For the record, Tina Jamina is Queen Ahuva and is also trying to get in with another account using a name’s name, that will not be approved. You who run blogs know how I know these are all the same, aside from the fact they all showed up within minutes of Queen Ahuva being banned.

But Queen Ahuva claims to stand for Christ. Ah, Queen Ahuva, using deception is not exactly a godly way of going about things. You might want to stop such acts. Be a woman (or man) of your word and go as you said you would.

But I knew you were not to be trusted as true to your word. I knew you would not actually go away. So goodbye again.

(By the way, I know a broadcaster in LA that would not like hearing what someone [and her friends there] are doing on their internet connection. So cut it out. Yes I will report you all if you keep it up and you can call whoever you wish about it.)

If you wish to entertain debate never ending, please start a blog and show how it should be done.

You do not know Jim Baker’s heart or motives.

What do I need to do, wait for another scandal?

The man has less to qualify him for church leadership than before.

King David was caught, he repented and God forgave him.

God appointed King David, not Jim. David was not caught, rather exposed by God through the prophet Nathan, 2 Samuel 12. Jim was false from the start and anybody with 2 eyes could see his former spouse was about as nutty as Jan Crouch. And Jim was back before she even died, 2 wives, terrible reputation that is not from prior to him claiming the Lord’s name, but you still stand with him. He can repent, that does not do away with 1 Timothy 3 and the fact he’s no longer qualified. I’ll use that as my guide of who to embrace as a church leader.

Then you ramble on again about King David:

But had you been there you would have asked God to send him to hell and condemed him not as a man after Yahweh’s own heart but a false king and a false leader.

Given the qualifications were different during that dispensation I think I would have kept my mouth shut.

When the religious leaders threw the woman CAUGHT in adultery at Y’shua’s feet, You would probably been the first one in line to throw a rock at her head.

I’m not sure what it is with defenders of pimps including folks like you wishing I would desire to kill someone, but it’s not godly, whatever it is that causes such suggestions.

I cannot speak for any of these people and where they stand before Yahweh.

Because you need to grow in discernment. Which is why you give some false teachers a pat on the back, while realizing some others that are more obvious are false.

Ephesians 5:11 (New American Standard Bible)

11 Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them;

Ask God for wisdom and He will give it to you.

…the same measure of damning judgement you are dishing out to others will come back on your head when you fall short because the same Most HIGH that is watching Joel and the rest is also paying close attention you, my friend and I hope in that day when you need grace when you fall short of the Glory of Yahweh and have to eat a slice of humble pie for your transgressions that you will not receive the full measure of the condemnation you have seen fit to decide that others deserve.

If I start pimping for money, if I start spreading new age junk as the gospel, if I claim church leadership then act a fool and wish to return to leadership with a 2nd wife, it would be fitting if God brought condemnation on me, as He will the false teachers, even the ones you support and defend, if they don’t repent. I don’t say there is no possibility they might come to the truth, but I do actively warn the sheep of what they are up to now. Sometimes someone does not get it, that’s where you come in playing defense for a pimp.

Maybe then you will learn compassion.

If I didn’t have compassion for fellow saints and desiring they not be deceived by a deceiver I guess I would shut things down and make you happy.

Regarding your reference to Luke 9:53-56, it’s the Lord that has some of us sounding the alarm against these false teachers. So the sheep get the warning. There you go again with thoughts I’d like to “destroy” someone . If speaking against someone is “raining fire down”, you need to take a look at what you’ve written towards me.

Your last comment has text from Romans 14:4. You defenders of pimps are too predictable. I’ve been waiting for you to come with that one. Now how about you read Romans 14 in full and realize it’s about opinions of matters not diverting from essential doctrine. When men preach godliness as a means for earthly gain, that is specifically spoken against in 1 Timothy 6 and in all your words you have not dared touch that scripture, because you know it exposes Osteen’s New Age game. A game YOU LIKE.

But your lame “4th in the Godhead” remark has worn thin. I warned you when you’ve come with it previously. So you’re gone. Try a little humility “Queen”. You said you were leaving, I’ve made sure of that.

4Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

I will say this and I will leave you alone in your self-righteous stance. I cannot speak for any of these people and where they stand before Yahweh. And contrary to the belief you may hold about them, Yahweh still loves them, and he will deal with them at the right time and place for any transgressions they are guilty of. The only difference bewteen their screw-ups and yours, mine and every other person on this planet is that ours are not televised on 60 minutes or you-tube. When you screw-up you can repent in private, but if you continue to carry this self-righteous, I know the heart of every man woman and child in ministry and I know who deserves to go to hell, who is a false teacher and if they do repent I KNOW PERSONALLY THEY DON”T MEAN IT, Your harping proves I am more right than you are, and who is not sincere about repentence attitude, the same measure of damning judgement you are dishing out to others will come back on your head when you fall short because the same Most HIGH that is watching Joel and the rest is also paying close attention you, my friend and I hope in that day when you need grace when you fall short of the Glory of Yahweh and have to eat a slice of humble pie for your transgressions that you will not receive the full measure of the condemnation you have seen fit to decide that others deserve. Maybe then you will learn compassion.

Luke 9:53-56 (Amplified Bible)

53But [the people] would not welcome or receive or accept Him, because His face was [set as if He was] going to Jerusalem.

54And when His disciples James and John observed this, they said, Lord, do You wish us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, [a]even as Elijah did ? [II Kings 1:9-16.]

55But He turned and rebuked and severely censured them. [b]He said, You do not know of what sort of spirit you are,

56For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them [c][from the penalty of eternal death]. And they journeyed on to another village.

and Sunday worship

Exactly how much of the old law do you desire Christians keep? You need to read this: THEY CHANGED THE SABBATH TO SUNDAY.

Days observed to the Lord is Romans 14. But claiming godliness is a means for gain is warned against in…(everyone should know by now) 1 Timothy 6. So your efforts to equate Osteen to a day of observance are just horribly, horribly lame.

It is called turn and burn sermons.

I always thought it was called TURN OR BURN, we don’t want people to turn so they will burn .

So I find your efforts to harp about Easter eggs (and such) bolsters my case far more than your own. What Osteen is doing is the equivalent of making Easter eggs church doctrine, nobody is doing that who even has an Easter egg hunt in their own back yard, because they are not acting like God is all about some colored eggs.

Being under grace does not mean you claim godliness is a means for personal gain, again we’re back to 1 Timothy 6, words written under grace. When a pastor speaking to millions says godliness is about an Easter egg, please let me know. I’ll certainly have to make a post about them too.

Regarding Pharisees, we know Paul WAS ONCE one, but didn’t claim to be after coming to Christ and debated against those of the party of the Pharisee after conversion, see Acts 15. The Words of Gamaliel, Pharisee and teacher of the law in Acts 5 are the words of an unregenerate man. That was a debate over whether to KILL PETER. We have no such desires to harm anyone. Your reference to Acts 5 is misguided in many ways. As pathetic as the “touch not mine anointed” line.

Regarding Pharisee who rejected Christ, died and now burn in hell, concerning their keeping Hebrew scriptures when among the living, God uses plenty of people who are evil for good. Just as He used an occult fan name King James, to authorize an English translation of scripture. He even hardened the heart of Pharaoh to show His power, Exodus 4:21, to ultimately crush Pharaoh. And those Pharisee who rejected Christ, but maintained Hebrew scriptures for saints, those Pharisee burn in hell along side Pharaoh.

Regarding those turned over to Satan for destruction, they were welcomed back if they turned from their evil ways.

The same false teacher has come to you twice and you’re embracing him the 2nd time, when he has less to meet the 1 Timothy 3 standard than before.