Comments on: Pulpit Sex Pimps Get “Forgiveness” From Their Followers, While Their Victims Get Ignored! http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/09/pulpit_sex_pimps/ The Independent Conservative saying what needs to be said! Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:35:55 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: fourpointer http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/09/pulpit_sex_pimps/comment-page-1/#comment-5543 fourpointer Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:17:29 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1507#comment-5543 I had read about his passing. I heard him back when I was a relatively new Christian, so I might not have given much thought to some things he said. Thanks for the info! I had read about his passing.

I heard him back when I was a relatively new Christian, so I might not have given much thought to some things he said. Thanks for the info!

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/09/pulpit_sex_pimps/comment-page-1/#comment-5542 IndependentConservative Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:04:02 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1507#comment-5542 I have to agree that for most of what I saw of him, GE Patterson's preached messages were <em>for the most part</em> theologically sound. There were issues with him though. I don't mind listing them because they should be known: 1) The man had a building with his own name on the street. The building he pastored in is at 369 G.E. Patterson Avenue. And that street name was there WAY BEFORE he died. I think the man was a little too full of himself to allow that. 2) Allowing totally improper use of what they call <a href="http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2007/06/25/tongues" rel="nofollow">Tongues</a>. 3) The tithe enforcement. See <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/08/reconsidering_tithing/" rel="nofollow">Reconsidering the Tithe.</a> 4) While he did more than others to try and avoid it, he had linkage to pimps and Oneness heretics like Noel Jones. 5) Given #4 above, he would never strongly speak against the pimps and name them. Honestly, I have no problem saying GE Patterson was the best man of the entire COGIC lot and no person within COGIC will deny that. But there were issues and I don't consider them petty in nature. I guess trying to cover scandal should be #6 on my list above... I will add, I am glad COGIC takes a strong stand against homosexual behavior and continues to do so. I have to agree that for most of what I saw of him, GE Patterson’s preached messages were for the most part theologically sound.

There were issues with him though. I don’t mind listing them because they should be known:

1) The man had a building with his own name on the street. The building he pastored in is at 369 G.E. Patterson Avenue. And that street name was there WAY BEFORE he died. I think the man was a little too full of himself to allow that.

2) Allowing totally improper use of what they call Tongues.

3) The tithe enforcement. See Reconsidering the Tithe.

4) While he did more than others to try and avoid it, he had linkage to pimps and Oneness heretics like Noel Jones.

5) Given #4 above, he would never strongly speak against the pimps and name them.

Honestly, I have no problem saying GE Patterson was the best man of the entire COGIC lot and no person within COGIC will deny that. But there were issues and I don’t consider them petty in nature. I guess trying to cover scandal should be #6 on my list above…

I will add, I am glad COGIC takes a strong stand against homosexual behavior and continues to do so.

]]> By: DL Foster http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/09/pulpit_sex_pimps/comment-page-1/#comment-5541 DL Foster Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:12:11 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1507#comment-5541 4Pointer, of course you know GE is dead now. But as far as I know his theology was sound. I never heard him say or talk some of the more foolish ideology currently being espoused by some clergy. To me he was real "old school" theologian and I did appreciate that about him. Im sure thats what endeared him to the many thousands who heard him weekly. Im not saying he didn't have faults, but theologically I would give him an A. Also I am shocked at the story you linked. Note: there <b>are</b> many more. I think there needs to be an internal outcry within COGIC (the church of my birth) for reform and accountability regarding these things. Im sick of this lets just pray and let the Lord handle it mentality. Meanwhile the sexual wolves and immoral prophets of the flesh seek new victims. Whew! 4Pointer, of course you know GE is dead now. But as far as I know his theology was sound. I never heard him say or talk some of the more foolish ideology currently being espoused by some clergy. To me he was real “old school” theologian and I did appreciate that about him. Im sure thats what endeared him to the many thousands who heard him weekly. Im not saying he didn’t have faults, but theologically I would give him an A.

Also I am shocked at the story you linked. Note: there are many more. I think there needs to be an internal outcry within COGIC (the church of my birth) for reform and accountability regarding these things. Im sick of this lets just pray and let the Lord handle it mentality. Meanwhile the sexual wolves and immoral prophets of the flesh seek new victims. Whew!

