Comments on: Black Men Supporting Satan and Don’t Even Know it. http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/ The Independent Conservative saying what needs to be said! Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:35:55 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: SDM http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/comment-page-1/#comment-6332 SDM Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:54:34 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/#comment-6332 I.C. Thank you, You have said it all;there is nothing left for me to add.art123, I was just being sarcastic about the "dodging" comment. I.C. Thank you, You have said it all;there is nothing left for me to add.art123, I was just being sarcastic about the “dodging” comment.

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/comment-page-1/#comment-6329 IndependentConservative Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:48:31 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/#comment-6329 I don't know. Maybe SDM does. No matter the means, a pastor that refuses a court date is not subjecting himself to the <em>"ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake"</em>. <b>1 Peter 2:13-17 (New King James Version)</b> <blockquote> 13) Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake, whether to the king as supreme, 14) or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good. 15) For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men— 16) as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God. 17) Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king. </blockquote> <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/15/creflo_rappers/" rel="nofollow">Creflo</a> is a <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/12/28/cnn_on_church_pimps/" rel="nofollow">false</a> <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/11/16/creflo_dollar/" rel="nofollow">teacher</a>, I don't consider him as one of the saints, so I don't expect him to consider the words noted above. He does what best serves <em><b>his</b> "destiny"</em>. I don’t know. Maybe SDM does. No matter the means, a pastor that refuses a court date is not subjecting himself to the “ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake”.

1 Peter 2:13-17 (New King James Version)

13) Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake, whether to the king as supreme,

14) or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.

15) For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men—

16) as free, yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, but as bondservants of God.

17) Honor all people. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king.

Creflo is a false teacher, I don’t consider him as one of the saints, so I don’t expect him to consider the words noted above. He does what best serves his “destiny”.

]]> By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/comment-page-1/#comment-6328 art123 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:04:51 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/#comment-6328 To IC: Can a so-called man of the cloth dodge a court appearance as stated in the Holyfield divorce case or did he exercise his first amendment rights to get away with it? To IC:
Can a so-called man of the cloth dodge a court appearance as stated in the Holyfield divorce case or did he exercise his first amendment rights to get away with it?

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/comment-page-1/#comment-6322 IndependentConservative Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:32:28 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/#comment-6322 <em>looking for truth</em> things are worse, much worse than you know. You're sitting in the middle of one of the biggest hubs of false doctrine in America. That is the truth. looking for truth things are worse, much worse than you know.

You’re sitting in the middle of one of the biggest hubs of false doctrine in America. That is the truth.

]]> By: looking for truth http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/comment-page-1/#comment-6320 looking for truth Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:00:56 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/#comment-6320 Gee, I don't follow Eddie Long or Creflo even though I live in Atlanta. Can it really be this bad? The only thing I know is that I get turned off when I see them on tv; so I just don't watch them. Gee, I don’t follow Eddie Long or Creflo even though I live in Atlanta. Can it really be this bad? The only thing I know is that I get turned off when I see them on tv; so I just don’t watch them.

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/comment-page-1/#comment-6317 IndependentConservative Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:43:53 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/#comment-6317 <blockquote>Lisa Lopes was involved with too much worldly stuff that is the main reason she could not find peace.Jesus Christ brings peace of mind;I hate she never found him.That’s really sad!</blockquote> That says it all right there. Some people recite a chant in front of Eddie Long <em>(I don't know if she did)</em> and assume their soul is set. <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:21;&version=50;" rel="nofollow">Matthew 7:21</a> shows a simple chant does not cut it. Those who are the Lord's are sincere in love of the Lord as their ONLY means for Salvation and Peace, by faith and following Him, because they hear His call and He changes them. Regarding Creflo and Evander, yea, I can't recall what he gave him off hand, but I think he did give him something, in addition I think he gave Creflo lots of money and we know he wrote a big check to Benny Hinn too. For the supposed <em>healing</em> of a condition that was simply misdiagnosed to begin with. To me Evander boxed the same before and after seeing Benny. Evander always goes limp the last minute of most rounds and tries to flurry the last few seconds before the bell. Well EH should have retired a long time ago, but that's another matter. Has he honestly retired yet? I used to watch a lot of boxing once upon a time. Wondering who the idiots are who pay $50 for a fight? I used to do that sometimes :oops: .

Lisa Lopes was involved with too much worldly stuff that is the main reason she could not find peace.Jesus Christ brings peace of mind;I hate she never found him.That’s really sad!

That says it all right there. Some people recite a chant in front of Eddie Long (I don’t know if she did) and assume their soul is set. Matthew 7:21 shows a simple chant does not cut it. Those who are the Lord’s are sincere in love of the Lord as their ONLY means for Salvation and Peace, by faith and following Him, because they hear His call and He changes them.

