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January 18, 2008

Media Starting to Cover Jamal-Harrison Bryant Divorce. No Reconciliation! How Much Does He Really Make? (*Updated*)

by @ 2:39 pm. Filed under Nuts on Parade

This is from today’s Baltimore Sun newspaper.

Pastor and wife involved in a schism (on the lower part of the page)

In divorce court: Megachurch pastor Jamal-Harrison Bryant and his wife of 5 1/2 years, Gizelle Bryant.

She filed in Montgomery County on Jan. 9, alleging adultery. She states in court papers that the pastor makes more than $350,000 a year.

He filed in Baltimore City the same day. His complaint says nothing about cheating. It does state that “there is no hope of reconciliation.”

“This is a private matter between Dr. Bryant and his wife, and we’d like to keep this matter private,” said Jimmy A. Bell, lawyer for the Empowerment Temple pastor.

The couple have three children, 1-year-old twins and a 3-year-old.

The big question: Who gets the Bentley?

Jamal, the one who claims church leadership has proclaimed there will be no reconciliation, that all hope of such is lost. He is supposed to love her as Christ loves the church and we see nothing of her ever being unfaithful to him. So why is he filing for divorce? How will anyone who dares stand in defense of Jamal-Harrison Bryant square his actions against Ephesians 5 and 1 Corinthians 7? Just saying that things happen won’t cut it. No matter what she’s doing, he’s supposed conduct himself as a man who feels God called him to be a church leader. He is the head of the house. He is to be the example to those under his care. How can his proclamation of no reconciliation be aligned with scripture? I don’t see a way to do it.

1 Peter 5:1-3 (New American Standard Bible)

1 Therefore, I exhort the elders among you, as your fellow elder and witness of the sufferings of Christ, and a partaker also of the glory that is to be revealed,

2 shepherd the flock of God among you, exercising oversight not under compulsion, but voluntarily, according to the will of God; and not for sordid gain, but with eagerness;

3 nor yet as lording it over those allotted to your charge, but proving to be examples to the flock.

Now his wife says he makes more than $350K a year! That would seem to contradict a previous filing he made in court of making under $50K a year.

Although his blog is still down, Melvin Jones of Pulpit-Pimps.org has this note up:

We’re sorry… Pulpit-Pimps.org is experiencing a few technical difficulties.

Please bear with us as we solve theses issues…

 

From Melvin

I think it?s terrible the way I got knocked off the net just when things with the Right Reverend Jamal Harrison Bryant have started falling apart. I guess Gizzelle just couldn?t continue to overlook the little eight year old AND look past the newest addition to the Bryant clan last fall. Or maybe the bad doctrine her husband spews every day just started getting to her conscience. Either way, I suspect the chickens have come home to roost.

While I am saddened at their decision, you can?t be too surprised. Lifestyle and doctrine are so closely intertwined that once one of them gets sufficiently far out there, you have to expect a meltdown in the other. Jamal?s lifestyle has dictated his doctrine, his preaching, and his persona. His doctrine, preaching and persona in turn pushed his life style that much further out there.

The sycophantic support of his followers did exactly nothing to help him, by the way. Even now, I can wager you his followers are busy defending him as the Mand of Gawd who just ?made a mistake.?

Sorry, stepping in a pile of crap because I wasn?t paying attention is making a mistake. Taking the pile of crap and rubbing it in my face is not a mistake.

Of course, knowing the infinite power of God, He can repair their marriage. But I?m not at all convinced either Jamal or Gizzelle are willing to pay the price of that reconciliation. I suspect Jamal would have to end up getting saved, get a real job, actually study the Bible, and (here?s the hard part) unflinchingly apply it in his life.

Care to take any bets on which way he will go?

1/17/2008 @ 14:30 KST (Z+9)

He gets knocked off. I had to change web hosts. And my new web host discovered someone is trying to run attacks against this blog. It could all just be circumstantial. No matter who has been attacking our blogs, I’m sure the Lord will repay. Although I and my new web host are keeping a very watchful eye now.

All saints should be careful to be part of a church assembly, that teaches sound doctrine, with leadership that upholds scripture by their own example.

Related post: Jamal-Harrison Bryant and His Wife Gizzelle Bryant are Heading to Divorce Court.


update 10/3/2008 6:01PM:
Please see Well At Least There Is Some Good News Related To Jamal-Harrison Bryant. No Divorce!



