Matthew 13:22 (New American Standard Bible)

22 “And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.

Jesus is love and he could be found both in the temple and with the “multicultural” as you call them.

Where do I use the term “multicultural”? Please quote the statement back to me where I have.

…I found that they have in fact given a lot back to their community including the new gym they have opened to the public and the local youth

And a public gym spreads the gospel how? I’m going to check in my Bible and see if the Apostles ever planted any gymnasiums . $5 million and the best that can be shown for it is a gymnasium? How about using $5 million to help people with NEEDS. How many saints are in need of food, shelter and medical care today? How did we go from Jesus and His disciples giving to the poor and clothing the naked, to gymnasiums? I think the gymnasium only bolsters my position that they’re the wrong people to give to. Unless you feel a gymnasium is better than feeding, clothing and helping the poor with medical needs. (A gymnasium, I’m just shocked you’d even come here with that!)

Search the scriptures, false teachers were always given harsh words. For your sake, I’ve reviewed my statements above and see nothing wrong with them. I find the tone to be appropriate for the false teaching displayed by vipers who live to fill their bellies off the backs of the saints.

If you think I relfect the Pharisees or Saducees, you’ve not well studied them. The Pharisees lived for money and wanted to maintain a system that kept their leaders rich. The Saducees were so out in left field they didn’t even beleive in a ressurection. Seriously, take some time to study the Pharisees and Saducees, because you really don’t understand who they were/are.

…that this is no excuse for some of the music coming from our old traditional churches. What we send to the Lord should not be dry and laborious.

A shame you don’t understand the love expressed in those songs you call “dry”. If you can’t enjoy a song like The Old Rugged Cross being sung in an “old traditional” church, you just don’t well appreciate the inner truth of such songs. You seem to prefer perhaps something that entertains YOU. If it entertains YOU and excites YOU, than it is pleasing to God, is that how it works? You might need to rethink why you get up on Sunday morning! I don’t have a problem with old or new songs, so long as they are to praise the Lord rather than my own emotions!

Those false apostles are the Pharisees pushing legalistic bondage of 10%+, they are the thorns and may the Lord help you to see it!

Jesus is love and he could be found both in the temple and with the “multicultural” as you call them. When I research this RWOC, they may have raised $5,000,000 but I found that they have in fact given a lot back to their community including the new gym they have opened to the public and the local youth. The only thing I see coming from your ministry is hatred, insults, thorns, and thistles. The Bible says you know a person by their fruit. The seeds that you are growing will not produce a good return I’m afraid. I am going to pray for you because if Jesus gave you a ministry, this can not be the way He wants you to deliver it. How do I know?…because it does not reflect Jesus or any of His followers. It reflects the Pharisees and Saducees.

What you said about music is worth researching. There are a lot of false prophets out there who have learned the ways of the world, appealing to senses and flesh and toying with the minds of the weak. I do know, however, that this is no excuse for some of the music coming from our old traditional churches. What we send to the Lord should not be dry and laborious. We should give our very best. Music can be a transmitter of the anointing and not the anointing itself. Music is used as one of the tools of worship.

I don’t know what to tell you about Obama. I’m watching and praying. We have to be wary about anyone who uses Jesus concepts but not His name. But as for you you, if you use His name, you should use His charachter. The only people He discouraged were those who had no intentions of loving or helping anyone else but instead constantly kept people in a legalsitic bondage of law, criticism, and judgement. That, my friend, is one of many charachteristics of the antichrist. I love you and be blessed.

criticizing ministries simply because they are bigger than youurs and you are jealous.

Well we know right off that you have no discernment. It’s impossible for a man such as myself, who does not claim to be leading a church group to be jealous. Because I don’t have a desire for a big building. I’m not a “pastor” and I have not claimed a title like “evangelist”. I’m a man saved by grace, who warns saints about people such as the Carpenter’s, Obama and YOU.

First off hot shot can I call you hot shot, I will anyway first off you try to twist scripture to support your own views while ignoring important scriptures suchas oh I dont know lets look at what you are doing compared to scripture.

Well deluded defender of false doctrine, I’ll call you that given it fits.

I find what I’m doing is very much supported by scripture, (Ephesians 5:11) it’s called contending for the faith, Jude 1, against preachers of money, 2 Peter 2. The real faith, not the fraudulent front you put up!

1. Judging Now I remember someone in the bible who could it be OH YEAH JESUS said “Judge not lest ye be judged. I just cant find the scripture where Jesus said Peter go tear down every ministry that is not like yours or in your case bigger. I do however find where the disciples came and said Lord there is one who preaches but is not with us and his response was come on you know this one… If he is not against us he is with us.

False evangelist Jeff, you are a false teaching HYPOCRITE! You claim it’s wrong for me to “judge”, yet you’ve come here casting judgement upon me YOURSELF. I’ll keep on doing what I’m doing. Because I read far enough in my bible, to make it to the part where God through Christ by way of the Holy Spirit, has Paul tells saints in Corinth to judge those inside and avoid practitioners of covetousness, 1 Corinthians 5:9-13. And where Timothy is instructed to flee people promoting godliness as a means for gain, 1 Timothy 6. If you can find in your Bible where the man the disciples saw was preaching prosperity doctrine I’ll start teaching it too! But it’s a false doctrine and somebody, yea JESUS spoke of it as being in THORNS, Matthew 13.

