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January 8, 2008

Why We Know Mormons are Not Christians and Mormonism (LDS) Teaches a False God. Sending Their Followers to the Same Error as Satan.

by @ 4:02 am. Filed under The Truth Shall Set you Free!

Since this post goes into a lot of detail straight from LDS (cult of Joseph Smith Junior) sources, I’m going to put a couple of videos first. They explain things in a sort of short version. After the videos will be fully detailed sources and scripture (real scripture as in from the Bible), to show the Mormon cult teachings versus what scripture teaches. Equipped with this information, no saint should have to feel deceived into thinking Mormons are in any way Christians. They are not.

So we’ll start with the 2 videos.

 

3. Who Is God? – Jesus Christ / Joseph Smith

 

4. Eternal Life – Jesus Christ / Joseph Smith

The LDS official web site host much of the material that exposes the cult, if one compares it to an honest read of real scripture (the Bible). One booklet on the cult’s web site is titled “Gospel Principles”. Chapter 47 of that booklet titled “Exaltation” will be the focus of much of the material below. Because it exposes the cult well. You should keep in mind, that Mormons follow a false jesus. So when they speak of “Jesus” it’s not the Christian Jesus.Here’s the opening paragraph from the Mormon cult “Gospel Principles” chapter on “Exaltation”.

When we lived with our Heavenly Father, he explained a plan for our progression. We could become like him, an exalted being. The plan required that we be separated from him and come to earth. This separation was necessary to prove whether we would obey our Father’s commandments even though we were no longer in his presence. The plan provided that when earth life ended, we would be judged and rewarded according to the degree of our faith and obedience. We would then be assigned to the place for which we had prepared.

Notice Mormonism claims we all lived before this present life. The Bible shows our lives begin in the womb, Job 31:15 and Isaiah 44:2. In this fabricated pre-existing life, the cult claims the Father gave us a primer before sending us to Earth. (Mormons don’t believe in the Trinity, because they embrace a false jesus, that prevents them from being able to grasp the concept of the Trinity.) Mormons see the Father as an “exalted being” and feel they can become the same. As in exactly the same. This will be explained in more detail later. Notice how Mormon teaching speaks of being able to “prove” ourselves to God. This is not something man can do, Isaiah 64:6. This is why man needs to have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ as savior for remission of sins, Acts 10:43. Jesus died for our sins, 1 Corinthians 15:3. Those who believe on Christ will be saved, John 3:16-18.

The Mormon cult teaches that external life is exaltation. (From the Mormon cult booklet.)

Exaltation is eternal life, the kind of life God lives. He lives in great glory. He is perfect. He possesses all knowledge and all wisdom. He is the Father of spirit children. He is a creator. We can become like our Heavenly Father. This is exaltation.

They feel literally that they can become gods. They feel they can become the Father themselves. They also speak of “spirit children” because the cult teaches the Father has a wife and older traditional LDS teaching was that the Father was living in polygamy. Keep in mind, this cult is birthed from a very perverted man. So he acts like the Father has intercourse to make “spirit babies” and tells others they will do the same with marriages in Heaven. However, scripture shows there is not giving in marriage between man and woman after this life, Matthew 22:30. To claim God needs a “spirit wife” and “spirit children” denies God the power to create life of his own calling. Mormonism has a “father” that is as helpless in procreation as a human, requiring intercourse. And the reason they teach this will be better understood later in this post.

So you see, the Mormon cult does not merely teach that “exaltation” is the gift of external life, they teach it makes you a god. The scripture noted above mentions those who receive eternal life being like angels, not like the Father.

Look what the cult says the “exalted” become.

