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	<title>Comments on: Bob Jones III Promotes the Cult of the Golden Elephant (and Joseph Smith Jr.)!  Endorses Mitt Romney.</title>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/17/bob_jones_3_4_mitt_romney/comment-page-1/#comment-6533</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KyleAndrews - We&#039;ve already noted what we are doing.  I don&#039;t see &lt;em&gt;a Clinton/Obama ticket VS a Giuliani/Romney ticket&lt;/em&gt;.  I see a ticket with many more options.  Because I don&#039;t base my view of the field on popular opinion.  Opinions that in many cases are not rooted in godliness.  Entertainment Tonight is the #1 news show in America.  Need I say more?

With either ticket you named you know both will push things towards MORE ungodliness.  My name won&#039;t be a co-signer to either of their deeds.  Their only real difference is that one might let you keep a little more of your own money than the other.  That&#039;s not something I see as &quot;good&quot; when &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/12/rudy_on_abortion/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rudy Wants You and Me to Foot the Bill for People to Murder Their Babies.&lt;/a&gt;  And he&#039;s a Catholic who orthodox Catholics don&#039;t even respect as a good one of their own.  Many of his own &quot;priests&quot; would not even serve him if he entered their buildings.  And I don&#039;t like the influence &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=JtywK9HJFpM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rome already has in this nation and only desires to increase via border invasion!&lt;/a&gt;  That is an invasion that Rudy is all for helping.  See: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/11/14/giuliani_for_illegals/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Rudolph W. Giuliani Should Never Become President of the United States. He’s a Friend of Illegal Aliens.&lt;/a&gt;

Why do you think &lt;strike&gt;Pawn&lt;/strike&gt; Sean Hannity (Catholic) while denying it was saying more supportive words for Arnold Schwarzenegger (Catholic) than Tom McClintock during the CA recall election involving Gray Davis?

Now &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/22/bush_supports_romney/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Team Bush backs Romney&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;strike&gt;Pawn&lt;/strike&gt; Sean Hannity usually backs them and he&#039;s got Rudy (Catholic).

Brother, I&#039;m not a fan of suffering, but I&#039;m not afraid of it either.  I won&#039;t co-sign, I&#039;ll vote for someone with no chance before them.  &lt;strong&gt;Both Rudy and Mitt not only have issues theologically that would advance cults, they are both flip-floppers on policy, so you can&#039;t even trust them if you removed all theological considerations.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KyleAndrews &#8211; We&#8217;ve already noted what we are doing.  I don&#8217;t see <em>a Clinton/Obama ticket VS a Giuliani/Romney ticket</em>.  I see a ticket with many more options.  Because I don&#8217;t base my view of the field on popular opinion.  Opinions that in many cases are not rooted in godliness.  Entertainment Tonight is the #1 news show in America.  Need I say more?</p>
<p>With either ticket you named you know both will push things towards MORE ungodliness.  My name won&#8217;t be a co-signer to either of their deeds.  Their only real difference is that one might let you keep a little more of your own money than the other.  That&#8217;s not something I see as &#8220;good&#8221; when <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/12/rudy_on_abortion/" rel="nofollow">Rudy Wants You and Me to Foot the Bill for People to Murder Their Babies.</a>  And he&#8217;s a Catholic who orthodox Catholics don&#8217;t even respect as a good one of their own.  Many of his own &#8220;priests&#8221; would not even serve him if he entered their buildings.  And I don&#8217;t like the influence <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=JtywK9HJFpM" rel="nofollow">Rome already has in this nation and only desires to increase via border invasion!</a>  That is an invasion that Rudy is all for helping.  See: <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/11/14/giuliani_for_illegals/" rel="nofollow">Why Rudolph W. Giuliani Should Never Become President of the United States. He’s a Friend of Illegal Aliens.</a></p>
<p>Why do you think <strike>Pawn</strike> Sean Hannity (Catholic) while denying it was saying more supportive words for Arnold Schwarzenegger (Catholic) than Tom McClintock during the CA recall election involving Gray Davis?</p>
<p>Now <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/22/bush_supports_romney/" rel="nofollow">Team Bush backs Romney</a>, <strike>Pawn</strike> Sean Hannity usually backs them and he&#8217;s got Rudy (Catholic).</p>
<p>Brother, I&#8217;m not a fan of suffering, but I&#8217;m not afraid of it either.  I won&#8217;t co-sign, I&#8217;ll vote for someone with no chance before them.  <strong>Both Rudy and Mitt not only have issues theologically that would advance cults, they are both flip-floppers on policy, so you can&#8217;t even trust them if you removed all theological considerations.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: KyleAndrews</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/17/bob_jones_3_4_mitt_romney/comment-page-1/#comment-6532</link>
		<dc:creator>KyleAndrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IC, GXG,