45 Responses to “Media Starting to Cover Jamal-Harrison Bryant Divorce. No Reconciliation! How Much Does He Really Make? (*Updated*)”

  1. GaryV Says:

    You beat me to it IC………..I came here to give you this article. Notice Gizelle alleges adultery?? Just as we’ve been saying for months?? Some mass of the blind will no doubt continue to follow him into the ditch, but at least those sincere about the Lord won’t be duped any longer

  2. IndependentConservative Says:

    Notice Gizelle alleges adultery??

    Her reason for divorce was already so obvious, I honestly didn’t notice it when reading and I read the whole thing 😀 .

    I figure that’s a foregone conclusion that he cheated on her. The only unknowns that might no longer be unknowns in divorce court is how many times and how many babies are there really.

    I can’t hold anything against her for filing, although I’d prefer they reconcile.

    If she’s a “gold digger” as some call her, he deserved every bit of her! All the more reason he should be seeking to take her back.

  3. IndependentConservative Says:

    You know GaryV, I was so focused on the $350K, because given it looks like he’s noted less than $50K in the RECENT past. If a judge notices that, Jamal-Harrison Bryant it seems to me in just my humble opinion, could be doing long term “prison ministry”. Do you think I’m possibly correct?

  4. Cop Says:

    Looks like all the babies mama’s will be getting a bit more.

    Ofcourse thats only if he stays in the same position at the church.

    Its a sad state of affairs when the Church pastor has commited adultry that resulted in fathering at least 1 child, lied about his income to pay less in child support, Drives around in a 100,000 dollar car LEASED BY THE CHURCH, not afraid to wear poka-dotted ties and shirts, and tells his wife (on paper anyway) ITS OVER AND I AINT COMIN BACK.

    he is the true PULPIT-PIMP!

  5. GaryV Says:

    IC, he claimed $38,000 in income when he was contesting a raise in child support filed by his babymomma. He was directed to read the filing he submitted, and be certain it was completely accurate under penalty of perjury. This is stated right where his signature goes.

    So, you may be right.He may finally wind up with a congregation that can’t walk out on him. Because they’re behind bars.

    All told, I get no joy out of this, and would dearly love to see him repent, confess, and get right with God. Sometimes it takes a disaster such as this to bring that about. But he should never be allowed behind a pulpit again,not even to vacuum the carpet.

  6. art123 Says:

    It is obvious that people like Bryant, Bynum-Weeks, the Whites, Zachary Sims, are there more, is a bad example of what church leadership is about. You can’t be a true preacher and don’t take God nor the bible seriously.

  7. IndependentConservative Says:

    Zachary Sims

    We know you meant Zachary Tims, but I figured I’d note the correction in case anyone was wondering who he is.

  8. art123 Says:

    IC, I remember watching Zachary Tims on christian networks along with his wife Reba. Did I get her name right? I found out in 2007 that he is on the church board with the Whites. Honestly, I thought the Tims made a lovely couple. It goes to show you never know what goes on behind closed doors.

  9. looking for truth Says:

    This does not suprise me at all. There was a problem about his PhD. It appears that more people are being uncovered lately. Yes, God’s Word is true: there is nothing covered that will not be revealed. I thank God that I was not led to follow any of these scandalous persons. I am sure there will be more.

  10. mkinn1 Says:

    What is going on with Jamal’s myspace page? All of his sermons seem to put his business out there like, “Why did I get Married” and “Love Stinks”. This seemed funny to me for a pastor that seems discreet.

  11. alady1969 Says:

    mkinn1…

    there’s nothing discreet about JHB. Today sermon title was “I’am Still The Man”…..

    Woe unto him!

  12. IndependentConservative Says:

    You mean he actually got into the pulpit today and gave a sermon?…with THAT title?…

  13. ncatina Says:

    alady1969…Today sermon title was “I’am Still The Man”……
    You have GOT to be kidding me?! (LOL in reaction)

    If this does not epitomize self-aggrandizing, I don’t know what else does! Sheesh!

  14. godlysoldier Says:

    I can’t even comment…..

  15. godlysoldier Says:

    what was the scripture reference?

  16. godlysoldier Says:

    …as if it would really matter….