Those who receive exaltation in the celestial kingdom through faith in Jesus Christ will receive special blessings. The Lord has promised, “All things are theirs” (D&C 76:59). These are some of the blessings given to exalted people: 1. They will live eternally in the presence of Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ (see D&C 76).
2. They will become gods.
3. They will have their righteous family members with them and will be able to have spirit children also. These spirit children will have the same relationship to them as we do to our Heavenly Father. They will be an eternal family.
4. They will receive a fulness of joy.
5. They will have everything that our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have–all power, glory, dominion, and knowledge. President Joseph Fielding Smith wrote: “The Father has promised through the Son that all that he has shall be given to those who are obedient to his commandments. They shall increase in knowledge, wisdom, and power, going from grace to grace, until the fulness of the perfect day shall burst upon them” (Doctrines of Salvation, 2:36).

Notice the continual plays on having people desire to become gods. Then the mention of making babies, sex in the afterlife, a play on lust. They speak of these “spirit children” having a relationship to the “exalted” like humans to the Father. Because Mormons feel they can become Lord of a planet. When they say like the Father, they mean it. Notice most of the statements reference Mormon cult writings. You can’t get this mess from the Bible!

So how does the cult say you can become a god?

The time to fulfill the requirements for exaltation is now (see Alma 34:32-34). President Joseph Fielding Smith said, “In order to obtain the exaltation we must accept the gospel and all its covenants; and take upon us the obligations which the Lord has offered; and walk in the light and understanding of the truth; and ‘live by every word that proceedeth forth from the mouth of God’ ” (Doctrines of Salvation, 2:43).To be exalted, we first must place our faith in Jesus Christ and then endure in that faith to the end of our lives. Our faith in him must be such that we repent of our sins and obey his commandments.

He commands us all to receive certain ordinances:

1. We must be baptized and confirmed a member of the Church of Jesus Christ.
2. We must receive the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
3. We must receive the temple endowment.
4. We must be married for time and eternity.

When they claim you must accept the gospel and covenants, they mean all the Mormon material. Because this cult usurps the Bible, by playing as if the Bible is insufficient. When they speak of following what comes from the mouth of God, they mean the mouths of their perverted so-called “prophets”. You should be running from people who try and exalt themselves with titles like “prophet”.

They claim you must have faith in Christ, but that’s not really it. Because they add more. You have to be confirmed and baptized by the cult. Which means someone can’t have a Bible, believe on the Jesus of the Bible and carry out baptisms with others outside of LDS. By the cult’s teachings, that person can’t reach the highest level unless they are approved by the cult. In short, the LDS cult is teaching you can’t make it to the highest without them. It’s their cult, so of course they made up rules that ensure they must be eternity’s gatekeeper. The cult’s leaders are well described in Matthew 23. Making up man made things and claiming they are holy. The cult claims you can’t believe and receive the Holy Spirit, you need one of the cult members to touch you, so they can impart their evil spirits. You can learn the truth about the Holy Spirit here.

The temple endowment is a ceremony made up by the cult. Again, this is to fool people into thinking they must be part of this cult to have any hope of well pleasing God. The cult also teaches you must be married, to be considered for high ranks. Why? Because they want you to be married by them, just another hook! Married so you might raise children into the cult, to swell their ranks. And before their desires for US statehood caused them to make changes, polygamous marriage was preferred and many Mormons would love to have that back. Scripture never mandates someone must be married, or be affirmed by a group to receive eternal life, but this cult does not adhere to scripture. It’s not really about faith in Jesus Christ, because they follow a false jesus.

In regards to what the Mormon cult calls receiving the Holy Ghost, another portion of their web site mentions the following:

After a person is baptized into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, one or more Melchizedek Priesthood holders lay their hands on the person’s head and, in a sacred priesthood ordinance, confirm him or her a member of the Church. As part of this ordinance, called confirmation, the person is given the gift of the Holy Ghost.

They’ve made up their own eternal priesthood! Only firm study in Hebrews 7 and Hebrews 8 can help someone realize why this cult’s claims to Melchizedek Priesthood are BOGUS.

They’ve got a faux Melchizedek Priesthood, a faux Jesus, a faux Holy Ghost from the faux Priesthood and a faux Father. Nothing Christian about it. Names of the Christian faith are simply used to win over people because this cult was started in America and most profess Christianity. Using Christian names is an easy way to fool people into the cult.