Again I ask what shall we do?  I personally shredded my Republican Voter Registration card a while back.  I too am a Christian Conservative not a Bootlicking Republican Like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh of whom both are shameful examples of Corporate Republicans.  However, should we vote our conscience and vote for a true conservative knowing full well that they will lose?  I can&#039;t lie.  When November of 08 comes around I will have to do a great deal of contemplation.  Right now it looks like it is going to be a Clinton/Obama ticket VS a Giuliani/Romney ticket.  One gives you the communist manifesto the other gives you more liberal Republican Neocons.  What are we to do.


Kyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IC, GXG,</p>
<p>Again I ask what shall we do?  I personally shredded my Republican Voter Registration card a while back.  I too am a Christian Conservative not a Bootlicking Republican Like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh of whom both are shameful examples of Corporate Republicans.  However, should we vote our conscience and vote for a true conservative knowing full well that they will lose?  I can&#8217;t lie.  When November of 08 comes around I will have to do a great deal of contemplation.  Right now it looks like it is going to be a Clinton/Obama ticket VS a Giuliani/Romney ticket.  One gives you the communist manifesto the other gives you more liberal Republican Neocons.  What are we to do.</p>
<p>Kyle</p>
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		<title>By: Gxg--G2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gxg--G2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Literally &quot;Independent&quot;....love your style, Brah (lol).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Literally &#8220;Independent&#8221;&#8230;.love your style, Brah (lol).</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/17/bob_jones_3_4_mitt_romney/comment-page-1/#comment-6524</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand with no political party and encourage people to leave them :) .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand with no political party and encourage people to leave them <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
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		<title>By: Gxg--G2</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/17/bob_jones_3_4_mitt_romney/comment-page-1/#comment-6522</link>
		<dc:creator>Gxg--G2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, Brah.......

There&#039;s more loyalty nowadays to our political parties than there is to Christ.....

And of course, that&#039;s dangerous seeing that parties are LIABLE to change. 

As Randy Alcorn once wisely said, &quot;God doesn&#039;t care about conservative and liberal, he cares about what is true and right and just and compassionate and biblical. (He does therefore care about political party beliefs, platforms, moral positions and policies. Before standing behind any party we&#039;d better be sure these harmonize with his Word. That&#039;s part of being a Christian first.&quot;

http://www.epm.org/articles/conservx.html


If I&#039;m more loyal to my party than God&#039;s Word first &amp; begin to believe that the PARTY ITSELF represents what the Heart of God is, then I bind myself to follow that party wherever it goes.....even if it&#039;s a DANGEROUS PATH. 

Moreover, I may set myself up for the danger of RATIONALIZING away the dangers by believing that any good the party has done may be a sign that the party can be redeemed &amp; therefore I shouldn&#039;t abandon ship. That&#039;s why most people have stayed with the Republican party when many should&#039;ve left a LONG TIME AGO.....&amp; the same goes for other labels as well, like &quot;Liberal&quot; for example.