  17. Cop Says:

    Whats the name of his next sermon?

    KING KONG AINT GOT NOTIN ON ME

    CANT TOUCH THIS

    IAM THAT IAM

    He’s a joke. Anyone sitting under this mans leadership couldnt have studied the bible for any length of time.

  18. alady1969 Says:

    When I thought I’ve seen it all from him. He tops with something else. He used Psalm 51:10-13. How is was like David…yeah right. How God blessed him with a Bentley, 3 taylors from across the country, a degree from Oxford, gave him 10,000.00 member from 40, a beautiful wife, and yada yada yada, to then tap in falling in the traps of the world, getting a text message that am carring your baby, that God had to expose his mistakes but reminded him that he is STILL THE CHOSEN ONE….

    Now this is the short and sweat, but the kicker is he slammed the mic down closed the bible and walked of the stage(oops I mean pulpit) Needless to say the 90% crowd of women were hooping and whaling,and laided out on the floor. It was unreal! It was like watching a reality show, I couldn’t stop watching. I was truely in AWWWW…

  19. alady1969 Says:

    IndependentConservative….

    He made it clear he wasn’t going to stop preaching. He made that statement right before walking off the stage. It went a little something like this….

    “You can say what you want on the internet, in the paper or on the radio, am going to keep on preaching. We fall down but we get up. If your coming to see Jamal then keep coming because I’ll be here Sunday after Sunday.!

    Everybody pick your lips up off the floor, that’s what he said….lol

  20. djenk23 Says:

    i just saw this mess on youtube…..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpKkTSG04zY….
    the personification of arrogance..

  21. IndependentConservative Says:

    It appears he has established a means to justify anything he does after being caught. Just find somebody in the Bible who did a sin of that sort and he claims he is the modern version of them. While his followers embrace every word.

    At least viper Jimmy Swaggart turned on fake tears when he was caught. At least viper Randy White had a momentary pity party on his podium. Jamal is flying at top speed out of control, has already crashed and does not even realize it.

    That means, this might get way worse.

  22. godlysoldier Says:

    At least David DID humble himself and repent before the Lord (Psa 51, one of the greatest records of mans “sincere” repentance in the bible) I can’t say whether Jamal has repented or not, BUT, giving a sermon like that definitely leads one to believe that he DID NOT! Somewhat like Samson, going out as before and not even knowing that the Lord was no longer with him, then again…was the Lord ever with Jamal…things that make you go hmmm!

  23. godlysoldier Says:

    He obviously OVERLOOKED verse 17 of Psa 51…”the sacrafices of God are a “BROKEN SPIRIT” a “BROKEN AND A CONTRITE HEART”

  24. IndependentConservative Says:

    He’s insane. That’s what I must say after seeing that.

    Why won’t Jamal Brant preach from Titus 1? Because HE CAN’T! and his followers fail to see that is the standard for church leadership, not if somebody can sleep around and get caught.

    In part 2 of that he mentions “Oxford” in a slick use of words. He never says where he obtained the degree from though, just that he studied at “Oxford”. I wonder how many of them clapping know what is not being said? Probably not many.

    And to make matters WORSE, his “armor bearer” or whoever that was at the end, tried to compare Jamal to Jesus “closing the book” in Luke 4 🙄 .

  25. IndependentConservative Says:

    The level of arrogance is simply disgusting!

  26. terrellt04 Says:

    Moses- a murderer, broke the tablets which the commandments were written on, yet God continue to use him.

    Abraham- pimped his wife, didn’t do things as God told him to do (God told him to leave his family yet he still brought Lot), yet God continue to use him and made him the “father of many nations”

    David- adulterer & murderer, yet God said that he “was a man after God’s on heart.”

    Peter- denied Jesus (wow), yet he was a one of the great apostles

    Paul- a serial killer of Christians, yet God used him as one of the best apostles in the bible.

    So I’m saying we can go and point out every flaw there is about every man and woman of God that has ever preached the word of God but what would that do? Give power to the enemy so that he can make others doubt Christianity because of the personal lives of the people that God use. So instead of down talking the men and women of God because of our personal feelings, we should rather pray for them and lift them up. Truthfully, no one is perfect so who are we to judge and talk about others?