But wait, that booklet about “exaltation” has even more hoops one must jump through. I’ll just list a few interesting additional commands below.


5. Pay honest tithes and offerings.
6. Be honest in our dealings with others and with the Lord.

8. Obey the Word of Wisdom.
9. Search out our kindred dead and perform the saving ordinances of the gospel for them.
10. Keep the Sabbath day holy.

16. Study the scriptures.
17. Listen to and obey the inspired words of the prophets of the Lord.

You’ve got to pay that money! It’s always about the money if you want to run a cult that will deceive a wide mass of people. And that hooks into being honest. In their eyes you’re not honest with their faux “lord” if you’re not paying up that mandatory 10%. I’ve explained why what is today called “tithing” is a bogus made up concept.

They say you must obey the “word of wisdom”. That would be whatever the cult makes up.

They are doing ordinances for the dead. Just ridiculous! Jesus never told anyone to try doing some supposedly saving ordinance for a dead person, Matthew 8:22. After a man dies, then comes judgment, no 2nd chances, Hebrews 9:27-28. But cults like playing on the emotions of people, who would like a way to do something for a departed loved one.

Of course they want you to study “scriptures”, that would be what the cult calls scripture. Remember, they don’t feel you can get it all from the Bible alone. They don’t feel the Holy Spirit could have worked to ensure the full message is there. So you’ve got to read all the junk garbage books they tell you to read. (See the Bible versus the Book of Mormon and a video about another of their bogus books.) Then they want you to obey the pimps. (Their so-called “prophets”.) That’s how you keep the deceived in line.

Now here’s the real kicker from the cult’s document on “exaltation”:

The Prophet Joseph Smith taught: “When you climb up a ladder, you must begin at the bottom, and ascend step by step, until you arrive at the top; and so it is with the principles of the Gospel–you must begin with the first, and go on until you learn all the principles of exaltation. But it will be a great while after you have passed through the veil [died] before you will have learned them. It is not all to be comprehended in this world; it will be a great work to learn our salvation and exaltation even beyond the grave” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 348).This is the way our Heavenly Father became God. Joseph Smith taught: “It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God. . . . He was once a man like us; . . . God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 345-46).

Our Heavenly Father knows our trials, our weaknesses, and our sins. He has compassion and mercy on us. He wants us to succeed even as he did.

They feel the Father was once a human who worked his way up. A man with a father who had a father and so on. They just see Jesus as the latest in the line. They feel the Father is not honestly God, but some man who worked his way up in a continuum of “gods”, which they hope to become part of. There is One God who is eternal and One with the Son who has always existed with him, never a “spirit child”, Psalm 90:2, Deuteronomy 6:4, John 10:30, Hebrews 1.

The Father is NOT of flesh and bone, but God is Spirit, John 4:23-24. You can’t worship in Spirit and Truth, when you feel you’re paying homage to an exalted human, that you feel you can be yourself.

The real heresy of Mormonism, is Mormons are striving for the exact same goal as Satan without realizing it.

Isaiah 14:12-15 (New American Standard Bible)

12 “How you have fallen from heaven,
O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth,
You who have weakened the nations!
13 “But you said in your heart,
‘I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne above the stars of God,
And I will sit on the mount of assembly
In the recesses of the north.
14 ‘I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.’
15 “Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Sheol,
To the recesses of the pit.

Read how the cult’s founder Joseph Smith Junior tried to exalt himself above Christ.

I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.

As the apostle Paul warned, like Eve, Mormon followers are being deceived through trickery and use of another jesus, 2 Corinthians 11:3-4.

Anyone in Mormonism/LDS would do best to leave immediately and embrace the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible in faith.

(No comments endorsing the cult of Joseph Smith Junior are allowed here, 2 John 1:10-11.)

update 1/8/2008 2:36PM: I forgot to mention, that Colossians 2 blows away the notion that someone has to keep Sabbath or participate in some mandated observances to receive eternal life. It is about faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, not observances, which would be a salvation of works.



