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	<title>Comments on: Calling Out Pulpit Pimps is Not Easy.  Reuben Armstrong Dumped By Streaming-no-faith (aka streamingfaith.com).</title>
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		<title>By: DL Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/13/reuben_armstrong_sacked_by_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-5589</link>
		<dc:creator>DL Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spark, I live here in ATL too. I missed the program, although I will confess I couldnt stomach the mindless drivel dripping out of Lorraine White&#039;s mouth so I stopped tuning in long ago.

I am extremely dissapointed to hear this news about Armstrong I know that the liberals (even the religious types) capitalize of passive inefficiency. &lt;a href=&quot;http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/bet-show-on-homosexuality-poorly-discussed/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Witness how they chewed up the false prophet Bernard Jordan over homosexuality.&lt;/a&gt; They are like pirhana on a feeding frenzy when a guest is inept at defending themselves. Perhaps Armstrong thougth he would have a sympathetic ear. I hope he stays off the air until he can get his message together. 

Even more nauseating than the pimps is a detractor who is clueless in public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spark, I live here in ATL too. I missed the program, although I will confess I couldnt stomach the mindless drivel dripping out of Lorraine White&#8217;s mouth so I stopped tuning in long ago.</p>
<p>I am extremely dissapointed to hear this news about Armstrong I know that the liberals (even the religious types) capitalize of passive inefficiency. <a href="http://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/bet-show-on-homosexuality-poorly-discussed/" rel="nofollow">Witness how they chewed up the false prophet Bernard Jordan over homosexuality.</a> They are like pirhana on a feeding frenzy when a guest is inept at defending themselves. Perhaps Armstrong thougth he would have a sympathetic ear. I hope he stays off the air until he can get his message together. </p>
<p>Even more nauseating than the pimps is a detractor who is clueless in public.</p>
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		<title>By: spark</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/13/reuben_armstrong_sacked_by_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-5577</link>
		<dc:creator>spark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this article in my local paper today (The Atlanta Journal and Constitution)--&quot;Glitzy Gala to Praise Eddie Long&quot; (see http://www.ajc.com/news/content/living/stories/2007/08/17/long_0817.html). The article references Mr. Armstrong&#039;s book and his being dumped by streamingfaith.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this article in my local paper today (The Atlanta Journal and Constitution)&#8211;&#8221;Glitzy Gala to Praise Eddie Long&#8221; (see <a href="http://www.ajc.com/news/content/living/stories/2007/08/17/long_0817.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.ajc.com/news/content/living/stories/2007/08/17/long_0817.html)</a>. The article references Mr. Armstrong&#8217;s book and his being dumped by streamingfaith.com.</p>
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		<title>By: art123</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/13/reuben_armstrong_sacked_by_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-5570</link>
		<dc:creator>art123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took a lot of courage to do what he did for gospel sake. It is all about saving souls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took a lot of courage to do what he did for gospel sake. It is all about saving souls.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/13/reuben_armstrong_sacked_by_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-5569</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well she&#039;s not able to accept all the scriptures detailing that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%202:11-13&amp;version=50&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;women are not to be in positions of church leadership over men.&lt;/a&gt;  So you can&#039;t expect sound doctrine from the woman.  I used to really get them going back in the day when I lived in the Atlanta area.  Eventually I left them alone, just let them go on fooling themselves.

I&#039;m surprised they didn&#039;t have a Muslim call in and dignify their cult of Muhammad garbage.  The poverty pimps of the SCLC practically run the direction of that station and bounce any that don&#039;t tow their line.  Lorraine Jacques-White has major ties to the NAACP and so anyone that dares talk about those pimps gets venom from her.  Christians weak in scripture, Muslims, race baiters and homosexuals all love that station.  Maybe that&#039;s why they rank so long in the Arbitron ratings :D .

