January 7, 2008

Modern Hip Hop Culture and Pro$perity (Prosperity) Doctrine are Conjoined Twins!

by @ 3:41 pm. Filed under The Truth Shall Set you Free!

This one makes it plain and takes no prisoners! See the video below.

Hip-Hop & The Pro$perity Gospel

2 Peter 2:1-5 (New American Standard Bible)

1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. 2 Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;

3 and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;

5 and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly;

I certainly need not say more.

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13 Responses to “Modern Hip Hop Culture and Pro$perity (Prosperity) Doctrine are Conjoined Twins!”

  1. Four Pointer Says:

    Prosperity pimps meet hip-hop…

    Found this video over at Independent Conservative. If you ever wonder why we call prosperity preachers “pimps”–well here ya go. Complete with clips of Jay-Z, Notorious B.I.G., Creflo “worshippin’ the Almighty Dollar,” and Junie B. herself. Video …

  2. godlysoldier Says:

    My God…this video really makes it plain…my 15year old and 22 year old sons just watched with me and they could not believe the words that came from Creflo’s mouth and the sickening “similiarity” with the pulpit sermons and the secular videos! They both said “man that’s just wrong and those preachers just ain’t right…how is “money” supposed to be the only thing that can bring us peace…I thought Jesus was all we needed for peace” (that’s my boys) Even they could see the pimps for what they were at 15 and 22 and yet we have grown, bible toting, scripture quoting sheeple that get “offended” when you try to tell them the truth! How horrible the sheeple in the sanctuary that stand up and clap for this mess! THANK GOD FOR DELIVERANCE FROM THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL AND PIMPS…I PRAY THE EYES OF THOSE STILL IN DARKNESS WILL BE ENLIGHTENED!

  3. IndependentConservative Says:

    Praise the Lord your children see the truth.

  4. trayjay Says:

    I wonder if all of the hollywooders who have committed and attempted suicide would say that all they needed was money to have peace? But, didn’t they already have the money? Oh well. I guess there’s no truth to what Creepflow said about peace being obtained by getting money or those poor people would still be alive. But we already know that he doesn’t know any truth. That idiot will probably have his casket lined with Benjamins.

  5. 2thehilt Says:

    Thanks for posting this video, IC. Several churches I have been to have used the practice of calling money, like they were calling a lost dog. It’s a real shame. What ever happened to Matthew 6:33? I guess nobody preaches that any more. Or if they do, they twist it so that it will relate only to bling.

  6. 2thehilt Says:

    Ahhh, well, I see that Cashflow is helping to train the pimps to be pimps, right out of the gate. Take a look at this article and pay specific attention to the last paragraph.

    Anybody want to venture a guess as to what the 8 steps are??? 🙂

  7. IndependentConservative Says:

    I can only describe it as a total mess!

  8. art123 Says:

    I wasn’t able to watch all of it, but from what I gather by watching it, the church is so apostate that they are friends of the world which makes them enemies of God. The bible is a tried and true book that has been proven over and over, including fulfilled prophecies of the ‘falling away’. It is bad to be caught between two evils whose messages are the same: get rich or die trying.

  9. SoliDeoGloriaFella Says:

    The church is too busy trying to make Forbes Top 50.

    Check Genesis 3, Its God they want to be.

  10. Queen Ahuva Says:

    I agree that there has been excess and the properity doctrine is mis-leading, but that does not mean that yahweh does not prosper his people.I think that people valsilate between poverty and prosperity. I do not support all the excess being preached, but I also don’t supoort you have to be living under the freeway to prove you are a child of God. I think first of all we have to ask God for discernement regarding such matters and see BALANCE. Some things are painfully obvious, but we still need to pray, lest we judge incorrectly. I went to a women’s retereat some years ago and the guest minister drove up in a beautiful black mercedes. I could see the women already judging her. assuming she had used ministry money to buy the car. Although she was under no obligation to do so, in her opening message she shared with the women that her car was not purchased with ministry money, she and her husband have a construction business and her husband bought her the car from the business profits. Even after explaining this, some of the women STILL had the attitude she should not have the car and who does she think she is? That somehow driving up in a beat up back-firng jalopy would “qualify” her to be a minister of Yahweh. If we look at the scriptures not everybody was on the same economic level but they were all God’s people. Solomon lived in a palace with Gold, Silver, and bronze, Abraham dwelled in tents. Jacob started out witht he shirt on his back, he died a wealthy man. Elijah was a man of Yahweh, but I read no account of him having wealth. In fact he had to rely on Yahweh to feed him every day. Joseph was sold as a slave, but beame the second in command to the Pharoah with egypts wealth at his disposal. Moses had the wealth of Egypt at his disposal too but chose to do without those luxuries to serve Yahweh and his people. Y’shua (Jesus) said to seek first the Kingdom Of Yahweh and all the things we need would be added unto us. And that means different things for different people because he knows what each of us can handle without being destroyed by his blessings. But the pursuit should be Yahweh himself, not the stuff and that is where these ministers go wrong. I think no matter how people live, there is always going to be someone criticizing if they live in the park or a palace, if they are driving a benz or a yugo. because instead of seeking Yahwehs wisdom in such matters, people establish their own rightousness and judge people from that. Yahweh is not against us having things, as long as they do not become and idol and we do not forsake Yahweh in the process. But in his wisdom he knows who can handle what without forsaking him in the process.

