January 20, 2008

Joel Osteen, Lacks Pastoral Training, Duped by Mormonism and in Need of Christ Centered Preaching.

by @ 12:54 am. Filed under The Truth Shall Set you Free!

Our brother on YouTube Bezel333, offers his take on Joel Osteen’s FoxNews Sunday interview. Something I may get around to watching on my DVR one day. But given what I’ve seen, let’s just say it remains very low on my priority list.


Joel Osteen on preaching, pastoral training and Mormonism

The Mormon cult has used the name “Joseph Smith” so many times, some of you might not have known, but the 2 quotes used in that video come from 2 different men who had the name “Joesph Smith”. The quote from the cult Book of Mormon was junk from the cult’s founder, Joseph Smith Junior. The quote from the cult book “Religious Truths Defined” was from Joseph Fielding Smith (aka Joseph Fielding Smith Junior). But it’s all part of Mormon doctrine, a group I call, the cult of Joseph Smith Junior.

While Satan can’t take over a true church, he does seek to implant false workers, who disguise themselves as workers of righteousness.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 (New American Standard Bible)

13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.

14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.

And men who are not called by God, but are children of Satan also have been known to be founders of what they claim is a “church”.

The doctrinal errors Joel Osteen walks in started with his father, who founded what Joel Osteen now heads. Joel’s father, John Osteen was one of the “child preachers”, who started at age 17. He did become theologically trained, received seminary degrees and was ordained by the Southern Baptists, but later disassociated from them.

This obituary of John Osteen mentions how he was placed in pulpits since age 17. I knew scripture showed pastors and evangelists being men, I never saw teenagers and children in my Bible being in church leadership roles. Now keep in mind John Osteen was born in 1921, so at age 17 that was the year 1938. However, when you read this Day Start Tribute to John Osteen, you notice quickly that it is claimed he:

…he received the baptism in the Holy Ghost in 1958, an experience which revolutionized his ministry into a worldwide outreach…

Which means he was really into some bad doctrine. Because the man was claiming to be a pastor for 20 years and then supposedly was baptized in the Holy Spirit in 1958. Which we know means he had some ultra-charismatic experience, that probably fails to align properly with scripture. (See: The Truth about Speaking in Tongues, a Video Presentation and Learn About the Holy Spirit.) So I’m just saying, where Joel is now in error is the continuation of what we’ve seen in the say what brings the numbers circles. John Osteen received a Doctorate of Divinity from Oral Roberts University. (Perhaps Matt Green can help you understand why that indicates a big problem.) If you read Joel Osteen’s bio on the Joel Osteen Ministries web site, you see that Joel attended Oral Roberts University and studied radio and television communications there. Joel then founded and produced his father’s TV “ministry”. Then the following:

For many years John Osteen encouraged Joel to preach, but he always declined preferring to work behind the scenes. But, in early 1999 Joel felt compelled to accept his father’s invitation and he preached his first sermon on January 17th of that year. Little did anyone know that would be the last Sunday of JohnOsteen’s life. Two weeks later Joel began preaching and later that year was installed as the new Senior Pastor of Lakewood Church.

I don’t think I need to say more.

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3 Responses to “Joel Osteen, Lacks Pastoral Training, Duped by Mormonism and in Need of Christ Centered Preaching.”

  1. art123 Says:

    Osteen lacks pastoral training? Tell us something that we don’t know, well I speak for myself. When Joel told his father that he preferred to work behind the scene, he should have picked someone else because this man is leading folks deeper and deeper into a hole of apostasy. However, everything and every situation is pre-ordained, right?

  2. IndependentConservative Says:

    You do know that Joel at times borrows material from his father’s sermons? I didn’t continue in my blog post, but what Joel is doing is where his own father had started going with his doctrine.

    Yes things must go as God has declared they would, including apostasy. Although there is still time for Joel and God might grant him repentance.

  3. healtheland Says:

    Whatever can be said about Joel Osteen, he has not been duped. He knows what he is doing. I recall his sermon on a conversation that he had with his late father. He approached his father with big plans to make his father a televangelism star. His father told Joel that he wasn’t interested; he just wanted to preach. Since Joel majored in broadcasting in college, that ruined his plans of being a big time Christian TV producer. So his father kept right on doing that until he died. Obviously after his father died, Joel decided that he was going to be the TV magnate that his father was hindering him from becoming while he was alive, and he made a business/broadcasting decision that being an actual preacher would inhibit his plans based on the fact that the number of basically orthodox preachers currently on national television you can probably count on two hands, and this is coming from a guy that is actually very liberal on such matters.

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