    Yeah what happened to this man of God is messed up but God is still using him to advance his kingdom. Therefore, pray for him (along with others), get over it and move on…

  27. Praiser4Life Says:

    He claims he has an anointing on his life. What anointing? The anointing to cheat on your wife? Please!!!

  28. mkinn1 Says:

    I haven’t heard him preach since I left his church and Baltimore over three years ago. After seeing the youtube clip and hearing the “messages” on his myspace, the scripture butchering has gotten worse. I do not miss it at all.

  29. IndependentConservative Says:

    terrellt04 – Given you are under delusion, I will attempt to offer you a bit of advice. Lord willing it will register with you, otherwise you’ll continue advancing bad doctrine and wallowing in the pit with a false teacher.

    Moses, Abraham and David all lived under a totally different covenant. Their leadership was not contingent on them remaining above reproach. Although they knew the true meaning of the word repentance.

    Peter, denied Christ before seeing the resurrected Christ and before Pentecost.

    Paul, all his actions were BEFORE claiming the Lord’s name.

    Titus 1 is the standard you need to consider.

    Jamal is NOT acting as the Lord has commanded for those who claim His name, especially in church leadership and neither do you in Jamal’s defense.

    1 Corinthians 5, evil is to removed from the assembly of the saints. In saying that Jamal should be removed from just his assumed leadership post is probably a bit too nice of a suggestion.

  30. alady1969 Says:

    mkinn1…

    I left 3yrs ago myself and I have to say we got out just in time. This foolishness is just messy. When I attended, my brother would always ride me about JHB, because he was familiar with him back in the club days. I didn’t know him then, but it’s not hard for me to image how he was.

  31. Booker G Says:

    Word in the pews is that the reason why JHB filed for a limited divorce was because he has designs on running for Bishop in the AME denomination and that in order to get into office, he can not be divorced. Limited divorce is not considered a full complete dissolution of the marriage. Therefore he would still be able to keep the option of running for Bishop open to him and his supporters.

  32. NB Says:

    I believe that God does have an awesome call on JHB’s life; however, as a former member, it is evident that he needs to humble his heart before he can move/go anywhere… How can he preach to anyone when his family is out of order, his job (to be a pastor) is out of order and relationships with others are out of order? How can anyone listen to “the ‘supposed’ Word” from him, when he is not living by the standards that are discussed in Titus 1 on Christian leadership. God has given Jamal a gift, but is he using it appropriately. Not at all. Honestly, I believe he only has two options. 1.) Humble himself, study the Word and rebuild a relationship with God and try to fix his family situation. Whether or not Gizelle changes her mind is her decision, but instead of flying across the world, spreading a skewed message of God and living a lifestyle unpleasing to Him, he should focus on Him (refering to God), himself (Jamal) and his family, which is his FIRST ministry! If he does this, then he can use his mishaps as a part of a greater testimony which may be able to draw so many people to the Lord. or 2.) continue going the way he is and self destruct!

    God hates pride! He says that he’ll be here week after week, keep on preaching from his 9:30 Youtubed sermon… He does not know what his future holds for him. He gotta humble that pride.

  33. ncatina Says:

    I am not surprised by JHB split-hair answer…This sounds quite similiar to what has happened with Clarence McClendon some years ago. He all but dumped his first wife and remarried less than a couple of months later (if that) to another person for the sake of maintaining the “religious requirement” to gain leadership in the denomination’s (Foursquare?)pulpit.

    It’s all sad, indeed.

  34. IndependentConservative Says:

    For the details on pimp Clarence McClendon, please see this post and this one.

    How the AME handles the title “bishop” and treats it like a level above pastor really is more of a Roman Catholic design and not of scripture. (In scripture a “bishop” is simply a pastor, period. And none has higher ranking over another.) But Jamal has already helped someone else already assume that role who fails to meet the qualifications for church leadership.

    I’m not surprised Jamal wants to attain that for himself. Given it is very much a political affair within AME ranks. Jamal seems to enjoy things that are rooted in politics and popularity.