If you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/index.php?s=waok&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;check out the posts I&#039;ve made mentioning WAOK-AM&lt;/a&gt;, you&#039;ll see I&#039;ve noted their mess many times over.  Pimps like Eddie Long are tight with the race baiting pimps, since Long courted the King family, so that CS King would pass the &lt;em&gt;&quot;mantle of King&quot; (whatever bogus mess that is)&lt;/em&gt; over to him.  Or maybe they courted him first, since they saw he was a big pimp in town.  It all started when they called Long in to give the MLK-Day sermon some years back.  And you know they make the speaker &lt;em&gt;water down&lt;/em&gt; any message they give so that it IS NOT SAID that Jesus Christ is the ONLY means to salvation and ALL OTHER ROADS LEAD TO HELL AND DAMNATION.  I guess Long was able to get past that test with some crafty language and was in good with them from there.  Of course if you honestly believe Jesus is the only way to salvation, you might not even agree to give an address in a church building that is seen as a sermon, regarding MLK, Jr. in the first place, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/07/03/mlk_christian/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;given MLK, Jr. probably was not a Christian.&lt;/a&gt;  They pull up a Liberal &quot;preacher&quot; every year to give it and I&#039;ve seen people with doctrine all over the place be allowed to give the MLK-Day sermon in the Ebenezer Baptist building, no surprise of course.  I guess the real irony is that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/11/16/creflo_dollar/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Raphael Warnock, openly speaks AGAINST the prosperity doctrine.&lt;/a&gt;

OK I&#039;ll stop there :) .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well she&#8217;s not able to accept all the scriptures detailing that <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%202:11-13&amp;version=50" rel="nofollow">women are not to be in positions of church leadership over men.</a>  So you can&#8217;t expect sound doctrine from the woman.  I used to really get them going back in the day when I lived in the Atlanta area.  Eventually I left them alone, just let them go on fooling themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised they didn&#8217;t have a Muslim call in and dignify their cult of Muhammad garbage.  The poverty pimps of the SCLC practically run the direction of that station and bounce any that don&#8217;t tow their line.  Lorraine Jacques-White has major ties to the NAACP and so anyone that dares talk about those pimps gets venom from her.  Christians weak in scripture, Muslims, race baiters and homosexuals all love that station.  Maybe that&#8217;s why they rank so long in the Arbitron ratings <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>If you <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/index.php?s=waok" rel="nofollow">check out the posts I&#8217;ve made mentioning WAOK-AM</a>, you&#8217;ll see I&#8217;ve noted their mess many times over.  Pimps like Eddie Long are tight with the race baiting pimps, since Long courted the King family, so that CS King would pass the <em>&#8220;mantle of King&#8221; (whatever bogus mess that is)</em> over to him.  Or maybe they courted him first, since they saw he was a big pimp in town.  It all started when they called Long in to give the MLK-Day sermon some years back.  And you know they make the speaker <em>water down</em> any message they give so that it IS NOT SAID that Jesus Christ is the ONLY means to salvation and ALL OTHER ROADS LEAD TO HELL AND DAMNATION.  I guess Long was able to get past that test with some crafty language and was in good with them from there.  Of course if you honestly believe Jesus is the only way to salvation, you might not even agree to give an address in a church building that is seen as a sermon, regarding MLK, Jr. in the first place, <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/07/03/mlk_christian/" rel="nofollow">given MLK, Jr. probably was not a Christian.</a>  They pull up a Liberal &#8220;preacher&#8221; every year to give it and I&#8217;ve seen people with doctrine all over the place be allowed to give the MLK-Day sermon in the Ebenezer Baptist building, no surprise of course.  I guess the real irony is that <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/11/16/creflo_dollar/" rel="nofollow">Raphael Warnock, openly speaks AGAINST the prosperity doctrine.</a></p>
<p>OK I&#8217;ll stop there <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
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		<title>By: spark</title>
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		<dc:creator>spark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent counsel to our brother.  And, yes, the radio show was Power Talk on WAOK-AM--you know the deal with that show and its host.     He should have been able to swiftly and summarily dismiss the host and the listeners of this shallow show with scripture because they are so ignorant and ill-informed.  