2. Touching Gods annointed…

You’re pathetically deluded. But read this and perhaps the Lord will through the Holy Spirit help you come to knowledge of the truth: “Touch Not My Anointed”..The command of God or the cries of the misled??

Again that lack of discernment on your part is showing. My response to you, you false teaching practitioner of strong delusion, is that I’m not trying to kill anybody. And if you see me pick up a stone and toss it at someone call the police! You mock in saying:

…we dont fit your traditional views from grandmas day.

Grandma is with the Lord and you better stop and read 1 Timothy 6 because you’re representing something other than Christ with what you’re promoting, in your defense of prosperity pimps.

3. Sowing hate and discord among the brethren. Now I know there is something in the bible about this one sure is in Proverbs ch. 6 to be exact and what do you know God hates this hmm.

Proverbs 6:16-21 (New American Standard Bible)

16 There are six things which the LORD hates,
Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
And hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that run rapidly to evil,
19 A false witness who utters lies,
And one who spreads strife among brothers.
20 My son, observe the commandment of your father
And do not forsake the teaching of your mother;
21 Bind them continually on your heart;
Tie them around your neck.

1) Haughty eyes – You better take a look at YOU and others promoting prosperity doctrine and seeking bigger buildings!
2) Lying tongue – You and the Carpenter’s LIE about the very Word of God and promote false doctrines of MONEY.
3) Hands that shed innocent blood – The Carpenter’s promote Obama, who is all for allowed the shedding of innocent blood in the womb to REMAIN LEGAL. And you come here in defense of them.
4) A heart that devises wicked plans – Given points 1-3 above point 4 is a given.
5) Feet that run rapidly to evil – And how swiftly those of your ilk run to promote your false teachings.
6) A false witness who utters lies – That would be you, the Carpenter’s and even Obama who all bear false witness in your mangling of the Word of God.
7) And one who spreads strife among brothers. – You attempt to claim it’s me, but we see you are the one who has come to continue promoting strife. In the same error Paul told Timothy about in the scripture I’ve already noted for you above, 1 Timothy 6. Always constant friction with you who promote doctrines of money gain.

And notice that Proverb (Proverbs 6:20) does not say to mock grandma, but to observe the teachers of our father and mother. Certainly that does not mean someone who truly fears God should mock the teachings of their father’s mother or mother’s mother.

…a man of God who has won more to Christ in a week than you have probably in your life.

You mean making them twice sons of hell with false doctrine than before they met him, after he traveled land and sea just to make one proselyte, Matthew 23. You devourers of widow’s homes and binders of legalism, claiming people must pay 10%, telling them they must give to a $5 million building and seek 7 fold from Satan, you’re on a highway to hell and don’t even know it.

Well tdktdw, like I told you before:

I’m here to help you out of it if you’re willing to learn.

But you’re too busy enjoying being pimped.

The “anointing” of the Holy Spirit is not temporal. The anointing granted a Christain does not come and then leave as under the old covenant. Tdktdw, let me tell you about the anointing I have, it never leaves, because it is inside of me, sealing me in Christ and guides me to truth, 1 John 2:27 and Ephesians 1:13-14.

When you attempted to cite Psalm 103:9, I HOPE you were not trying to claim that is evidence anointing can leave a Christian.

1 – From scripture, what are the requirements for someone to be viewed as an “apostle”? What criteria did the apostles in scripture use themselves?

2 – When did the apostles EVER use the word “tithe”?

I know you read the post above, but you’d do well to click the links in the post above and learn more before you speak.

Regarding Matthew 4:17, Jesus was speaking of Himself, you cannot make a Kingdom that is the Lord’s to bring Himself, read Luke 17:20-37.

Regarding Matthew 7:1-5, I see this clearly, because I’ve been where you are now and the Lord showed me the truth. Such as false claims of apostelship, false tithes and false teaching on the Kingdom of the Lord and its coming. I’m here to help you out of it if you’re willing to learn.

The kingdom is the Lord’s and the coming inheritance of those who love Him, Matthew 25:31-46. This is not something you or Obama can create.

How many times have the so-called apostles Carpenter spoken in “tongues” to an unbeliever in their native language?

1 Corinthians 14:20-25, which was the fulfillment of Isaiah 28:11-12. The “this people” receiving the sign in tongues were the unbelieving Jews. What you are seeing done in your assembly is nothing but mere babble. True tongues would involve speaking to an unbeliever in their native language. But the Carpenters rely on the lack of education and training in their assembly to swindle you and lock you to false teaching, like paying 10%, when nobody in scripture EVER paid 10% of wages from labor. Read the references I’ve provided you about tithing in the post above and learn something. You’re being taken for a fool’s ride.