  35. greatestgiftislove Says:

    I just want to say that the problem with church people is that we think that this man is GOD he is a man just like everyone. People make mistake, look at ML King his lady of the night was [Edit by Independent Conservative: Portion of statement about MLK removed. Although we have plenty of information showing MLK Jr. was unfaithful to his wife, I have never seen information confirming this particular accusation and even without anyone seeing what you said we all get your overall point that he was unfaithful to his wife.] look at Rev. Jesse Jackson he cheated on his wife. JAMAL always have a word FOR US THAT MAKE US FEEL MATTER. LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE HE SAVE AND LOVE THE LORD BUT NO we so quick to talk about something bad but we never quick to talk about something good. we so quick to quote lines from the bible but check this out “IF YOU THY PERFECT LET YOU CAST THE FIRST STONE.” END QUOTE. QUOTE IN THE BIBLE” THE GREATEST GIFT THAT GOD COULD GIVE US WAS LOVE. END QUOTE SO LET US START ACTING LIKE WE LOVE EACH OTHER NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, BECAUSE A SIN IS A SIN AND GOD FORGIVE US EVERYDAY AND STILL LOVE US SO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR WITH YOUR SINNING SELF AND START LOVING AND STOP JUDGING BECAUSE THAT IS GOD JOB.HE DO NOT NEED NO HELP FROM US, TRUST ME HE BEEN DOING THIS BEFORE WE WAS EVER WAS ON THIS EARTH. IF YOU LOVE THE LORD YOU WOULD BE PRAYING THAT THIS SHALL PASS AND THEY ARE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THIS MATTER.AND DANCE ON THE DEVIL AND LET HIM KNOW THAT HE DIDN’T WIN THIS BATTLE. I PRAY THAT WHATEVER EYES THAT READ MY MESSAGE WILL TAKE THE TIME TO REFLECT ON THEM SELF AND PRAY , LOVE, DON’T JUDGE AND SPREAD THE WORD TO PRAY FOR THIS FAMILY.

  36. IndependentConservative Says:

    greatestgiftislove said:

    I just want to say that the problem with church people is that we think that this man is GOD he is a man just like everyone.

    If we say that a so-called church leader proclaiming the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is “just like everyone”, don’t we then make the baptism of the Holy Spirit of no effect? If he’s just like everyone else, he certainly has no place in church leadership. NO, you are incorrect, a church leader is supposed to be BETTER than others, 1 Timothy 3. Your saying Jamal is like everyone else proves why he is NOT a true church leader.

    MLK, Jr. was unsaved.

    Jesse Jackson, is a politician who I doubt is saved. He’s made it known he lives under a Constitution, not a Bible and is now OK with legal murder of babies and turned to that at the point it became politically opportune for him to do so. I’m surprised you mention Jesse Jackson and MLK in the same statement, given Jesse Jackson has made garbage of anything MLK did of any good. Jesse Jackson is a Civil Rights Industry poverty pimp. He stands in pulpits and on TV talking about everything but salvation through Christ.

    JAMAL always have a word FOR US THAT MAKE US FEEL MATTER.

    I’ll assume you wanted to say this pulpit pimp says things that make you feel “better”. What is happening is that you’re having your ears tickled and don’t even realize you’ve heaped a false teacher on yourself. Because you’ve deluded the meaning of “love”, to the point that when the flock is being abused you can’t even see it.

    2 Timothy 4:3-4 (New American Standard Bible)

    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,

    4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

    You follow a pimp who speaks to you about mythological earthly delusions of grandeur. Spewing that lie from Satan called the “prosperity doctrine”. But like other false teaching pimps, he puts the name of the Lord on the front of it, so it’s OK with you. The truth can be found in 1 Timothy 6.

    LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE HE SAVE AND LOVE THE LORD BUT NO we so quick to talk about something bad but we never quick to talk about something good.

    Jamal has saved NOBODY. Only God can bring someone to the truth and His Son, John 6:44. What is good is that God exposed the false teacher named Jamal-Harrison Bryant. God has exposed Bryant’s bad doctrine and bad lifestyle too, but some continue defending him. In this God is giving both you and Jamal an opportunity to turn from bad doctrine.

    we so quick to quote lines from the bible but check this out “IF YOU THY PERFECT LET YOU CAST THE FIRST STONE.” END QUOTE.

    You are so quick to quote versus outside of their proper context. No one has said they desire to kill Jamal. Nobody is tossing any stones at him. Jamal is a dog eating his vomit and feeding it to you, as GOD said in 2 Peter 2.

    QUOTE IN THE BIBLE” THE GREATEST GIFT THAT GOD COULD GIVE US WAS LOVE. END QUOTE

    I love you enough to tell you that you need to go read 1 Corinthians 5 and pray that God grants you the wisdom to understand it.