Side bar:  It was hilarious when the host transistioned from her &quot;sistah-girl&quot; voice and put on a proper condescending &quot;I am smarter than you guys&quot; tone and told the audience that the problem with Mr. Armstrong is that he doesn&#039;t know how to  exegete scripture like she does because she has a Master&#039;s of Divinity degree.  This from a woman who brings a physic (&quot;Bishop&quot; Jordan) on her show regularly to tell fortunes . I guess she hasn&#039;t gotten around to exegeting Matthew 7:21-23= Many who work miracles in God&#039;s name will not enter 
heaven. Why? Because they do not obey God. Leviticus 20:6= God will separate himself from those who go after 
mediums and familiar spirits. Leviticus 19:31= Stay away from mediums and familiar spirits.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12= practicing witchcraft, sorcerery, soothsaying 
(forture-telling), interpreting omens, making spells, being a medium or 
spiritist, are all terrible sins to God.  


I will continue to pray for Mr. Armstrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent counsel to our brother.  And, yes, the radio show was Power Talk on WAOK-AM&#8211;you know the deal with that show and its host.     He should have been able to swiftly and summarily dismiss the host and the listeners of this shallow show with scripture because they are so ignorant and ill-informed.  </p>
<p>Side bar:  It was hilarious when the host transistioned from her &#8220;sistah-girl&#8221; voice and put on a proper condescending &#8220;I am smarter than you guys&#8221; tone and told the audience that the problem with Mr. Armstrong is that he doesn&#8217;t know how to  exegete scripture like she does because she has a Master&#8217;s of Divinity degree.  This from a woman who brings a physic (&#8220;Bishop&#8221; Jordan) on her show regularly to tell fortunes . I guess she hasn&#8217;t gotten around to exegeting Matthew 7:21-23= Many who work miracles in God&#8217;s name will not enter<br />
heaven. Why? Because they do not obey God. Leviticus 20:6= God will separate himself from those who go after<br />
mediums and familiar spirits. Leviticus 19:31= Stay away from mediums and familiar spirits.<br />
Deuteronomy 18:10-12= practicing witchcraft, sorcerery, soothsaying<br />
(forture-telling), interpreting omens, making spells, being a medium or<br />
spiritist, are all terrible sins to God.  </p>
<p>I will continue to pray for Mr. Armstrong.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/13/reuben_armstrong_sacked_by_nuts/comment-page-1/#comment-5566</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spark, thank you for letting me know.

I called Mr. Armstrong after reading your comment.  &lt;em&gt;(I&#039;ve had his number, he sent it to me, just never had time to call him.  Given this I had to make time.)&lt;/em&gt;  He was on WAOK-AM with all around Liberal nut-case &lt;a href=&quot;http://waok.com/pages/14462.php?&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lorraine Jacques-White&lt;/a&gt;.  I used to go rounds with her when I lived in Atlanta, calling into her show and exposing her Liberal nonsense, given she&#039;s usually talking politics.  As you know they don&#039;t talk scripture much, so I&#039;m shocked that she would try and debate scripture.  

I let Armstrong know that he&#039;s going to have to make this a debate over scripture even if he does not desire to.  He&#039;s got to present a rightfully divided presentation of scripture versus what is being twisted.

Mr. Armstrong informed me that this will be the first of many books exposing pimps.  He&#039;s got some others in the works.  I won&#039;t tell all the details of what he told me regarding that, I&#039;ll just say he&#039;s ready to expose a lot.

Armstrong would like to have that sort of major debate where we could go at it with the pimps.  However, I told Armstrong a massive number of theologians have already debated people like Eddie Long via the media and it does not matter.  The pimps don&#039;t care.  Having a debate on stage is not going to change them.  They love the poison they are sucking in.  Pimps like them are already beyond the first and second admonition, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus%203:10-11;&amp;version=50;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Titus 3:10-11&lt;/a&gt;.  If the Lord does not open their hearts and they don&#039;t repent, their reprobate minds will go with them to hell.