Regarding Creflo and Evander, yea, I can’t recall what he gave him off hand, but I think he did give him something, in addition I think he gave Creflo lots of money and we know he wrote a big check to Benny Hinn too. For the supposed healing of a condition that was simply misdiagnosed to begin with. To me Evander boxed the same before and after seeing Benny. Evander always goes limp the last minute of most rounds and tries to flurry the last few seconds before the bell. Well EH should have retired a long time ago, but that’s another matter. Has he honestly retired yet? I used to watch a lot of boxing once upon a time. Wondering who the idiots are who pay $50 for a fight? I used to do that sometimes :oops: .

]]> By: SDM http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/comment-page-1/#comment-6316 SDM Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:21:52 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/#comment-6316 art123,Yes, I seem to attract everyone that has a mental condition(spirts)around me.I think the enemy does that to startle me or unnerve me, but it is a regular occurance with me and it has been for a while now.Lisa Lopes was involved with too much worldly stuff that is the main reason she could not find peace.Jesus Christ brings peace of mind;I hate she never found him.That's really sad! IC, The EvanderH./Creflo divorce situation was a complete mess!Creflo dodged a court appearance because he didn't want anybody digging in his business!I thought Evander gave him a car or something big. art123,Yes, I seem to attract everyone that has a mental condition(spirts)around me.I think the enemy does that to startle me or unnerve me, but it is a regular occurance with me and it has been for a while now.Lisa Lopes was involved with too much worldly stuff that is the main reason she could not find peace.Jesus Christ brings peace of mind;I hate she never found him.That’s really sad!

IC, The EvanderH./Creflo divorce situation was a complete mess!Creflo dodged a court appearance because he didn’t want anybody digging in his business!I thought Evander gave him a car or something big.

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/comment-page-1/#comment-6315 IndependentConservative Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:50:28 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/#comment-6315 SDM, let's not forget when Evander Holyfield joined up with Creflo and despite the many adulterous marriages, adulterous affairs AND ALL, not to mention the man has no gift of teaching or administration, Creflo made him a "minister". Then "minister" Holyfield was married I think by Creflo <em>(I forget which number wife that was)</em>, only to divorce her like all the others. Evander has married again since then. art123 - <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2011:33-36;&version=50;" rel="nofollow">Luke 11:33-36</a> SDM, let’s not forget when Evander Holyfield joined up with Creflo and despite the many adulterous marriages, adulterous affairs AND ALL, not to mention the man has no gift of teaching or administration, Creflo made him a “minister”. Then “minister” Holyfield was married I think by Creflo (I forget which number wife that was), only to divorce her like all the others. Evander has married again since then.

art123 – Luke 11:33-36

]]> By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/comment-page-1/#comment-6312 art123 Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:16:42 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/#comment-6312 Do you believe that you can look into someone's eyes and tell that they're dealing with the darkside. Or if you get into someones presence or even shake their hands. In 2006, I was on a NYC train and this woman was sitting near me, mumbling something and as I looked at her, her eyes looked strange and creepy and send chills down my spine. I got up and away from her. I wouldn't say that it is a constant thing with me but sometimes you can tell. I saw the Lopes documentary myself and her eyes spoke volumes to me. Also Christ in the bible spoke about the eyes if it is light or dark and murky,it testifies of the fruit that you bare in your life. I wish I knew where the scripture is located. As for Eddie Long, those souls whom has went to hell or heading there, their blood is going to be on his hand. Do you believe that you can look into someone’s eyes and tell that they’re dealing with the darkside. Or if you get into someones presence or even shake their hands. In 2006, I was on a NYC train and this woman was sitting near me, mumbling something and as I looked at her, her eyes looked strange and creepy and send chills down my spine. I got up and away from her. I wouldn’t say that it is a constant thing with me but sometimes you can tell. I saw the Lopes documentary myself and her eyes spoke volumes to me. Also Christ in the bible spoke about the eyes if it is light or dark and murky,it testifies of the fruit that you bare in your life. I wish I knew where the scripture is located. As for Eddie Long, those souls whom has went to hell or heading there, their blood is going to be on his hand.

]]> By: SDM http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/comment-page-1/#comment-6311 SDM Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:15:49 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/04/bet_and_satan/#comment-6311 The reason these guys flaunt ("floor-show") the celebrity "clientele" is so they can gain worldly acceptance and popularity.Remember, Creflo Dollar's appearance in Ludacris' "Welcome to Atlanta Video!These men seek world acceptance, so they willingly align themselves with the" movers and shakers " of this world.My sheep hear my voice, and I know them and they follow me. John 10:27 These guys do not follow after Christ;you can tell by their chosen associates. The reason these guys flaunt (“floor-show”) the celebrity “clientele” is so they can gain worldly acceptance and popularity.Remember, Creflo Dollar’s appearance in Ludacris’ “Welcome to Atlanta Video!These men seek world acceptance, so they willingly align themselves with the” movers and shakers ” of this world.My sheep hear my voice, and I know them and they follow me. John 10:27 These guys do not follow after Christ;you can tell by their chosen associates.

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