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	<title>Comments on: Why We Know There are No Modern Day &#8220;Prophets&#8221; and &#8220;Apostles&#8221;.  The Error in Claims of a Modern Day &#8220;5 Fold Ministry&#8221;.</title>
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		<title>By: trayjay</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/01/31/5_fold_fakeout/comment-page-1/#comment-8509</link>
		<dc:creator>trayjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s cool.  No prob.  All that stuff.  And BTW, it&#039;s Ms. trayjay.  Be blessed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s cool.  No prob.  All that stuff.  And BTW, it&#8217;s Ms. trayjay.  Be blessed.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/01/31/5_fold_fakeout/comment-page-1/#comment-8508</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gxg, this is why you need to lay off till you have time to study things for yourself.

I&#039;m giving you 24 hours off.  No more of your comments will be posted till after 2PM tomorrow if you choose to comment then.  Any comment attempts you make before then will be deleted from the moderation queue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gxg, this is why you need to lay off till you have time to study things for yourself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m giving you 24 hours off.  No more of your comments will be posted till after 2PM tomorrow if you choose to comment then.  Any comment attempts you make before then will be deleted from the moderation queue.</p>
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		<title>By: Gxg--G2</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/01/31/5_fold_fakeout/comment-page-1/#comment-8507</link>
		<dc:creator>Gxg--G2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye...... Scratch my last comment before the one I made to Trayjay. Didn&#039;t come out right like I wanted it to &amp; I&#039;m not trying to stir up strife (Proverbs 26:21, Proverbs 20:3, Proverbs 17:14,  Proverbs 17:19 Ephesians 4, Colossians 3:12-14, I Peter 3:8-13, I Peter 4:7-11 Romans 12:10-12, II Timothy 2:23-27)

Like she said, pick &amp; choose your battles wisely...especially when its  apparent that you will never agree....&amp; on some things</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye&#8230;&#8230; Scratch my last comment before the one I made to Trayjay. Didn&#8217;t come out right like I wanted it to &amp; I&#8217;m not trying to stir up strife (Proverbs 26:21, Proverbs 20:3, Proverbs 17:14,  Proverbs 17:19 Ephesians 4, Colossians 3:12-14, I Peter 3:8-13, I Peter 4:7-11 Romans 12:10-12, II Timothy 2:23-27)</p>
<p>Like she said, pick &amp; choose your battles wisely&#8230;especially when its  apparent that you will never agree&#8230;.&amp; on some things</p>
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		<title>By: Gxg--G2</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/01/31/5_fold_fakeout/comment-page-1/#comment-8506</link>
		<dc:creator>Gxg--G2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Mrs.Trayjay for the confusion. Just trying to be humorous..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Mrs.Trayjay for the confusion. Just trying to be humorous..</p>
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		<title>By: Gxg--G2</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/01/31/5_fold_fakeout/comment-page-1/#comment-8505</link>
		<dc:creator>Gxg--G2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for clarifying, Brah...

By the way, chill on your last comment Brah. The &quot;that was considerate&quot; comment was given BEFORE I saw your issue with CARM.
If I could&#039;ve delete it afterward, I would 

Regarding everything else, you&#039;re free to believe as you&#039;d like. That&#039;s your issue...&amp; I&#039;d suggest that next time you&#039;d please check the tone. Your site, but regarding how to treat Brethren , it&#039;s not Biblical/didn&#039;t appreciate it (Ephesians 4)
Colossians 3:12-14 I Peter 3:8-13 I Peter 4:7-11 Romans 12:10-12 II Timothy 2:23-27 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for clarifying, Brah&#8230;</p>
<p>By the way, chill on your last comment Brah. The &#8220;that was considerate&#8221; comment was given BEFORE I saw your issue with CARM.<br />
If I could&#8217;ve delete it afterward, I would </p>
<p>Regarding everything else, you&#8217;re free to believe as you&#8217;d like. That&#8217;s your issue&#8230;&amp; I&#8217;d suggest that next time you&#8217;d please check the tone. Your site, but regarding how to treat Brethren , it&#8217;s not Biblical/didn&#8217;t appreciate it (Ephesians 4)<br />
Colossians 3:12-14 I Peter 3:8-13 I Peter 4:7-11 Romans 12:10-12 II Timothy 2:23-27<br />
 &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/01/31/5_fold_fakeout/comment-page-1/#comment-8504</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trayjay, Gxg was making an attempt at humor, not actually trying to take credit for anything you say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trayjay, Gxg was making an attempt at humor, not actually trying to take credit for anything you say.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/01/31/5_fold_fakeout/comment-page-1/#comment-8503</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gxg,

Instead of you taking messages from here over to CARM and seeking to get some help that you might carry back over here, which might result in you only carrying someone else&#039;s thoughts, just post a link straight to the post on this blog.  And those who want to comment can sign up and speak for themselves.

I don&#039;t have anything held behind mandatory registration for viewing.  All is open to the public for viewing here, so don&#039;t feel a need to carry comments and consider &quot;privacy&quot;.