What I&#039;ve asked Armstrong to do and as you know I do here, is to &lt;b&gt;present scripture and hold it up against these pimps, FOR THE SAKE OF THE SAINTS WHO PUT SCRIPTURE ABOVE MEN.&lt;/b&gt;  I told Armstrong, the scriptures are what must be used to make the case.  To rightfully divide scripture and show what is really in scripture versus what pimps attempt to claim is there.

I think the Lord has helped Armstrong see the problem regarding there being pimps out there.  Like many of us, the Lord helped him see through a pimp he was once with.  The Lord has allowed Armstrong enough of a platform to reach people.  And I think Armstrong is going to have to make the issue one of doctrine and scripture.

I&#039;ve passed him some things to help him out.  I&#039;m not a guy who has time or wants to tour the nation debating.  My place is with my family, I work this blog given it&#039;s a means for me to speak and continue my duty to my family.  But if Armstrong is going to tour and debate, he&#039;s going to have to be on point himself.  Always referring to someone else is not going to ensure he knows how to rightfully divide scripture himself.  He&#039;s got to be sharp himself and being a talk-show host he can do it.

Pray the Lord&#039;s will be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spark, thank you for letting me know.</p>
<p>I called Mr. Armstrong after reading your comment.  <em>(I&#8217;ve had his number, he sent it to me, just never had time to call him.  Given this I had to make time.)</em>  He was on WAOK-AM with all around Liberal nut-case <a href="http://waok.com/pages/14462.php?" rel="nofollow">Lorraine Jacques-White</a>.  I used to go rounds with her when I lived in Atlanta, calling into her show and exposing her Liberal nonsense, given she&#8217;s usually talking politics.  As you know they don&#8217;t talk scripture much, so I&#8217;m shocked that she would try and debate scripture.  </p>
<p>I let Armstrong know that he&#8217;s going to have to make this a debate over scripture even if he does not desire to.  He&#8217;s got to present a rightfully divided presentation of scripture versus what is being twisted.</p>
<p>Mr. Armstrong informed me that this will be the first of many books exposing pimps.  He&#8217;s got some others in the works.  I won&#8217;t tell all the details of what he told me regarding that, I&#8217;ll just say he&#8217;s ready to expose a lot.</p>
<p>Armstrong would like to have that sort of major debate where we could go at it with the pimps.  However, I told Armstrong a massive number of theologians have already debated people like Eddie Long via the media and it does not matter.  The pimps don&#8217;t care.  Having a debate on stage is not going to change them.  They love the poison they are sucking in.  Pimps like them are already beyond the first and second admonition, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus%203:10-11;&amp;version=50;" rel="nofollow">Titus 3:10-11</a>.  If the Lord does not open their hearts and they don&#8217;t repent, their reprobate minds will go with them to hell.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;ve asked Armstrong to do and as you know I do here, is to <b>present scripture and hold it up against these pimps, FOR THE SAKE OF THE SAINTS WHO PUT SCRIPTURE ABOVE MEN.</b>  I told Armstrong, the scriptures are what must be used to make the case.  To rightfully divide scripture and show what is really in scripture versus what pimps attempt to claim is there.</p>
<p>I think the Lord has helped Armstrong see the problem regarding there being pimps out there.  Like many of us, the Lord helped him see through a pimp he was once with.  The Lord has allowed Armstrong enough of a platform to reach people.  And I think Armstrong is going to have to make the issue one of doctrine and scripture.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve passed him some things to help him out.  I&#8217;m not a guy who has time or wants to tour the nation debating.  My place is with my family, I work this blog given it&#8217;s a means for me to speak and continue my duty to my family.  But if Armstrong is going to tour and debate, he&#8217;s going to have to be on point himself.  Always referring to someone else is not going to ensure he knows how to rightfully divide scripture himself.  He&#8217;s got to be sharp himself and being a talk-show host he can do it.</p>
<p>Pray the Lord&#8217;s will be done.</p>
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		<title>By: spark</title>
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		<dc:creator>spark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support Mr. Armstrong calling out the pulpit pimps.  I am disappointed however, by his inability to cogently defend his position.  

