Comments on: More Vipers Might Face Government Scrutiny. http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/26/more_pimps_4_govt/ The Independent Conservative saying what needs to be said! Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:35:55 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/26/more_pimps_4_govt/comment-page-1/#comment-7852 art123 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:04:38 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/26/more_pimps_4_govt/#comment-7852 Absolutely, IC.  I meant the ministries that has the tares not the wheat. Absolutely, IC.  I meant the ministries that has the tares not the wheat.

]]> By: Yvette http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/26/more_pimps_4_govt/comment-page-1/#comment-7851 Yvette Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:31:36 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/26/more_pimps_4_govt/#comment-7851 If people will not heed the voice of the people of God shouting the warnings He will and does use world systems (governments) for the sake of His people. How many times have people like you been the ones called heretics for telling people to follow God and not these 'christian superstars'? Two words that do not long belong in the same sentence 'christian' and 'superstar'. How many times have you and others had to endure ridicule and hateful words from other claiming you were doing the work of the devil because you would dare obey God and not sit back and say nothing? I wonder how many times people like you have been the subject of 10 min sermons that follow after the hour long pimping session that they call praise and worship which leads into the offering then into more praise and worship where the name of Jesus is rarely if ever mentioned? Don't they realize that it is the mercy of God that has allowed them time to repent and change their ways, but they refused. My pastor was at some meeting at PTL before they fell and Kenneth Copeland was speaking. My pastor said that he said God had told him to preach on repentance. Which he did for about 6 months. Then on TBN he said that the offerings were reducing so he is no longer going to speak on repentance and sin. And you know what has happened since then with 'we are little gods' Copeland. Don't people realize God's silence did not mean He approved. He might have been waiting until there were more mature christians around to be able to catch the weaker ones when everything was exposed. For most of us we are not suprised by all of this, but to the weaker ones this could destroy many with little faith because it was built on sand (money, emotions and busy works) and not solid rock (the word). If people will not heed the voice of the people of God shouting the warnings He will and does use world systems (governments) for the sake of His people. How many times have people like you been the ones called heretics for telling people to follow God and not these ‘christian superstars’? Two words that do not long belong in the same sentence ‘christian’ and ’superstar’. How many times have you and others had to endure ridicule and hateful words from other claiming you were doing the work of the devil because you would dare obey God and not sit back and say nothing? I wonder how many times people like you have been the subject of 10 min sermons that follow after the hour long pimping session that they call praise and worship which leads into the offering then into more praise and worship where the name of Jesus is rarely if ever mentioned? Don’t they realize that it is the mercy of God that has allowed them time to repent and change their ways, but they refused.
My pastor was at some meeting at PTL before they fell and Kenneth Copeland was speaking. My pastor said that he said God had told him to preach on repentance. Which he did for about 6 months. Then on TBN he said that the offerings were reducing so he is no longer going to speak on repentance and sin. And you know what has happened since then with ‘we are little gods’ Copeland. Don’t people realize God’s silence did not mean He approved. He might have been waiting until there were more mature christians around to be able to catch the weaker ones when everything was exposed. For most of us we are not suprised by all of this, but to the weaker ones this could destroy many with little faith because it was built on sand (money, emotions and busy works) and not solid rock (the word).

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/26/more_pimps_4_govt/comment-page-1/#comment-7850 IndependentConservative Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:36:21 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/26/more_pimps_4_govt/#comment-7850 <blockquote>Therefore, it is agreed that if you take 100 ministries down, 200+ of them can rise up. </blockquote> Let's be accurate in our wording :) .  We want pimps and vipers to fall, not real ministries ;) . I'm sure everyone knows what you're talking about, but we don't want to risk anyone making a mistake about intentions.

Therefore, it is agreed that if you take 100 ministries down, 200+ of them can rise up.

Let’s be accurate in our wording :) .  We want pimps and vipers to fall, not real ministries ;) .

I’m sure everyone knows what you’re talking about, but we don’t want to risk anyone making a mistake about intentions.

]]> By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/26/more_pimps_4_govt/comment-page-1/#comment-7848 art123 Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:38:00 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/26/more_pimps_4_govt/#comment-7848 After such scandals of the eighties like the Jim and Tammy Bakker scandal, Jimmy Swaggert and the Tilton scandal of the 90's, you would think that folks have learned not to give their money to TV ministries.  Joyce Meyer's ministry was very small in the eighties and now look how its flourish.  Therefore, it is agreed that if you take 100 ministries down, 200+ of them can rise up.  It is our responsibility to search our scriptures and heed to the Spirit of God for ourselves and you can continue to warn the weak and unstable about these ministries.  One more thing we must consider: the prophecies must be fulfilled before the second return of  Jesus Christ. After such scandals of the eighties like the Jim and Tammy Bakker scandal, Jimmy Swaggert and the Tilton scandal of the 90’s, you would think that folks have learned not to give their money to TV ministries.  Joyce Meyer’s ministry was very small in the eighties and now look how its flourish.  Therefore, it is agreed that if you take 100 ministries down, 200+ of them can rise up.  It is our responsibility to search our scriptures and heed to the Spirit of God for ourselves and you can continue to warn the weak and unstable about these ministries.  One more thing we must consider: the prophecies must be fulfilled before the second return of  Jesus Christ.

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