather to themselves these teachers. That is what 2 Timothy 4:3 says: &lt;i&gt;For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, &lt;b&gt;they&lt;/b&gt; will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.&lt;/i&gt;

Those of us who were supporters of such people (mea culpa) were, at one time, seeking improper things from God. It is that lust that God caused us to repent of. Once that happened, we fled the stranger&#039;s voice. Now, with clean hearts, we find them repugnant; for they are. For my part, I take my repentance as ongoing evidence of the sanctifying work of the Spirit in my life. For, His main task is to lead us away from our sinful flesh. That is what Romans 8:12-14 shows us about His leading. 

Also, James is clear that we have not because we ask not. And, if we still do not receive, we are asking amiss. Having greed as our motive to receive is asking amiss. It is also double-mindedness as James points out in the first chapter about asking for wisdom in faith. He says not to let that man think he shall receive anything of the Lord. Greed causes us to be double-minded. Knowing this &quot;plague of our hearts,&quot; (1 Kings 8:38), greed, we turn to these man-made manipulations in an attempt to secure from God those things that He has denied otherwise. Of course, greed darkens our hearts to the truth that we are mocking Him and that He, being the omniscient God, is not fooled by our &quot;tithing&quot; and &quot;first-fruits giving&quot; or any other bribe or flattery. As long as we seek according to our lusts, He will allow strong delusions to be paraded in front of us through these clever-tongued con-men and women to see if we will go with them.

Jesus told us to watch out and beware of every form of greed (Luke 12:15). We cannot beware of what we do not recognize. God help us all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great success of such false teachers is attributable to the greed in their supporters. God allows their work to go on in order to weed out those who do not love Him with their whole hearts.</p>
<p>Remember that it is those with the itching ears who gather to themselves these teachers. That is what 2 Timothy 4:3 says: <i>For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, <b>they</b> will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.</i></p>
<p>Those of us who were supporters of such people (mea culpa) were, at one time, seeking improper things from God. It is that lust that God caused us to repent of. Once that happened, we fled the stranger&#8217;s voice. Now, with clean hearts, we find them repugnant; for they are. For my part, I take my repentance as ongoing evidence of the sanctifying work of the Spirit in my life. For, His main task is to lead us away from our sinful flesh. That is what Romans 8:12-14 shows us about His leading. </p>
<p>Also, James is clear that we have not because we ask not. And, if we still do not receive, we are asking amiss. Having greed as our motive to receive is asking amiss. It is also double-mindedness as James points out in the first chapter about asking for wisdom in faith. He says not to let that man think he shall receive anything of the Lord. Greed causes us to be double-minded. Knowing this &#8220;plague of our hearts,&#8221; (1 Kings 8:38), greed, we turn to these man-made manipulations in an attempt to secure from God those things that He has denied otherwise. Of course, greed darkens our hearts to the truth that we are mocking Him and that He, being the omniscient God, is not fooled by our &#8220;tithing&#8221; and &#8220;first-fruits giving&#8221; or any other bribe or flattery. As long as we seek according to our lusts, He will allow strong delusions to be paraded in front of us through these clever-tongued con-men and women to see if we will go with them.</p>
<p>Jesus told us to watch out and beware of every form of greed (Luke 12:15). We cannot beware of what we do not recognize. God help us all!</p>
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		<title>By: truthintheselastdays</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/12/paula_white_first_fruits/comment-page-1/#comment-8593</link>
		<dc:creator>truthintheselastdays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad is sucked into this firstfruits scam. I recently bought a new laptop, and he flipped since I hadn&#039;t payed my &quot;firstfruits&quot; to my pastor - bearing in mind, I&#039;m a Reformed Baptist and my pastor doesn&#039;t teach it. It&#039;s rather sickening the way that they go on, pining for our God-given, hard-earned money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad is sucked into this firstfruits scam. I recently bought a new laptop, and he flipped since I hadn&#8217;t payed my &#8220;firstfruits&#8221; to my pastor &#8211; bearing in mind, I&#8217;m a Reformed Baptist and my pastor doesn&#8217;t teach it. It&#8217;s rather sickening the way that they go on, pining for our God-given, hard-earned money</p>
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		<title>By: pookie</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/12/paula_white_first_fruits/comment-page-1/#comment-8590</link>
		<dc:creator>pookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe that I used to fall for this okey doke mess! Amazing that people still preach this stuff but won&#039;t preach Deuteronomy 13. I&#039;m not advocating stoning anyone, but if you are going to preach then preach what the word says, and stop serving the god of your imagination!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe that I used to fall for this okey doke mess! Amazing that people still preach this stuff but won&#8217;t preach Deuteronomy 13. I&#8217;m not advocating stoning anyone, but if you are going to preach then preach what the word says, and stop serving the god of your imagination!</p>
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		<title>By: Airbrush Artist</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/12/paula_white_first_fruits/comment-page-1/#comment-8588</link>
		<dc:creator>Airbrush Artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sickening-,The people She Preys on Are Unknowlegable in The Word.May God open their eyes to those who will deceive.As for Paula White,Judgement day awaits. ......All to Christ Glory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sickening-,The people She Preys on Are Unknowlegable in The Word.May God open their eyes to those who will deceive.As for Paula White,Judgement day awaits. &#8230;&#8230;All to Christ Glory</p>
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		<title>By: godlysoldier</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/12/paula_white_first_fruits/comment-page-1/#comment-8587</link>
		<dc:creator>godlysoldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it amazing how the real &quot;intent&quot; of a person&#039;s heart is brought to light concerning following AND coming out of the WOF movement..IC I too had to repent before God for thinking that He was my &quot;personal-guaranteed-spiritual-slot-machine&quot;, all the while under &quot;delusion&quot; that was I was serving Him out of a &quot;pure heart.&quot;  My God!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing how the real &#8220;intent&#8221; of a person&#8217;s heart is brought to light concerning following AND coming out of the WOF movement..IC I too had to repent before God for thinking that He was my &#8220;personal-guaranteed-spiritual-slot-machine&#8221;, all the while under &#8220;delusion&#8221; that was I was serving Him out of a &#8220;pure heart.&#8221;  My God!</p>
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		<title>By: SteelGator</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/12/paula_white_first_fruits/comment-page-1/#comment-8585</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant exploitation....typo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant exploitation&#8230;.typo.</p>
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		<title>By: SteelGator</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/02/12/paula_white_first_fruits/comment-page-1/#comment-8584</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad....The explotation of the poor and needy. She will see God&#039;s wrath someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad&#8230;.The explotation of the poor and needy. She will see God&#8217;s wrath someday.</p>
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