    SO LET US START ACTING LIKE WE LOVE EACH OTHER NO MATTER WHAT WE DO

    If Jamal molested your child would you want him to remain in the pulpit? Jamal does even worse to souls! You say “no matter what”, but you really mean as long as he tickles your ears with that ungodly and arrogant vomit from his mouth.

    BECAUSE A SIN IS A SIN AND GOD FORGIVE US EVERYDAY AND STILL LOVE US SO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR WITH YOUR SINNING SELF AND START LOVING AND STOP JUDGING BECAUSE THAT IS GOD JOB.

    All sins are not equal although God will not have any in His sight. Once you read over 1 Corinthians 5, you’ll see that sexually immoral, covetous, swindlers are only fit to be KICKED OUT of the assembly of saints. While gluttony is a sin, we don’t remove people from the church assembly for eating too much. Yes, the church IS TO JUDGE IT’S OWN, TO SEE IF THEY ARE FIT TO BE IN OUR ASSEMBLY GIVEN THEY CLAIM THE LORD’S NAME. Once you read the scriptures you dislike seeing me speak of you’ll learn what I’m saying is the truth.

    HE DO NOT NEED NO HELP FROM US, TRUST ME HE BEEN DOING THIS BEFORE WE WAS EVER WAS ON THIS EARTH.

    Once you read what I’ve given you to read, you’ll see that God TOLD US TO remove evil from around us, even when they claim to be Christians. God told us to keep watch for false teachers and avoid them, Romans 16:17. God wants saints to warn each other. I love you enough to give you the warning.

    IF YOU LOVE THE LORD YOU WOULD BE PRAYING THAT THIS SHALL PASS AND THEY ARE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THIS MATTER.

    If you love the Lord, you would read more of His Word and learn that you should not sit in support of someone like Jamal. It is Jamal who has documented that he feels his marriage is beyond reconciliation. I didn’t tell him to say that and have made it clear I’m against him taking that position on the matter. So go talk to Jamal about it.

    AND DANCE ON THE DEVIL AND LET HIM KNOW THAT HE DIDN’T WIN THIS BATTLE.

    I’m not seeing in my Bible where saints “dance on the devil”, I’m sure that’s some nonsense made up in your circles of false doctrines. My Bible says the devil’s children pose as workers of righteousness and we should beware of them, 2 Corinthians 11:13-15. If you want to win a battle, you’ll read your Bible more!

    I pray you misguided souls are given an opportunity for repentance, Jamal included. Because you really don’t know how lost you really are. Some of us have been where you are now, but only God can open your heart to the truth.

  37. NB Says:

    Independent Conservative said:

    “If you love the Lord, you would read more of His Word and learn that you should not sit in support of someone like Jamal. It is Jamal who has documented that he feels his marriage is beyond reconciliation. I didn’t tell him to say that and have made it clear I’m against him taking that position on the matter. So go talk to Jamal about it.”

    YES, YES, YES!!!!! You could not have said it any better!!!! I was saying YES throughout your whole explanation towards the greatestgiftislove!!! YES

  38. ncatina Says:

    IC, I whole-hartedly concur on all points illustrated.

  39. art123 Says:

    IC says:
    If we say that a so-called church leader proclaiming the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is “just like everyone”, don’t we then make the baptism of the Holy Spirit of no effect? If he’s just like everyone else, he certainly has no place in church leadership. NO, you are incorrect, a church leader is supposed to be BETTER than others, 1 Timothy 3. Your saying Jamal is like everyone else proves why he is NOT a true church leader.

    I’d say only if they’re called and sent by God. Many of them use that “touch not my anointed” statement all the time but the bible says that we shall know them by their fruits. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit and vice versa. As I read the word of God, I can see and feel that the Holy Spirit was working through these men of God. Today’s leaders? Many have I doubt very much.

  40. art123 Says:

    To add, so if Bryant wants to say that he’s still the man, he was NEVER the man.

  41. daughter Says:

    Words fail me.