16 Responses to “Why We Know Mormons are Not Christians and Mormonism (LDS) Teaches a False God. Sending Their Followers to the Same Error as Satan.”

  1. truthintheselastdays Says:

    Nail on the head, bullseye, right on the money…I’m running out og expressions for your post, Bro! Mormonism is such a fallacy, a HUGE fallacy, not to mentio rather egotistical, if you think logically about it…

  2. IndependentConservative Says:

    Here’s a good little video:
    Are Mormons Christian ?

  3. Israel Aharonos Says:

    Someone else on this site commented that while in Salt Lake City they felt eerie and that they were uneasy. I have encountered that same feeling while in Salt Lake City, Utah. I can’t really describe it. All I can really say of it was that I felt an air of oppression and even hate. My anxiety reached its peek each day while passing by Temple Square on the way to the corporate branch office. While on the plane going home I realized something that slapped my senses: there was not so much as a cross or any other Christian symbols whatsoever anywhere on or near the Mormon Temple! It was at that moment that I recognized the source of my unease. I had been in Salt Lake for a week at that point and had many personal interactions with Mormons by that time. It was a business trip and I had dined at the homes of several of my Salt Lake associates. My unease was at its worse usually while sitting around the dinner table with Mormons and their families. I think back on the prayer before one meal in particular and recall how ungodly it felt. I felt dirty merely having heard it. I myself am a Jew who has been Saved by Christ and converted into the body of the Christian Church. I looked back on those evenings and realized with astonishment that I had been led into a trap!!! With hindsight I realized that all of the conversations those nights were planned and prepared! It was almost like a conspiracy! I know this sounds crazy, but those conversations and neat little family “presentations” were an act and were designed to open me up to discussing Mormonism (at every meal at least one person had a Book of Mormon either under his chair or otherwise within arms reach. One associate who had traveled with me from my home state was a Mormon who knew I was an active Christian and former Jew. They invited me there and were “so nice” so that they could bring me into a situation where they could attack and attempt to undermine my faith. When I got on the plane to come home I Google searched the names of some of the people who ate dinner with us and found that on each occasion I had been SURROUNDED by no less than four Mormon Bishops and even the son of a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles! Only on one occasion did I permit the subject to come onto religious grounds. The last night I had dinner with them I was rather boldly asked what my religious affiliation was and what I believed. Looking back I see they were losing patience with me since they were not nearly as “nice” that night as they had been on previous evenings. I believe that Christ took hold of me that night and guided my mouth and gave me wisdom. To the question I only replied: “I am a Christian of the Body of Christ’s Holy Church. Christ alone is my Lord and Savior. He redeemed me from a dead faith and made my life a testimony of His Grace.” With those words the evening rapidly drew to a close as they were unwilling to push their luck any further. I feel that the Spirit protected me that night and that the Spirit spoke through me and put disquiet into their hearts. I was not invited to anyone’s home the following night. A few months later I was forced to go back to Salt Lake to supervise the opening of a new office and this time rented a car. While navigating the city I discovered that on my previous trip I had been driven by Temple Square each Morning and afternoon along a circuitous route each day that took us nearly a mile and a half out of our way. I spent two weeks in Salt Lake on my second trip and out of those fourteen days I was not so much as invited out to eat a Whopper for lunch. The wife of the senior man at the Salt Lake office who had me in her home for dinner on 3 occasions on my previous trip even snubbed me one afternoon when she came to the office to bring her husband his lunch. Later that year when I went through my mandatory company evaluation I discovered that my performance and leadership had been very harshly criticized by the management and office personnel of the Salt Lake office. What I found interesting were the performance evaluation they had completed at mid-week rating my performance as very high. I read each of the anonymous evaluations and noted that each was dated for May 16, which was the day after the last dinner party. I had been black-balled. That experience has colored my every perception of the Mormon Church and its members. Never in my life have I ever been dealt with under such false pretense. Never have I been treated in such a dishonest and evil manner. They were willing to endanger my family’s livelihood.