I learned of Mr. Armstrong and his book through your recent posts.  I happened upon a talk radio show in Atlanta this morning and Mr. Armstrong was a guest on the show. Unfortunately, Mr. Armstrong was ripped  by the host and the callers, as he was unable to intelligently respond to any of the questions posed or issues raised. I felt sorry for him.   Most sad was the fact that he seemed to have little to no biblical literacy.  If you are going to come out with a sensationally titled book, naming names and all, you need to be prepared to bring it!    

Mr. Armstrong even brought a female tag team partner on to rescue him and her responses and comments were embarrassing. They simply were unable to support Mr. Armstrong&#039;s thesis regarding the pimps.      

Two (2) of the mega pimps Mr. Armstrong mentions in his book run mega stables here in Atlanta (i.e, New Birth and World Changers).  Mr. Armstrong&#039;s interview should have been an opportunity for the many in this city who are being deceived or for those here with family members caught up in those mega messes to be enlightened with truth and for the deception to be clearly exposed.  Instead, Armstrong&#039;s position was eviscerated, and he was sent off the air in tears--literally (I kid not, the man actually broke down in tears at the end of the interview).  

I pray that as Mr. Armstrong prepares to be on more media outlets to promote his book, that he will ask God for wisdom.  I also pray that if he is going to have a tag team, that it will consist of brothers like yourself, the gentleman over at pulpit-pimps.com, John Coleman, et.al who are equipped with the intellectual capability and the scriptural sagacity to adroitly oppose and expose error in the church.  

Nevertheless, I applaud and encourage Mr. Armstrong and all of you &quot;whistle blowers&quot; to continue (and hopefully coalesce) in the great work to which I believed God has called you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support Mr. Armstrong calling out the pulpit pimps.  I am disappointed however, by his inability to cogently defend his position.  </p>
<p>I learned of Mr. Armstrong and his book through your recent posts.  I happened upon a talk radio show in Atlanta this morning and Mr. Armstrong was a guest on the show. Unfortunately, Mr. Armstrong was ripped  by the host and the callers, as he was unable to intelligently respond to any of the questions posed or issues raised. I felt sorry for him.   Most sad was the fact that he seemed to have little to no biblical literacy.  If you are going to come out with a sensationally titled book, naming names and all, you need to be prepared to bring it!    </p>
<p>Mr. Armstrong even brought a female tag team partner on to rescue him and her responses and comments were embarrassing. They simply were unable to support Mr. Armstrong&#8217;s thesis regarding the pimps.      </p>
<p>Two (2) of the mega pimps Mr. Armstrong mentions in his book run mega stables here in Atlanta (i.e, New Birth and World Changers).  Mr. Armstrong&#8217;s interview should have been an opportunity for the many in this city who are being deceived or for those here with family members caught up in those mega messes to be enlightened with truth and for the deception to be clearly exposed.  Instead, Armstrong&#8217;s position was eviscerated, and he was sent off the air in tears&#8211;literally (I kid not, the man actually broke down in tears at the end of the interview).  </p>
<p>I pray that as Mr. Armstrong prepares to be on more media outlets to promote his book, that he will ask God for wisdom.  I also pray that if he is going to have a tag team, that it will consist of brothers like yourself, the gentleman over at pulpit-pimps.com, John Coleman, et.al who are equipped with the intellectual capability and the scriptural sagacity to adroitly oppose and expose error in the church.  </p>
<p>Nevertheless, I applaud and encourage Mr. Armstrong and all of you &#8220;whistle blowers&#8221; to continue (and hopefully coalesce) in the great work to which I believed God has called you all.</p>
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		<description>[...] Posted by healtheland on August 13th, 2007  See this link: Calling Out Pulpit Pimps is Not Easy. Reuben Armstrong Dumped By Streaming-no-faith (aka streamingfaith.com). Now I had been putting devotionals by doctrinally sound pastors provided by Streaming Faith on this weblog, but no more! [...]</description>
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