  42. greatestgiftislove Says:

    Rely Independent Conservative you act like you GOD think you perfect and know all the answer to everything and know what is right and wrong and that you holy then thou.” If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness 1John 1:9/ I acknowledged my sin to You and my iniquity I have not hidden I said, I will confess my transgressions to the Lord, and You forgave the iniquity of my sin Psalm 32:5/In this is love, not that we loved God,but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins 1John 4:30/ Be kind to one another , tenderhearted, forgiving one another, just as God in Christ forgave us. Ephesians 4:32/ and Finally A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another ; as I have loved you.1John 13:34 ” I just want to end on this, this have nothing to do with JHB anymore because everyone who have something unkind to say and have energy to keep talking about his life and say all kinds of things about him and Gossiping that is a sin. But no one is judging you, life is to short to keep trying to find fault in someone else, sometimes we need to take a look at our own lives and see what we have done before we find fault in someone else. One last things when I say he help save people, I am saying his word from God has help get some people through somethings in there life that they was ready to kill themselves, and they feel there is no hope in life and they gone to many churches and they still feel empty inside, God use his lips to speak into 10000. people inner ear and make them feel like all I want is to live for GOD. and that is truly a blessing from GOD. All I am saying give this man a break lets pray for his family and show GOD we can love people past there sin as GOD love us even we keep sinning over and over and over and over and over again. GREATESTGIFTISLOVE

  43. IndependentConservative Says:

    greatestgiftislove says:

    Rely Independent Conservative you act like you GOD think you perfect and know all the answer to everything and know what is right and wrong and that you holy then thou.

    I think you need to read your Bible more, but that does not mean I feel I am God. I feel you need to study the Word of God.

    ” If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness 1John 1:9/ I acknowledged my sin to You and my iniquity I have not hidden I said, I will confess my transgressions to the Lord, and You forgave the iniquity of my sin Psalm 32:5/In this is love, not that we loved God,but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins 1John 4:30/ Be kind to one another , tenderhearted, forgiving one another, just as God in Christ forgave us. Ephesians 4:32/ and Finally A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another ; as I have loved you.1John 13:34

    In all that, you have forgotten the following:

    1 Timothy 3:1-7 (New American Standard Bible)

    1 It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do.

    2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

    3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money.

    4 He must be one who manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity

    5 (but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?),

    6 and not a new convert, so that he will not become conceited and fall into the condemnation incurred by the devil.

    7 And he must have a good reputation with those outside the church, so that he will not fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

    What you continue to skip over is the fact that God loved us enough to give us the definition of who should be in church leadership. If we love Him we would only have individuals who meet that standard claiming leadership in the church. You in all your lather of twisted “love” don’t show true love for the Lord or His church. Because you endorse a man who fails to meet the standard given by God.

    We all desire Jamal to repent, that does not mean he has proven himself worthy of church leadership. At this point, as GaryV has mentioned, Jamal should not even be permitted to vacuum the carpet behind a pulpit, never mind preach from one.

    What you call “love” is actually hate for the commands of God to the church, because you endorse a man who runs totally counter to what God commands regarding church leadership. You love a man who tickles your ears and his twisted doctrine more than the truth.

    I just want to end on this, this have nothing to do with JHB anymore because everyone who have something unkind to say and have energy to keep talking about his life and say all kinds of things about him and Gossiping that is a sin.

    It’s totally about JHB. That is why you came here, who you speak in defense of and are upset anyone says he should be removed from church leadership, permanently! To say the sheep should avoid him is love, but in your twisted mind it’s “unkind”. To speak of what is public record (and the Lord knows we have not even touched half of it) and warn the sheep a man with bad doctrine can’t keep his home and fails GOD’S COMMANDS for a church leader is Ephesians 5:11, but in your twisted mind it’s “gossip”. Gossip, by the definition given in Proverbs 20:19 is to get into matters that are unknown for the sake of slander. What is spoken of here about JHB is public record and printed in the local Baltimore newspaper. Him being involved in sexual immorality is old news. His bad doctrine has been displayed for the world to see, including his twisted response to what is currently going on with him. So nothing said here is a “secret” and nothing said here is being done to slander. It is done to warn saints. You would rather we let this continual evil be overlooked, keep him in his post and dance. I say God is not mocked, 1 Corinthians 5 is for the church and this leaven including your defense brings shame to the body of Christ. Jesus did not die on a cross for Jamal to act a fool and you then to defend him holding leadership over saints. Turn from this evil and don’t go into the ditch with Jamal.