  4. IndependentConservative Says:

    Israel Aharonos, thank you for sharing that with us.

    Let’s just say I used to allow Mormons to comment here and discuss things a little, but after I realized an honest conversation was next to impossible I had to stop allowing Mormons to comment.

    I just pray they come to know the truth as the Lord wills.

  5. art123 Says:

    These Mormons come to my neighborhood on their bikes and white shirts and black pants, knocking on people’s doors with their doctrines. I don’t want to hear it.

  6. art123 Says:

    When you talk about Satan’s error, are you referring to Isaiah 14:12-14?

  7. IndependentConservative Says:

    Yes.

  8. Israel Aharonos Says:

    art123,

    If ever a pair of mormon missionaries or J—vah’s Witness’ come to your home to preach you must never let them step foot into your home. Don’t let them pass the threshold. That’s not to say that a mormon or JW can’t come into your home,just not in that capacity. The last time I locked horns with mormon missionaries they wanted me to “pray” with them. NEVER do this.

  9. IndependentConservative Says:

    And I’ve even had to extend 2 John 1:10-11 to my blog with some that do nothing but spread bad doctrine without ceasing.

  10. art123 Says:

    Good advice. Thank you Israel.

  11. Israel Aharonos Says:

    IndependentConservative,

    I know exactly what you mean. I have had too many up close and personal dealings with “zealous” Mormons. It is as you say almost impossible to have an honest conversation with them on topics such as history or religion. The first thing a person usually notices is an atmosphere of arrogance and conceit. As a rule you can never teach most Mormons anything and they proceed with the assumption that no matter what you think you know about the Bible or Christianity they always as Mormons know more about God and his will than you. I am frequently astonished at how quickly they can dismiss or rationalize such Scriptures such as Isaiah which completely cast down Mormon doctrines. I cannot understand how they can misperceive reality as they do.

    I once attempted to distinguish Mormon doctrines and beliefs from Christianity and the Bible using an atheistic or agnostic perspective as a basis. That was probably a mistake on my part but my premise was to demonstrate how even an outside and decidedly non-Christian perspective had no difficulty discerning what constituted Christianity and what did not. In order to correctly interpret the Bible we do not need to first be taught what the Bible is supposed to mean. Mormon arguments rely entirely on reading the Bible through a filter which aligns it in a very roundabout way to their beliefs. They love to reject the face value of biblical verse, and relish adapting it to suit their ends such as in the case of James 1:5 which they use as justification for their “testimony”. They completely ignore the Scripture before and after verse 5 and take James completely out of context. They entirely ignore the fact that James explicitly addresses himself to his “Brethren”, signifying those who believe in Christ, and never intended James 1:5 to be used as a device for discerning truth by non-believers. This verse was intended as to aid Believers in times of trouble and doubt. It teaches that we should trust in God and wait on Him, praying and in deep study of His Word the Bible to find wisdom. We usually already know the answer we seek but need prayer and the Bible for us to accept what we knew all along. That is we need the strength and courage to do what is right. The Bible tells us that the Word of God is the only stick by which spiritual truth is measured.

    If ever you get a leg up on a Mormon (most of the time) during a religious debate you will quickly find yourself speaking with an angry, spiteful, and hateful person who will then proceed to attack your honor and character and accuse you of hate and bigotry. That is the primary defense of Mormons and their church when confronted by Christians who will not run away from them and choose to stand their ground. They will call you an “Anti-Mormon” and use this as a basis for slandering and discrediting you in the eyes of others. On two occasions I have had Mormon missionaries call me an Anti-Mormon, though it was they who approached me and told me that my beliefs were false. Their usual line goes something like: “It’s apparent from just talking to you for a few minutes that your heart is full of lies and hate and you really just need to pray with a sincere heart and ask God to reveal the truth to you.”

