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	<title>Comments on: Juanita Bynum, Raw and Uncut! (*Updated*)</title>
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		<title>By: art123</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/09/05/raw_juanita/comment-page-1/#comment-5836</link>
		<dc:creator>art123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry. It is Job&#039;s three friends. I&#039;ll close.</description>
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		<title>By: SoliDeoGloriaFella</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/09/05/raw_juanita/comment-page-1/#comment-5835</link>
		<dc:creator>SoliDeoGloriaFella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was Juanita wearing her wedding ring on TBN this week? Just asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was Juanita wearing her wedding ring on TBN this week? Just asking.</p>
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		<title>By: art123</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/09/05/raw_juanita/comment-page-1/#comment-5829</link>
		<dc:creator>art123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Prisca:
When God bless you and give you praise, you should take it humbly. It is not for you to have an holier than thou attitude. Therefore, Job was pretty much self-righteous.   When you do things that are right and good, you do not have to broadcast it. This is where Job fell short. Jesus expounded on that in the New Testament. Therefore, I do agree with you that he should have kept silent. I also agree with you that Job did it due to lack of knowledge. His two friends saw through his holier than thou attitude, but didn&#039;t say the right words to correct him, except Elihu. Like IC said, God used Job&#039;s situation to defeat Satan, and his false accusations, but He also used his situation, to correct what He knew was already in Job&#039;s heart, so he can improve, and still be accepted of God. An example of this, please read Job 33:8-18 and see what Elihi told Job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Prisca:<br />
When God bless you and give you praise, you should take it humbly. It is not for you to have an holier than thou attitude. Therefore, Job was pretty much self-righteous.   When you do things that are right and good, you do not have to broadcast it. This is where Job fell short. Jesus expounded on that in the New Testament. Therefore, I do agree with you that he should have kept silent. I also agree with you that Job did it due to lack of knowledge. His two friends saw through his holier than thou attitude, but didn&#8217;t say the right words to correct him, except Elihu. Like IC said, God used Job&#8217;s situation to defeat Satan, and his false accusations, but He also used his situation, to correct what He knew was already in Job&#8217;s heart, so he can improve, and still be accepted of God. An example of this, please read Job 33:8-18 and see what Elihi told Job.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/09/05/raw_juanita/comment-page-1/#comment-5822</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re parsing words with a hair grain dicer :D .

I think we all agree although we&#039;re trying not to use the wrong words in describing it.  Because we all realize that God Himself cited Job as righteous and like no other, but all men have room to improve.

We all agree Job did not suffer material loss because of any issue within himself, but rather because God allowed Satan to propose the challenge to test Job and the Lord used Job to shame Satan.  Unlike how Juanita tried to describe Job in relation to herself.  

So Job was doing well, God helped him even improve on that.  Juanita is not Job, not even close and anytime she speaks of scripture it&#039;s usually her twisting it, as was in this case.

But hey, she said on TBN that she&#039;ll &quot;come forth as pure gold&quot;, but she never related that to the gift of eternal life...  She&#039;s going for the GOLD of this earth!

art123&#039;s comment had to be included, because the Juanita-nuts will come by and would try to do the &lt;em&gt;Juanita-twist&lt;/em&gt; with it and try to justify their pimp with wrongly divided scripture, instead of a rightly divided exposition of the scriptures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re parsing words with a hair grain dicer <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>I think we all agree although we&#8217;re trying not to use the wrong words in describing it.  Because we all realize that God Himself cited Job as righteous and like no other, but all men have room to improve.</p>
<p>We all agree Job did not suffer material loss because of any issue within himself, but rather because God allowed Satan to propose the challenge to test Job and the Lord used Job to shame Satan.  Unlike how Juanita tried to describe Job in relation to herself.  </p>
<p>So Job was doing well, God helped him even improve on that.  Juanita is not Job, not even close and anytime she speaks of scripture it&#8217;s usually her twisting it, as was in this case.</p>
<p>But hey, she said on TBN that she&#8217;ll &#8220;come forth as pure gold&#8221;, but she never related that to the gift of eternal life&#8230;  She&#8217;s going for the GOLD of this earth!</p>
<p>art123&#8217;s comment had to be included, because the Juanita-nuts will come by and would try to do the <em>Juanita-twist</em> with it and try to justify their pimp with wrongly divided scripture, instead of a rightly divided exposition of the scriptures.</p>
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		<title>By: Prisca</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/09/05/raw_juanita/comment-page-1/#comment-5819</link>
		<dc:creator>Prisca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother IC, in your initial synopsis of Job being blameless, you are not incorrect.  You are also on point in showing that Juanita&#039;s ministerial work has been nothing remotely close to that of Job&#039;s life, trials, correction, and ultimate restoration.  Job was not wealthy by ill-gotten gains; the work of his hands glorified God, not himself.  This is a very far cry from the work of Juanita and those of her ilk.  There can be no comparison.

