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	<title>Comments on: Jesse Jackson Says Government Housing Should Feature Treadmills, Ellipticals, Skating Rinks and MORE! (Audio)</title>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/26/jesse_jackson_still_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-6660</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said &lt;cite&gt;Ron_B!&lt;/cite&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Ron_B</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/26/jesse_jackson_still_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-6659</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The audio link can be found on my sister blog site: 
http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2007/10/conditioned-mentality-of-ghetto-and.html

Here is another segment of the interview:
http://www.infosynergy.com/audio/1.mp3

More to come.&#160; It is very difficult for me to stomach getting through them all.

I believe that some of our Christian brothern confuse Jesus&#039; request to help the poor with their will to have a captive audience of poor people for them to receive a warm feeling in their hearts upon helping someone.&#160; Since God &quot;did not make no junk&quot; as the old saying had it...we cannot allow people to perpetuate behavior that places them out of alignment of their full, God given potential only to have us step in as &quot;Christians&quot; and rescue them via a church service project.&#160; It is incumbent upon the Christian to assist the person in his transformation so that he might receive salvation and a better living for those who he is responsible for raising in this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The audio link can be found on my sister blog site:<br />
<a href="http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2007/10/conditioned-mentality-of-ghetto-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2007/10/conditioned-mentality-of-ghetto-and.html</a></p>
<p>Here is another segment of the interview:<br />
<a href="http://www.infosynergy.com/audio/1.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.infosynergy.com/audio/1.mp3</a></p>
<p>More to come.&nbsp; It is very difficult for me to stomach getting through them all.</p>
<p>I believe that some of our Christian brothern confuse Jesus&#8217; request to help the poor with their will to have a captive audience of poor people for them to receive a warm feeling in their hearts upon helping someone.&nbsp; Since God &quot;did not make no junk&quot; as the old saying had it&#8230;we cannot allow people to perpetuate behavior that places them out of alignment of their full, God given potential only to have us step in as &quot;Christians&quot; and rescue them via a church service project.&nbsp; It is incumbent upon the Christian to assist the person in his transformation so that he might receive salvation and a better living for those who he is responsible for raising in this world.</p>
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		<title>By: healtheland</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/26/jesse_jackson_still_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-6657</link>
		<dc:creator>healtheland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on IC, this is hilarious, and for so many reasons. What ISN&#039;T hilarious is all of these religious right types endorsing Romney and Giuliani.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on IC, this is hilarious, and for so many reasons. What ISN&#8217;T hilarious is all of these religious right types endorsing Romney and Giuliani.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/26/jesse_jackson_still_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-6656</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;h3 id=&quot;comments&quot;&gt;fourpointer - your government forgot to add the treadmills and ellipticals.&#160; No wonder the problems are still there. :lol: &lt;/h3&gt; 
I agree just tossing people money would not help.&#160; Saints are supposed to give to saints first &lt;em&gt;(our own house, as in those in God&#039;s house)&lt;/em&gt; and to others after that in outreach &lt;strong&gt;ministry&lt;/strong&gt;.&#160; As in providing for spiritual needs while helping minister to physical needs.&#160; That has to all be done with discernment.&#160; You don&#039;t give if you KNOW the gift is going to be abused.&#160; You give when you see there is hope for it meeting needs.&#160; Personally I usually give to missions when helping the poor, because missions deliver the ministry and hold people to a standard in trying to stop them from simply wanting another hand out.

I mentioned the daycare idea though, because with that you&#039;re helping the children who are most impressionable.&#160; And if it&#039;s not government sponsored you can tell them about Christ free from government mess.&#160; Meaning you can minister to young minds all day long.&#160; Honestly, although there are still homeless people, government provides for the basic needs of people who are poor and if churches changed their focus to helping the poor, they could focus on something like child daycare and get some kids rooted in a good foundation.&#160; &lt;strong&gt;BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS GET HOLD OF THEM!!!&#160;&lt;/strong&gt; Maybe lowered cost daycare or hey maybe if it can be done free daycare, but some churches do daycare and are able to minister to the children.&#160; It would be nice if more churches did.&#160; I think in bad communities it would have a noticeable impact even by secular measures.&#160; From what I&#039;ve seen, good churches that run a daycare in bad areas often have the best daycare in town and the best products as a result.