    They get really annoyed when they find out you know the Scriptures. Back a few months ago a pair of LDS lady missionaries approached my wife and me on the streets of Downtown Little Rock while we were Christmas shopping. After a discussion of 10-15 minutes (throughout which they attempted to completely dominate the conversation by repeatedly cutting us off and not allowing us to relate one coherent thought) one of them commented that I “obviously don’t know the fullness of God’s Word and need to study it and pray to Him to find the Truth.” At that moment I remembered a slick little trick I once heard and asked this young lady: “Since you “obviously” know more about God’s Word the Bible than I, perhaps you can tell me which testament contains the Book of Hezekiah?” In their typical self-assured and semi-mocking tone they both informed my wife and I that the “Book of Hezekiah” was in the Old Testament! Just to make my point absolutely clear and to demonstrate to those who had gathered round that there was no possibility that they had merely misunderstood me, I asked the question once again and stressed the word “BOOK” this time. They stuck to their guns and reaffirmed that it was in the Old Testament. I asked these young ladies if either of them was carrying a Bible (one of them did) and asked them to take it out and read to us the first verse of the “Book of Hezekiah.” First she flipped through the pages. After a few attempts at this she looked in the table of content. Here I told her not to bother because she wasn’t going to find it, since the “Book of Hezekiah” does not exist. Their faces immediately shot red and a gentleman standing to my right began to laugh. After calling me an Anti-Mormon and accusing me of being a liar (they were almost screaming at this point and were making a scene) they mounted their bicycles and peddled away.

    Mormons have an amazing talent for distorting the truth and for reinterpreting the world around them. What could cause this? Is it mass delusion, or something far more sinister? Mitt Romney is an excellent example of this. Even when caught red handed in a bold faced lie, he will not own up to it. Even Bill Clinton had the marginal amount of character necessary to come clean when the jig was up (sometimes).

  12. IndependentConservative Says:

    Israel Aharonos,

    I cannot understand how they can misperceive reality as they do.

    It’s called “strong delusion” as noted in 2 Thessalonians 2. Only the Lord can lift it as He wills.

    Mormon arguments rely entirely on reading the Bible through a filter which aligns it in a very roundabout way to their beliefs.

    That would be a filter of delusion. It’s sort of like the deluded filter we who got out of the Word of Faith/Prosperity doctrine heresies had lifted from our eyes.

    It teaches that we should trust in God and wait on Him, praying and in deep study of His Word the Bible to find wisdom.

    Well how do you get someone to understand that, when they believe the words of a man who simply made things up? Things that have no basis in scriptural or historical fact at all. It really takes an act of almighty God for them to see clearly.

    If ever you get a leg up on a Mormon (most of the time) during a religious debate you will quickly find yourself speaking with an angry, spiteful, and hateful person who will then proceed to attack your honor and character and accuse you of hate and bigotry.

    Yea just like with the Word of Faith people I debate. Once all else fails for them, they pull the “you don’t love” card. I guess approving of heresy and sending us all to hell would be the loving way to go about it 🙄 .

    They will call you an “Anti-Mormon” and use this as a basis for slandering and discrediting you in the eyes of others.

    Hey, you’ve been called that too! You know the younger Mormons just call us “Anti’s” for short.

    Their usual line goes something like: “It’s apparent from just talking to you for a few minutes that your heart is full of lies and hate and you really just need to pray with a sincere heart and ask God to reveal the truth to you.”

    They hope you’ll get that “fire in your belly/bosom” as they call it. You know, I’ve found Joseph Smith Junior’s bosom fire in scripture. God totally let us know such fire exists and I totally believe Joseph Smith Junior had it.

    Proverbs 6:26-29 (New American Standard Bible)

    26 For on account of a harlot one is reduced to a loaf of bread,
    And an adulteress hunts for the precious life.
    27 Can a man take fire in his bosom
    And his clothes not be burned?
    28 Or can a man walk on hot coals
    And his feet not be scorched?
    29 So is the one who goes in to his neighbor’s wife;
    Whoever touches her will not go unpunished.

    That is not any sort of fire that we ever want to have. Joseph Smith Junior was with a lot of men’s wives.