In Job&#039;s rebuke by God, he was rebuked for his mouth that spoke things that, in its regard, he should have kept silent.  Job maintains his innocence of the charges applied his friends by the work of his faith.  We read in the OT of many, who, in their proclamation of doing, or having done, a right thing in the sight of God, will say, &quot;May the Lord do so, and more, if....&quot;.  It is the same with Job; Job examined himself in light of the charges brought on by his friends, and opened himself for God&#039;s rebuke if found remiss.  It doesn&#039;t make him self-righteous, it makes him ignorant; and the Lord called him on it.  I use the word &#039;ignorant&#039; cautiously, as to your point, we all fall short in maintaining humility; yet, the Lord chastises those He loves. However, to render Job as self-righteous in light of this instance, would disharmonize the Scriptures, where he is plainly noted as blameless and upright by God, Himself.  We find in the final chapter that, Job repented of his &#039;ignorance&#039;, was restored, AND led by God to pray for his friends upon their atoning sacrifices.

Job&#039;s friends are the voices of those, such as Juanita, and their followers, who measure God&#039;s presence in one&#039;s life by earthly gain, good health, and worldly popularity.  God&#039;s rebuke, though He spoke directly to Job, was therefore, more for Job&#039;s friends than it was for Job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother IC, in your initial synopsis of Job being blameless, you are not incorrect.  You are also on point in showing that Juanita&#8217;s ministerial work has been nothing remotely close to that of Job&#8217;s life, trials, correction, and ultimate restoration.  Job was not wealthy by ill-gotten gains; the work of his hands glorified God, not himself.  This is a very far cry from the work of Juanita and those of her ilk.  There can be no comparison.</p>
<p>In Job&#8217;s rebuke by God, he was rebuked for his mouth that spoke things that, in its regard, he should have kept silent.  Job maintains his innocence of the charges applied his friends by the work of his faith.  We read in the OT of many, who, in their proclamation of doing, or having done, a right thing in the sight of God, will say, &#8220;May the Lord do so, and more, if&#8230;.&#8221;.  It is the same with Job; Job examined himself in light of the charges brought on by his friends, and opened himself for God&#8217;s rebuke if found remiss.  It doesn&#8217;t make him self-righteous, it makes him ignorant; and the Lord called him on it.  I use the word &#8216;ignorant&#8217; cautiously, as to your point, we all fall short in maintaining humility; yet, the Lord chastises those He loves. However, to render Job as self-righteous in light of this instance, would disharmonize the Scriptures, where he is plainly noted as blameless and upright by God, Himself.  We find in the final chapter that, Job repented of his &#8216;ignorance&#8217;, was restored, AND led by God to pray for his friends upon their atoning sacrifices.</p>
<p>Job&#8217;s friends are the voices of those, such as Juanita, and their followers, who measure God&#8217;s presence in one&#8217;s life by earthly gain, good health, and worldly popularity.  God&#8217;s rebuke, though He spoke directly to Job, was therefore, more for Job&#8217;s friends than it was for Job.</p>
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		<title>By: KyleAndrews</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/09/05/raw_juanita/comment-page-1/#comment-5817</link>
		<dc:creator>KyleAndrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FourPointer,

Your on to something.  Keep peeling back the layers of deceit and you will find that this is actually cultic.  I posted on PP.org about Romans 1:24-32 and Mathew 4:8-11 proving that the Pimps have used the Devil to obtain earthly wealth AND by thier fruit you can see that they are reprobates going to hell.  I think it was a pretty good synopsis. 

Kyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FourPointer,</p>
<p>Your on to something.  Keep peeling back the layers of deceit and you will find that this is actually cultic.  I posted on PP.org about Romans 1:24-32 and Mathew 4:8-11 proving that the Pimps have used the Devil to obtain earthly wealth AND by thier fruit you can see that they are reprobates going to hell.  I think it was a pretty good synopsis. </p>
<p>Kyle</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/09/05/raw_juanita/comment-page-1/#comment-5815</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve updated the post with comment #5.  I think you&#039;re correct, that although God cited Job as a man who was standing for good and: &lt;em&gt;(from Job 1:8)&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In front of God Job was still just a human who depended on God. Job could not be good through his own self righteousness.  Which is why we know that salvation must be a call on our hearts from our Lord alone, because our flesh does not desire good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve updated the post with comment #5.  I think you&#8217;re correct, that although God cited Job as a man who was standing for good and: <em>(from Job 1:8)</em></p>
<blockquote><p>that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil</p></blockquote>
<p>In front of God Job was still just a human who depended on God. Job could not be good through his own self righteousness.  Which is why we know that salvation must be a call on our hearts from our Lord alone, because our flesh does not desire good.</p>
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		<title>By: art123</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/09/05/raw_juanita/comment-page-1/#comment-5814</link>
		<dc:creator>art123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add, I believe what God was saying to Job is though He said he was righteous, it doesn&#039;t exceed His righteousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add, I believe what God was saying to Job is though He said he was righteous, it doesn&#8217;t exceed His righteousness.</p>
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		<title>By: art123</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/09/05/raw_juanita/comment-page-1/#comment-5812</link>
		<dc:creator>art123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To IC:
I would like to comment on the book of Job if I may. Though God described Job as a righteous man, if you observe Job 38-41, God chastised him for being self-righteous. Also, in his suffering, God was showing Job what was in his heart and who his real friends were. To prove it read Job 31:6, Job 32:1, and Job 27:5-6. In Job 42:5-6, it gave him room to repent of this. However, I do see what you&#039;re saying when Bynum stated that God allowed Job to suffer because he was self-exalted. Job was being tested to see if his love for God stands true. Does he love God because he have it all or not? In Bynum&#039;s case, I believe it is because of her false doctrine and leading lost soul astray. Her judgment is light for now. If you need to correct me, please do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To IC:<br />
I would like to comment on the book of Job if I may. Though God described Job as a righteous man, if you observe Job 38-41, God chastised him for being self-righteous. Also, in his suffering, God was showing Job what was in his heart and who his real friends were. To prove it read Job 31:6, Job 32:1, and Job 27:5-6. In Job 42:5-6, it gave him room to repent of this. However, I do see what you&#8217;re saying when Bynum stated that God allowed Job to suffer because he was self-exalted. Job was being tested to see if his love for God stands true. Does he love God because he have it all or not? In Bynum&#8217;s case, I believe it is because of her false doctrine and leading lost soul astray. Her judgment is light for now. If you need to correct me, please do.</p>
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		<title>By: Prisca</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/09/05/raw_juanita/comment-page-1/#comment-5792</link>
		<dc:creator>Prisca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL @ Fourpointer&#039;s last comment regarding the &#039;tongues&#039;.  It will make you consider going there, I&#039;m sure.  Peace, be still!  Whew!!

I just watched this Jezebel in an exclusive interview with a news reporter of Fox5-Atlanta.  She is a snake and a pitiful liar.  It&#039;s all about Juanita, as it has been, and will always be, until she recognizes the fact that she, herself, is lost.  A national spokesperson for Domestic Violence is now her calling, eh?   She is setting herself up to go back into the world (as if she has ever left it), and partake of the rudiments thereof, with the blessings of her followers, no less.  She mentions nothing of reconciling with her adulterous 2nd husband, or the first for that matter.  And, folks don&#039;t see anything wrong with this Prophetess?

If there was one reason that Obama was not getting my vote, I now have two.  If he socializes with the likes of Juanita and Oprah&#039;s ilk, he is a marked man.  

And, people, she did not use the ghetto-infused, non-existent word, &quot;conversate&quot;, did she?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ Fourpointer&#8217;s last comment regarding the &#8216;tongues&#8217;.  It will make you consider going there, I&#8217;m sure.  Peace, be still!  Whew!!</p>
<p>I just watched this Jezebel in an exclusive interview with a news reporter of Fox5-Atlanta.  She is a snake and a pitiful liar.  It&#8217;s all about Juanita, as it has been, and will always be, until she recognizes the fact that she, herself, is lost.  A national spokesperson for Domestic Violence is now her calling, eh?   She is setting herself up to go back into the world (as if she has ever left it), and partake of the rudiments thereof, with the blessings of her followers, no less.  She mentions nothing of reconciling with her adulterous 2nd husband, or the first for that matter.  And, folks don&#8217;t see anything wrong with this Prophetess?</p>
<p>If there was one reason that Obama was not getting my vote, I now have two.  If he socializes with the likes of Juanita and Oprah&#8217;s ilk, he is a marked man.  </p>
<p>And, people, she did not use the ghetto-infused, non-existent word, &#8220;conversate&#8221;, did she?</p>
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