    But no one is judging you, life is to short to keep trying to find fault in someone else, sometimes we need to take a look at our own lives and see what we have done before we find fault in someone else.

    And sometimes we need to ask God to help us come to our senses, so we get out of the snare of being under bad doctrine, endorsing a pulpit pimp. Given God does not like someone defending a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    You feel God has planted Jamal in a TRUE church leadership post, when clearly scripture shows Jamal was not. Jamal always was a man of bad reputation and a novice at best in affairs of God’s House. So God certainly did not plant Jamal where he is, but God will uproot!

    Matthew 15:7-20 (New American Standard Bible)

    7 “You hypocrites, rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you:
    8 ‘THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS,
    BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME.
    9 ‘BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME,
    TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.'”

    10 After Jesus called the crowd to Him, He said to them, “Hear and understand.

    11 “It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man.”

    12 Then the disciples came and said to Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this statement?”

    13 But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted.

    14 “Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

    15 Peter said to Him, “Explain the parable to us.”

    16 Jesus said, “Are you still lacking in understanding also?

    17 “Do you not understand that everything that goes into the mouth passes into the stomach, and is eliminated?

    18 “But the things that proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and those defile the man.

    19 “For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, slanders.

    20 “These are the things which defile the man; but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile the man.”

    You repeatedly see Jamal bear false witness on scripture with his twisted doctrine. His own wife says he is a sexually immoral man, to the point she’s divorcing him. He has filed to put his wife away from him in a “limited” sense and declared there is no room for reconciliation. But you feel he’s fit for church leadership. Because you follow a doctrine that IS NOT scripture. Your doctrine is the new tradition of men, who fleece saints and twist scripture, to try and cover their evil and continue. Even when exposed, they fall right back on their horrible abuse of scripture and you spew their vomit in concert with them.

    One last things when I say he help save people, I am saying his word from God has help get some people through somethings in there life that they was ready to kill themselves, and they feel there is no hope in life and they gone to many churches and they still feel empty inside, God use his lips to speak into 10000. people inner ear and make them feel like all I want is to live for GOD. and that is truly a blessing from GOD.

    You are a prime example of the worst that Charles Finney ever taught. Do you even know who Charles Finney is? You and Jamal are disciples of the same devil, that had Finney saying the vomit you speak, but I’ve got some posts that might help you if the Lord wills.
    Charles Finney Proves How Terrible Doctrine Carries for Generations.
    The Truth About What Some Call “Altar Calls” and “Revival”.

    In your world, if someone “feels good” and walks in your twisted doctrine, it was from God. Because your measure is not scripture. If God really did call someone who was listening to Bryant, the best thing they could do for themselves now is heed the warning and leave Bryant. Some ex-Muslims claim they realized Jesus was real because of twisted statements they read in the Koran. It does not mean they should continue reading it and it does not make the Koran a good book either. It only means God continues working miracles in calling people to His Son.

    All I am saying give this man a break lets pray for his family and show GOD we can love people past there sin as GOD love us even we keep sinning over and over and over and over and over again.

    We agree that JHB should be given a break. The only problem is that you feel that “break” means let him remain in the pulpit. When the Word of God proves “break” means kick him OUT of the pulpit and possibly the assembly of saints as a whole. Really with his arrogant swagger, the later would be best at the moment. That is LOVE, to tell someone you won’t tolerate them defiling the House of God, in their lies and pimping saints for money and even sex. 1 Corinthians 5 is ALL LOVE!

    GREATESTGIFTISLOVE, you are so FULL of false doctrine, you could be Pope John Paul II during the Roman Catholic sexual abuse scandals!

    For others reading this, make no mistake, the cult of Roman Catholicism and the cult known as the Word of Faith Movement have too many sad similarities.

    greatestgiftislove, I have addressed your bad doctrine twice. I will not spend any more time on you. You are banned from this blog, because at the moment you don’t desire the truth and continue promoting a false gospel. If you were leaving anyway, that is fine, I’ll just ensure that is the case.

  44. truthintheselastdays Says:

    He has an ego the size of Everest. “I am Still the Man” – yeah the man to get judged!

  45. IndependentConservative Says:

    What’s even WORSE is that there are people still cheering him on!

    All lining up for the pit together, Luke 6:39-40.

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