They have done much for our nation in the past (paticuraly in the Civil Rights Movement), but many will look over any of the wrongs done by the party becayse of that.....willingly going up to slaughter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, Brah&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more loyalty nowadays to our political parties than there is to Christ&#8230;..</p>
<p>And of course, that&#8217;s dangerous seeing that parties are LIABLE to change. </p>
<p>As Randy Alcorn once wisely said, &#8220;God doesn&#8217;t care about conservative and liberal, he cares about what is true and right and just and compassionate and biblical. (He does therefore care about political party beliefs, platforms, moral positions and policies. Before standing behind any party we&#8217;d better be sure these harmonize with his Word. That&#8217;s part of being a Christian first.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.epm.org/articles/conservx.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.epm.org/articles/conservx.html</a></p>
<p>If I&#8217;m more loyal to my party than God&#8217;s Word first &amp; begin to believe that the PARTY ITSELF represents what the Heart of God is, then I bind myself to follow that party wherever it goes&#8230;..even if it&#8217;s a DANGEROUS PATH. </p>
<p>Moreover, I may set myself up for the danger of RATIONALIZING away the dangers by believing that any good the party has done may be a sign that the party can be redeemed &amp; therefore I shouldn&#8217;t abandon ship. That&#8217;s why most people have stayed with the Republican party when many should&#8217;ve left a LONG TIME AGO&#8230;..&amp; the same goes for other labels as well, like &#8220;Liberal&#8221; for example.</p>
<p>They have done much for our nation in the past (paticuraly in the Civil Rights Movement), but many will look over any of the wrongs done by the party becayse of that&#8230;..willingly going up to slaughter.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/17/bob_jones_3_4_mitt_romney/comment-page-1/#comment-6519</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could say what the Democrat loyalists are worshiping, but if you know what I might call it given my title for the GOP :lol:  :oops:  :D .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could say what the Democrat loyalists are worshiping, but if you know what I might call it given my title for the GOP <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif' alt=':oops:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/17/bob_jones_3_4_mitt_romney/comment-page-1/#comment-6518</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.

Since some put them above the cause of Christ, for them I call it the &lt;b&gt;Cult of the Golden Elephant&lt;/b&gt;.  That is what they&#039;ve turned it into.  Not that every person who claims that party is a cultist, but some are obviously making the GOP first in their lives.  GOP does not stand for God&#039;s Own Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.</p>
<p>Since some put them above the cause of Christ, for them I call it the <b>Cult of the Golden Elephant</b>.  That is what they&#8217;ve turned it into.  Not that every person who claims that party is a cultist, but some are obviously making the GOP first in their lives.  GOP does not stand for God&#8217;s Own Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Gxg--G2</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/17/bob_jones_3_4_mitt_romney/comment-page-1/#comment-6517</link>
		<dc:creator>Gxg--G2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &quot;GOP&quot; or &quot;GOLDEN ELEPHANT&quot;, you&#039;re meaning the Republican Party, correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;GOP&#8221; or &#8220;GOLDEN ELEPHANT&#8221;, you&#8217;re meaning the Republican Party, correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Gxg--G2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gxg--G2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Bad, Brah. Wasn&#039;t even planning on going into anything regarding G.Craig Lewis, though the point with enablers/ACTS 16 is something I think ties into THE ISSUE with what&#039;s happening in Mormonism. I&#039;f venture further to say that it may be inaccurate to say that the issue with Mormons infiltrating Christianity is something true of ALL MORMONS, as there are many Mormons who know Christianinty &amp; Mormonism are not the same &amp; make no effort in trying to blend the two together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Bad, Brah. Wasn&#8217;t even planning on going into anything regarding G.Craig Lewis, though the point with enablers/ACTS 16 is something I think ties into THE ISSUE with what&#8217;s happening in Mormonism. I&#8217;f venture further to say that it may be inaccurate to say that the issue with Mormons infiltrating Christianity is something true of ALL MORMONS, as there are many Mormons who know Christianinty &amp; Mormonism are not the same &amp; make no effort in trying to blend the two together.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/17/bob_jones_3_4_mitt_romney/comment-page-1/#comment-6515</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gxg--G2 - If you have more, let it be related to the issue of what Mormons are up to and any scripture you care to provide in that regard.  Not every varied thing going on that comes to your mind.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2007/06/13/to-pimp-or-not-to-pimp-only-craige-can-say-for-sure&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You already know how some of us feel about the other stuff you&#039;re going into.&lt;/a&gt;

Let&#039;s keep this on the topic of the Mormons and the Golden Elephant cult many have turned the GOP into within their own hearts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gxg&#8211;G2 &#8211; If you have more, let it be related to the issue of what Mormons are up to and any scripture you care to provide in that regard.  Not every varied thing going on that comes to your mind.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2007/06/13/to-pimp-or-not-to-pimp-only-craige-can-say-for-sure" rel="nofollow">You already know how some of us feel about the other stuff you&#8217;re going into.</a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep this on the topic of the Mormons and the Golden Elephant cult many have turned the GOP into within their own hearts.</p>
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