Jesse thinks giving the kids computers and treadmills will help.  You know &lt;em&gt;so-called&lt;/em&gt; reverends don&#039;t talk about &lt;strong&gt;JESUS&lt;/strong&gt; being the best option...unless they&#039;re trying to use His name to promote &lt;em&gt;their&lt;/em&gt; agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3 id="comments">fourpointer &#8211; your government forgot to add the treadmills and ellipticals.&nbsp; No wonder the problems are still there. <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  </h3>
<p>I agree just tossing people money would not help.&nbsp; Saints are supposed to give to saints first <em>(our own house, as in those in God&#8217;s house)</em> and to others after that in outreach <strong>ministry</strong>.&nbsp; As in providing for spiritual needs while helping minister to physical needs.&nbsp; That has to all be done with discernment.&nbsp; You don&#8217;t give if you KNOW the gift is going to be abused.&nbsp; You give when you see there is hope for it meeting needs.&nbsp; Personally I usually give to missions when helping the poor, because missions deliver the ministry and hold people to a standard in trying to stop them from simply wanting another hand out.</p>
<p>I mentioned the daycare idea though, because with that you&#8217;re helping the children who are most impressionable.&nbsp; And if it&#8217;s not government sponsored you can tell them about Christ free from government mess.&nbsp; Meaning you can minister to young minds all day long.&nbsp; Honestly, although there are still homeless people, government provides for the basic needs of people who are poor and if churches changed their focus to helping the poor, they could focus on something like child daycare and get some kids rooted in a good foundation.&nbsp; <strong>BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS GET HOLD OF THEM!!!&nbsp;</strong> Maybe lowered cost daycare or hey maybe if it can be done free daycare, but some churches do daycare and are able to minister to the children.&nbsp; It would be nice if more churches did.&nbsp; I think in bad communities it would have a noticeable impact even by secular measures.&nbsp; From what I&#8217;ve seen, good churches that run a daycare in bad areas often have the best daycare in town and the best products as a result.</p>
<p>Jesse thinks giving the kids computers and treadmills will help.  You know <em>so-called</em> reverends don&#8217;t talk about <strong>JESUS</strong> being the best option&#8230;unless they&#8217;re trying to use His name to promote <em>their</em> agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: fourpointer</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/26/jesse_jackson_still_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-6655</link>
		<dc:creator>fourpointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Knoxville, I just paid for the city to totally revamp an entire neighborhood that has been blighted by crime, drugs, etc. Guess what? The houses look nice, even with all the damage they&#039;ve sustained&#160;in the&#160;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;three years&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; since they were built.

Crime&#039;s still there...poverty&#039;s still there...but hey, some really neat window dressing!

And in the projects where a group of us from our church do ministry 3 times a week--giving people stuff ain&#039;t gonna lead them to the Lord. All it will do is &quot;lead people&quot;&#160;to walking up to you with their hand out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Knoxville, I just paid for the city to totally revamp an entire neighborhood that has been blighted by crime, drugs, etc. Guess what? The houses look nice, even with all the damage they&#8217;ve sustained&nbsp;in the&nbsp;<strong><em>three years</em></strong> since they were built.</p>
<p>Crime&#8217;s still there&#8230;poverty&#8217;s still there&#8230;but hey, some really neat window dressing!</p>
<p>And in the projects where a group of us from our church do ministry 3 times a week&#8211;giving people stuff ain&#8217;t gonna lead them to the Lord. All it will do is &quot;lead people&quot;&nbsp;to walking up to you with their hand out.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/26/jesse_jackson_still_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-6653</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think every Christian as some point learns something about Jesse Jackson that causes them to have to admit beyond all doubt that he&#039;s not a Christian.&#160; And he gives so much to help prove the point.&#160; &lt;a href=&quot;http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/11/30/ayotte_v_pp/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I noted in this post I did over at La Shawn&#039;s blog&lt;/a&gt; something that helped me see he&#039;s nothing better than a publican.&#160;&#160; I&#039;m sure if asked point blank, Jesse Jackson&#039;s response about how one can reach God would sound &lt;a href=&quot;../../../07/19/gwb_not_christian/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;just like that of George W. Bush&lt;/a&gt;, if not WORSE.