  11. IndependentConservative Says:

    Not that saints need to live in poverty, but the names you cited from scripture are old covenant figures. Where many more of the rewards were in earthly riches, which was a mere reflection of what can be had in Christ in Heavenly things.

    What Jesus was speaking of in Matthew 6:33 is not about earthly rewards at all. You might want to read the account of those words in Luke 12:22-34 for a more clear understanding. It’s about the same reward for all of us, the Kingdom of Heaven and how much treasure we store up for ourselves there, not at all about getting riches here.

    Consider that we who are living under the new covenant know of the Heavenly rewards, that those in the old covenant were not made as aware of in their time. After the resurrection of Christ, you see a much different pattern when viewing how the early church figures lived.

    Again, I’m not saying saints need to feel they must be in poverty. I’m not saying anyone should have held animosity towards a woman who owns a nice car from earnings in private business. However, the cornerstone for the church is Christ and the apostles laid the foundation on that. They certainly sought the Kingdom of Heaven first and did not roll in earthly riches.

    The Lord wills what He feels each should have, on that your final conclusion we agree.

  12. Queen Ahuva Says:

    I have read the scripture references you have pointed out many times and I understand what Y’shua was saying. I said in my response that the first and foremost pursuit whould always be the kingdom of Yaheweh and if along the way Yahweh does bless people with material things, we must not put our trust in the stuff. The problem with alot of belivers is that while at times they are correct to address the excess promoted from alot of prosperity preachers, they also condemn other believers who have truly been blessd by Yahweh with finacial resources as if they are heretics. The bottom line should be at the end of the day, we need to keep our own eyes on Yahweh and our walk with him none of us have the corner market on Yahweh and who he blesses with what. The comment made about the old covenant figures and that somehow the material possesions were more relevant before Y’shua came on the scene is not true. Consider this passage of scripture.

    Mark 10:17-31

    And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?

    18And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

    19Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

    20And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.

    21Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

    22And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.

    23And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!

    24And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!

    25It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

    26And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?

    27And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

    28Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.

    29And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel’s,

    30But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

    31But many that are first shall be last; and the last first

    Sounds to me that Y’shua is saying that it is possible ( I said POSSIBLE not probably) to have blessing and rewards her and in the world to come, but according to what he wills for each person, but the priority was to follow him.

  13. IndependentConservative Says:

    Queen Ahuva, just an FYI, you can always use the “reply to this comment” link, to reply directly under a comment you’re addressing.

    Yes it is possible that someone receive material wealth in this life while being totally focused on the Lord and having salvation by faith on the Son of God. Having been drawn to Him by the Father. Now considering Mark 10:17-31, we have to accept that the apostles of the Lord Jesus did give up all for Him. As Peter stated in verse 28. And we see in 1 Corinthians 4:11-13 how they continually lived. And even recommended their ways be imitated, 1 Corinthians 4:16. They were imitators of Christ, 1 Corinthians 11:1. Christ being our perfect example.

    So the apostles had people that would grant them lodging, they had brothers, sisters, mothers, children, lands God opened doors to for them to minister to, even land people sold and gave to them to administer, which they in turn gave to those in need. They also had persecutions. They did not simply live in lavish wealth. They were homeless because they truly continually gave all for Christ and because of their own charity others extended alms to them to continue in the ministry of the gospel. And they had great persecutions, far more persecution than we have seen.

    So if someone receives that 100 fold as the apostles experienced, scripture shows that in their continuing to forsake all for Christ, they’re going to be the most homeless of us all, living off others charity and facing persecution till something like a beheading.

    So when I see Mark 10:17-31 I also consider those who actually walked in that, to understand how it really plays out. It’s not 100 fold and the easy life, it’s 100 fold with persecution you would not wish on most.

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