So I noticed this article tonight at the top of Drudge with the headline “HOLY OBAMA: ‘WE CAN CREATE KINGDOM ON EARTH’”.
Here’s part of the actual article talking about Obama attending a show service at the Redemption World Outreach Center in Greenville, SC today. (So-called “apostles” Ron and Hope Carpenter founded and lead this club church assembly.)
Obama: GOP doesn’t own faith and values
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OK, so Obama who sits under a heretic and is part of a denomination in the United Church of Christ, that OKs homosexual sin and so naturally he lauds false teachers like T.D. Jakes who goes soft on the sin of homosexuality and Rick Warren who rarely mentions that sin even exists.
The show featured all you would expect in the way of flesh pleasing and ear tingling entertainment, with a rock band and hip-hop dancers.
Then Obama claims the false teachers’ dream can be realized through him, a “Kingdom” right here on earth. The only “Kingdom” that scripture notes is coming before the return of the Lord Jesus Christ is the kingdom of the anti-Christ!
2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 (New King James Version)
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NOTICE THAT SCRIPTURE DOES NOT AFFIRM THE MESS COMING OUT OF SOME PASTORS MOUTHS AND NOW EVEN POLITICIANS MOUTHS ABOUT SOME GREAT REVIVAL COMING OR A CHRISTIAN STYLED KINGDOM PRIOR TO CHRIST’S RETURN. SCRIPTURE NOTES JUST THE OPPOSITE!
And if you study a little about Free Masonry’s influence on America, you might find that this nation is not as rooted in Christianity as you might think! (Yea, I had to learn that one too, because I used to not know better.)
Notice, Obama said nothing about the Lord Jesus Christ being the only means for salvation and no mention of supporting pastors who spread that message. If you pass out food and medicine, Obama gives you high marks, but if you spread the message of Jesus as the ONLY means for salvation and seek for people to turn from sin like homosexuality when accepting Jesus Christ as Lord along with the charity, Obama won’t mention your name. The bottom line, Obama is a secular humanist. Ask Obama about Christ being the only means to salvation and you might get a worse answer than even Bush gave.
Now about these false apostles named Ron and Hope Carpenter. I was really surprised, when I was researching these 2 and nobody seems to have noted their being false yet. Oh well, somebody had to say it, THEY ARE FALSE APOSTLES and I’d advise all 4,000 people in that assembly to run from Ron and Hope Carpenter. I offer information here as to why these 2 and others trying to carry the title “apostle” are false.
On their web site they have this slogan about their assembly:
Can’t be Explained. Only Experienced!
Because they are playing on the emotional high of getting people jumping, playing lots of music and they call this anooointing. You can get much of the same “high” at an all out Rock or Hip Hop concert. How come in scripture the Holy Spirit fell on people who were praying or when the apostles were ministering to new converts, preaching the Word, but today these pulpit pimps act like you need a booming sound system for anointing? Here’s some advice folks. If you’re saved you’re already anointed via the Holy Spirit. Stop chasing these people around, because they are simply using music against you.
Like true pimps, they allow people to pay so-called tithes and even pay a so-called “Resurrection Seed” to them via the Internet. Learn the truth about so-called tithing here.
Check out audio footage below of pimp Ron Carpenter talking about how he got his flock to pay off $5 million for a building fast.
Notice that Ron is declaring they will take “7 fold” back from Satan. Where do the apostles and Jesus Christ note this need to “take” from Satan? I know the 70 knocked Satan out of the sky, but even they did not bother trying to pick his pockets! The Lord gives as He wills, we don’t go out looking for Satan to pick his pockets. God says, stop being greedy and be content with the basics on earth 1 Timothy 6:8 and seek rewards in Heaven instead, Luke 12:22-34. Ron Carpenter is also babbling on the clip. OK, we all know that is no language at all. Ron is faking and the whole thing just sounds like one big mess.
So we have Obama and some pimps rolling together. Ah American politics. Nothing like offering favoritism in a church assembly to the big name and flushing James 2 down the toilet!
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October 8th, 2007 at 9:09 am
“I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”
Thus saith the spirit of the antichrist.