]]> By: Churches Protect Rapist Preachers While Ignoring Victims « Heal The Land With Spiritual Warfare http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/09/pulpit_sex_pimps/comment-page-1/#comment-5540 Churches Protect Rapist Preachers While Ignoring Victims « Heal The Land With Spiritual Warfare Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:58:30 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1507#comment-5540 [...] Posted by healtheland on August 10th, 2007 Read it all here: Pulpit Sex Pimps Get “Forgiveness” From Their Followers, While Their Victims Get Ignored! [...] [...] Posted by healtheland on August 10th, 2007 Read it all here: Pulpit Sex Pimps Get “Forgiveness” From Their Followers, While Their Victims Get Ignored! [...]

]]> By: fourpointer http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/09/pulpit_sex_pimps/comment-page-1/#comment-5539 fourpointer Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:33:38 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1507#comment-5539 We had our own similar story here in Knoxville this past year. Another COGIC preacher, another "Oh, let's just let it slide and keep him in the pulpit." Story <a href="http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=45275" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Speaking of COGIC, I got a question about GE Patterson. I used to watch him on TV, and the few times I saw him he seemed OK. What can you tell me about his doctrine, etc.? We had our own similar story here in Knoxville this past year. Another COGIC preacher, another “Oh, let’s just let it slide and keep him in the pulpit.” Story here.

Speaking of COGIC, I got a question about GE Patterson. I used to watch him on TV, and the few times I saw him he seemed OK. What can you tell me about his doctrine, etc.?

]]> By: DL Foster http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/09/pulpit_sex_pimps/comment-page-1/#comment-5538 DL Foster Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:03:17 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1507#comment-5538 A few years ago, I used to serve as a co-moderator on the now defunct COGIC Forums. When a poster brought up the question about just how does COGIC handle sexual predators within the pastoral ranks, and we started discussing it the powers that be (someone told me that GE Patterson had been told about it), pressured the site owner to shut it down. I see they still have a serious problem with this and still there is no public acknowledgement to the victims or even that the problem exists. For further reference see my article <a href="http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/abuse.html" rel="nofollow">Living in an immoral church</a> A few years ago, I used to serve as a co-moderator on the now defunct COGIC Forums.
When a poster brought up the question about just how does COGIC handle sexual predators within the pastoral ranks, and we started discussing it the powers that be (someone told me that GE Patterson had been told about it), pressured the site owner to shut it down.

I see they still have a serious problem with this and still there is no public acknowledgement to the victims or even that the problem exists.

For further reference see my article Living in an immoral church

]]> By: alady1969 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/08/09/pulpit_sex_pimps/comment-page-1/#comment-5536 alady1969 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:44:24 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1507#comment-5536 I can speak on one who image of a so call Man of God was distorted by the perverted act of molestation from a Pastor at the age of 13. For about 2yrs. I would take up the whole site expressing the affect that had on my life. I'll just say it caused a tremendous amount of damage! So much so the process of healing did not take place until my late 30yrs. Am 38 now, get the picture. I share this to add to IC comments and confirm they are valid points and many who have not had there lives defiled by the hands of these kinds of perverted people. Can quick to say why not tell, why keep going, why , why, why. Well believe me we ask ourselves those same questions. We even ask God! It's deeper then one knows if they have not been affect by this. Nevertheless those who protect them once they have been exposed(no matter the length of time) is held accountable as well. The bottom line is they MUST be called out, removed, and prosecuted PERIOD! I can speak on one who image of a so call Man of God was distorted by the perverted act of molestation from a Pastor at the age of 13. For about 2yrs. I would take up the whole site expressing the affect that had on my life. I’ll just say it caused a tremendous amount of damage! So much so the process of healing did not take place until my late 30yrs. Am 38 now, get the picture. I share this to add to IC comments and confirm they are valid points and many who have not had there lives defiled by the hands of these kinds of perverted people. Can quick to say why not tell, why keep going, why , why, why. Well believe me we ask ourselves those same questions. We even ask God! It’s deeper then one knows if they have not been affect by this. Nevertheless those who protect them once they have been exposed(no matter the length of time) is held accountable as well. The bottom line is they MUST be called out, removed, and prosecuted PERIOD!

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