When was the last time someone even asked him about the basics of the faith?&#160; I mean it&#039;s not like he speaks of them when you see him on TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think every Christian as some point learns something about Jesse Jackson that causes them to have to admit beyond all doubt that he&#8217;s not a Christian.&nbsp; And he gives so much to help prove the point.&nbsp; <a href="http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2005/11/30/ayotte_v_pp/" rel="nofollow">I noted in this post I did over at La Shawn&#8217;s blog</a> something that helped me see he&#8217;s nothing better than a publican.&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#8217;m sure if asked point blank, Jesse Jackson&#8217;s response about how one can reach God would sound <a href="../../../07/19/gwb_not_christian/" rel="nofollow">just like that of George W. Bush</a>, if not WORSE.</p>
<p>When was the last time someone even asked him about the basics of the faith?&nbsp; I mean it&#8217;s not like he speaks of them when you see him on TV.</p>
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		<title>By: art123</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/26/jesse_jackson_still_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-6651</link>
		<dc:creator>art123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and they wonder why those stinking Christian overheads are watching them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and they wonder why those stinking Christian overheads are watching them.</p>
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		<title>By: art123</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/26/jesse_jackson_still_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-6650</link>
		<dc:creator>art123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other words, he does things to be seen of men, like Jesus said about the Pharisees. Is this correct? To add, those greedy, stingy, selfish churches ain&#039;t helping nobody. Just pay your tithes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, he does things to be seen of men, like Jesus said about the Pharisees. Is this correct? To add, those greedy, stingy, selfish churches ain&#8217;t helping nobody. Just pay your tithes.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/26/jesse_jackson_still_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-6649</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is Jesse Jackson trying to accommodate and make them comfortable in their present state of hand outs and milking of the system?&lt;/blockquote&gt;  Because he &lt;strong&gt;needs&lt;/strong&gt; them to remain in that state so HE can play the role of their &quot;leader&quot;.&#160; Jesse KNOWS no area in America is going to give up all of that.&#160; Jesse sets the insane goal, because he knows it will never be met and it gives him and those with him reasons to continue crying.

&lt;strong&gt;Nobody OWES the folks in public housing anything&lt;/strong&gt;, but even with them being given things by government, Jesse STILL makes sure he MAKES something MORE to complain about.&#160; Some of the people getting the hand outs complain too and draw folks of his ilk to their cause.&#160; The cities are trying to get people to do for themselves and there will ALWAYS be those who are resistant to change, because they like things as they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why is Jesse Jackson trying to accommodate and make them comfortable in their present state of hand outs and milking of the system?</p></blockquote>
<p>  Because he <strong>needs</strong> them to remain in that state so HE can play the role of their &quot;leader&quot;.&nbsp; Jesse KNOWS no area in America is going to give up all of that.&nbsp; Jesse sets the insane goal, because he knows it will never be met and it gives him and those with him reasons to continue crying.</p>
<p><strong>Nobody OWES the folks in public housing anything</strong>, but even with them being given things by government, Jesse STILL makes sure he MAKES something MORE to complain about.&nbsp; Some of the people getting the hand outs complain too and draw folks of his ilk to their cause.&nbsp; The cities are trying to get people to do for themselves and there will ALWAYS be those who are resistant to change, because they like things as they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Lennie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Treadmills? My husband and I were looking at treamills recently in Sears. Due to financial priorities, we put that purchase on hold until other bills are knocked off first.

I certainly wish someone would just &quot;give&quot; me a treadmill.&#160; And women who have children, I bet they wish someone would just &quot;give&quot; them free babysitting.

At the risk of sounding like a heartless cad, I will just ask the question:&#160; WHY and HOW do able bodied, sane people get on welfare and &quot;public housing&quot;?&#160; What trick have they used that gives them the right to live almost for free while the rest of us have to work and be responsible?

They want to live in &quot;better neighborhoods&quot; but don&#039;t want to finish school, get a GED and go through either college or trade school to be in a better position to get a decent job so they can afford &quot;better neighborhoods&quot;.

Why is Jesse Jackson trying to accommodate and make them comfortable in their present state of hand outs and milking of the system?

The only people who should be on welfare are those who are mentally or physically handicapped and unable to work, those who are feeble or elderly, and others in that category.

Regular folks who are just lazy or too sorry to get off their butt and get an education should not receive welfare beyond 2 - 3 years and then a permanent cut off is necessary.

What right do they have to lay up day in hedonism while I have to go out to work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Treadmills? My husband and I were looking at treamills recently in Sears. Due to financial priorities, we put that purchase on hold until other bills are knocked off first.</p>
<p>I certainly wish someone would just &quot;give&quot; me a treadmill.&nbsp; And women who have children, I bet they wish someone would just &quot;give&quot; them free babysitting.</p>
<p>At the risk of sounding like a heartless cad, I will just ask the question:&nbsp; WHY and HOW do able bodied, sane people get on welfare and &quot;public housing&quot;?&nbsp; What trick have they used that gives them the right to live almost for free while the rest of us have to work and be responsible?</p>
<p>They want to live in &quot;better neighborhoods&quot; but don&#8217;t want to finish school, get a GED and go through either college or trade school to be in a better position to get a decent job so they can afford &quot;better neighborhoods&quot;.</p>
<p>Why is Jesse Jackson trying to accommodate and make them comfortable in their present state of hand outs and milking of the system?</p>
<p>The only people who should be on welfare are those who are mentally or physically handicapped and unable to work, those who are feeble or elderly, and others in that category.</p>
<p>Regular folks who are just lazy or too sorry to get off their butt and get an education should not receive welfare beyond 2 &#8211; 3 years and then a permanent cut off is necessary.</p>
<p>What right do they have to lay up day in hedonism while I have to go out to work?</p>
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