October 8th, 2007 at 9:13 am
Oh another thing, it seems these days all you have to do to become an “apostle” is get thousands of people to come to your church and build big multimillion dollar buildings. to attract the rich and of course politicians to increase the profile of your church. THEN you are duly an apostle. LOL
October 8th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Must I say that the church is a combination of politics and organized crime. The reason I’ve mentioned organized crime is because when you watch the movie “The Godfather”, it gives you more insight on how the church, especially the Catholic church is so corrupt and they’re protected under the First Amendment.
October 11th, 2007 at 10:33 pm
Spoken like a true critic- someone who knows all about the church but has never attended long enough or often enough to make an intelligent and accurate conclusion!
First of all regarding the “falseness” of my apostles- yes, I say apostles, here a few truths you missed: It has NEVER been taught either out of the mouths of Ron or Hope Carpenter, nor ever IMPLIED that our salvation lies anywhere except in Jesus Christ. That is a fact. Second of all, we do experience quiet time during the service when we pray - without music, and it is often reineated that the Anointing is not in the music, but in our Spirit. It is also taught that we are Anointed by the Holy Ghost, so please do not represent that it is taught there that the Anointing is in the music.
The church is growing. Yes, some do come for the music and the shouting, but let’s be real- You will find some of them at EVERY church, esp Pentacostal churches! But the same is not true for all. My holiness is dependent upon and ONLY upon my relationship with God and faithfulness to his Word. Don’t get it twisted. I don’t know how often you’ve attended RWOC and if you paid any attention while there. I can’t imagine that you did considering the amount of criticism you’ve managed to spew. With that much rejection in your heart, how can you receive anything from God?
Second of all, regarding the “kingdom” that is referred to, look in the Word. The Kingdom of God is at hand. That is the kingdom Apostles Ron and Hope refer to. The Kingdom on earth is the Kingdom that will be when Christ returns. This is what we are preparing for. Not some kingdom of Satan that you have twisted with your own thinking and opinion. I don’t know about you, but I plan to be with Christ when he returns!
Regarding Obama, Let him work out his own salvation with fear and trembling. Neither you nor me nor Apostles Ron and Hope have to give account to God for him on the day of judgment. It is my job to focus on my life and you to focus on you to be sure you can give a good account or be sent into “outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
You like scripture, so here’s a Word for you. Enjoy.
Malachi 3:8-12; Matthew 4:17; Matt 6: 9-13; Matt 7: 1-5; Prov 4: 5-7; I Corinthians 12-13 (all verses). When you feel there is trouble in the body of Christ, Pray for the body, don’t criticize it. The same one you step on today will be the same one that prays you out tomorrow.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
tdktdw - 2 questions for you to start,
1 - From scripture, what are the requirements for someone to be viewed as an “apostle”? What criteria did the apostles in scripture use themselves?
2 - When did the apostles EVER use the word “tithe”?
I know you read the post above, but you’d do well to click the links in the post above and learn more before you speak.
Regarding Matthew 4:17, Jesus was speaking of Himself, you cannot make a Kingdom that is the Lord’s to bring Himself, read Luke 17:20-37.
Regarding Matthew 7:1-5, I see this clearly, because I’ve been where you are now and the Lord showed me the truth. Such as false claims of apostelship, false tithes and false teaching on the Kingdom of the Lord and its coming. I’m here to help you out of it if you’re willing to learn.
The kingdom is the Lord’s and the coming inheritance of those who love Him, Matthew 25:31-46. This is not something you or Obama can create.
How many times have the so-called apostles Carpenter spoken in “tongues” to an unbeliever in their native language?
1 Corinthians 14:20-25, which was the fulfillment of Isaiah 28:11-12. The “this people” receiving the sign in tongues were the unbelieving Jews. What you are seeing done in your assembly is nothing but mere babble. True tongues would involve speaking to an unbeliever in their native language. But the Carpenters rely on the lack of education and training in their assembly to swindle you and lock you to false teaching, like paying 10%, when nobody in scripture EVER paid 10% of wages from labor. Read the references I’ve provided you about tithing in the post above and learn something. You’re being taken for a fool’s ride.