I highly suggest you just stop your efforts to speak on the issues I have with your claims of being tied up while commenting so much in so many places.  Nothing you say at this point is going to help.

And no need to continue harping that you are not mjatsog.  I asked YOU and you said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
That was very considerate
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then without me saying more, you continue babbling about this.  Look, if you keep it up I&#039;m going to ban you just for wasting my time with babble.

At this point EVERY comment you make is going through moderation, not because you&#039;re mjatsog, but simply because I feel it&#039;s best.

Besides, who knows how often I&#039;m talking with you or the &quot;Charismatic&quot; section of CARM or some other group of folks you get something from and might relay here.

Just stop with all your additional explaining.  It&#039;s just annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gxg,</p>
<p>Instead of you taking messages from here over to CARM and seeking to get some help that you might carry back over here, which might result in you only carrying someone else&#8217;s thoughts, just post a link straight to the post on this blog.  And those who want to comment can sign up and speak for themselves.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have anything held behind mandatory registration for viewing.  All is open to the public for viewing here, so don&#8217;t feel a need to carry comments and consider &#8220;privacy&#8221;.</p>
<p>I highly suggest you just stop your efforts to speak on the issues I have with your claims of being tied up while commenting so much in so many places.  Nothing you say at this point is going to help.</p>
<p>And no need to continue harping that you are not mjatsog.  I asked YOU and you said:</p>
<blockquote><p>
That was very considerate
</p></blockquote>
<p>Then without me saying more, you continue babbling about this.  Look, if you keep it up I&#8217;m going to ban you just for wasting my time with babble.</p>
<p>At this point EVERY comment you make is going through moderation, not because you&#8217;re mjatsog, but simply because I feel it&#8217;s best.</p>
<p>Besides, who knows how often I&#8217;m talking with you or the &#8220;Charismatic&#8221; section of CARM or some other group of folks you get something from and might relay here.</p>
<p>Just stop with all your additional explaining.  It&#8217;s just annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: trayjay</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/01/31/5_fold_fakeout/comment-page-1/#comment-8502</link>
		<dc:creator>trayjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did Gxg--G2 mean by taking credit for Trayjay?  Not that I really care, but just want to be sure that no one is trying to speak for me.  Trayjay is a female from the Cincinnati area.  I don&#039;t know who Gxg--G2 is.  Too much reading for me to make a determination if we even are on the same page on the subject (lost interest with all of the back and forth).  For future reference, Trayjay will not go back and forth about the same subject.  Not trying to be offensive, but at some point, you all need to choose your battles.  Especially when it is apparent that you will never agree.  Anyway, I just wanted to clear it that Gxg--G2 cannot take credit for Trayjay because he or she cannot speak for me.  Have a blessed day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did Gxg&#8211;G2 mean by taking credit for Trayjay?  Not that I really care, but just want to be sure that no one is trying to speak for me.  Trayjay is a female from the Cincinnati area.  I don&#8217;t know who Gxg&#8211;G2 is.  Too much reading for me to make a determination if we even are on the same page on the subject (lost interest with all of the back and forth).  For future reference, Trayjay will not go back and forth about the same subject.  Not trying to be offensive, but at some point, you all need to choose your battles.  Especially when it is apparent that you will never agree.  Anyway, I just wanted to clear it that Gxg&#8211;G2 cannot take credit for Trayjay because he or she cannot speak for me.  Have a blessed day.</p>
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		<title>By: Gxg--G2</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/01/31/5_fold_fakeout/comment-page-1/#comment-8499</link>
		<dc:creator>Gxg--G2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meant to add this part which was meant to go into the clarification I made, as I believe this is part of the quote given to Mjastog you responded to:


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there are no prophets, this does not mean people don’t prophesy today. Today  prophesy is of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20cor%2014:3;&amp;version=49;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1 Corinthians 14:3&lt;/a&gt; kind and comes  straight from scripture. It’s what pastors do most Sunday mornings. It is  FORTHTELLING as in speaking from scripture, not &lt;i&gt;foretelling&lt;/i&gt; as in trying  to speak of coming events with no foundation other than claiming &lt;i&gt;God&lt;/i&gt; said  it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Again, I already sent in a request in asking for permission to be able to edit out my post when I get the chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant to add this part which was meant to go into the clarification I made, as I believe this is part of the quote given to Mjastog you responded to:</p>
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there are no prophets, this does not mean people don’t prophesy today. Today  prophesy is of the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20cor%2014:3;&amp;version=49;" rel="nofollow">1 Corinthians 14:3</a> kind and comes  straight from scripture. It’s what pastors do most Sunday mornings. It is  FORTHTELLING as in speaking from scripture, not <i>foretelling</i> as in trying  to speak of coming events with no foundation other than claiming <i>God</i> said  it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, I already sent in a request in asking for permission to be able to edit out my post when I get the chance.</p>
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		<title>By: oct31st1517</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2008/01/31/5_fold_fakeout/comment-page-1/#comment-8498</link>
		<dc:creator>oct31st1517</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem brother. Very good discussion. alot of posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem brother. Very good discussion. alot of posts.</p>
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