    You mentioned being approached by two lady “missionaries”. I’ve always seen men doing it. You mean they have women doing it too? I thought just their fake “elders” (who don’t come close to 1 Timothy 3 qualifications of a church elder) were the ones who did it.

    They called you a liar and were almost screaming, insane. I know once one of their guys looked like he wanted to get physical with me after I told them some things about their cult’s founder, that they didn’t care to hear about. Here’s a video of them fighting each other in one of their own classes. So I guess they practice that sort of thing 😆 .

    Is it mass delusion, or something far more sinister?

    Well I gave you my thoughts on it.

    Yup, Mitt Romney lies and given his affiliation I’m not surprised. He’s got one major trait of a publican down cold.

  13. Israel Aharonos Says:

    Yep, they’ve got female missionaries too. They were wearing ankle length skirts and the usual little LDS name badge. One of them was from Canada and the other was from Germany (this is the one who was most hung up on herself). Not only did I get the usual “I’m a Latter Day Saint thing” but I also had them looking down their noses at me with that “silly little American” thing. She seemed downright shocked when she found out both my wife and myself speak perfect German (my wife is Austrian). They made a big scene when they realized they had made themselves look like idiots in front of a crowd of people. I really don’t know how they were fooled by it. Even when I was 10 I wouldn’t have fallen for that one. “Book of Hezekiah”? Give me a break. I might be able to understand a native German speaker perhaps misunderstanding me, but the Canadian girl from Toronto couldn’t possibly explain her way out of that one. I guess they REALLY don’t know the Bible at all if they fell for that one. Sure, a lot of them carry a Bible but I don’t think they ever use it or study it in anyway other than as a sort of reference book. Pretty sad.

    I’ve talked with former LDS who seem to have completely changed. Even they can’t believe that they ever fell for that nonsense they were taught. It may sound a bit out there but the thought has occurred to me that many of these people might be demon possessed. I think that is a very real possibility for LDS leadership such as their Seventy, the 12 apostles, and most especially for their “prophet” Gordon Hinckley. He thinks he’s talking to someone, and perhaps he is. It’s pretty scary stuff.

  14. IndependentConservative Says:

    Sure, a lot of them carry a Bible but I don’t think they ever use it or study it in anyway other than as a sort of reference book. Pretty sad.

    Exactly, scripture is NOT their first and last authority, the lies of Joseph Smith Junior and their desires to be “gods” are.

    Even they can’t believe that they ever fell for that nonsense they were taught.

    I can’t believe I feel for the Word of Faith/Prosperity garbage once upon a time.

    It’s possible their higher ups are controlled by or highly influenced by demonic spirits. And when a man is supposedly translating from having his head in his hat (Joseph Smith Junior) he’s probably receiving direct counsel from Satan.

    And of course this is not of God at all:
    Secret Magic Mormon Handshake

  15. Israel Aharonos Says:

    Those videos are great! It’s funny how much they resemble the occult handshakes of modern Satanist and practitioners of witchcraft. That’s probably because they ARE the very same handshakes! I wonder to what degree people like Gordon Hinckley are complicit in their acts. Perhaps he truly believes the crap he’s spewing. On the other hand he may be a willing participant in the devils work.

    One thing I find so mind blowing about Mormon beliefs is the systematic denial of the most sacred Christian doctrines. It’s as though they gave Lucifer a pen and a notebook and asked him to list everything he hates most about Christ and His church.

    Check these two videos out. They are absolutely hilarious. They tell you pretty much all you need to know about Mitt Romney.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3urX7ijSNc

  16. Israel Aharonos Says:

    Check out the voting statistics in Wyoming, and Nevada. Romney says that it is wrong to not vote for a candidate because they are of a particular religion or denomination. Apparently the reverse is not true. It is apparently quite good to vote for a candidate solely because of their religious affiliations. It looks like over half of Romney’s votes in Nevada came from his fellow Mormons. Hypocrisy. There is that “block voting” thing that Mormons are so infamous for. I’m no historian, but wasn’t that one of the things the Mormons did to stir up so much animosity among their neighbours back in the 19th century?

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