What has always been most interesting, is that someone who claims a title of authority can commit all sorts of abuses and they always seem to have people who never realize the evil that is being committed. And even when those people are presented with the evidence, they either totally deny it or claim we must just simply “forgive” the evil doer. WELL THAT’S NOT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS WHEN THE ABUSER IS IN A POSITION OF CHURCH LEADERSHIP!
1 Timothy 5:19-21 (New King James Version)
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Now it’s a given, that one person’s word against another is almost a stalemate in any case. If someone says “your dog bit me” and you have no evidence proving this, you’re not going to automatically believe your dog bit them. At the same time, you’re not going to ignore being part of an investigation to find out the truth if you are an honest person. I’m not trying to lower a human to the level of an animal, but just offering an example. Although humans who are guilty of sex crimes are animals in a sense. If someone says, your boss lied to make the company rich, would you ignore them if they desired to offer you further proof? You might not initially believe the words they say, but you probably would not run from seeing the evidence, given it relates to you. If your boss were busted the company and your job might be impacted. You need to know the truth and possibly get another job.
With dirty preachers, it seems when an accusation is leveled, the automatic response is more than to not believe the accusation, but to treat all accusers as liars. Notice, even when Gerald Griffith was found guilty there were people who attacked me for calling him out. Surprisingly, although some people said I was wrong in my take on it, nobody said a word to me after he got sentenced to 15 years in prison, but that’s probably because I noted there are probably still people who adore that pimp out there. If there is an accuser against a pastor, it does not mean the accuser is a liar. While you don’t have to receive their claim as truth, you do have to check the claim for some level of validity. We all know law enforcement can capture sexual predators if they know who to go after. And checking a claim is not to “receive” it wholly. No more than if you check if your dog bit someone or your boss could be a criminal.
With these pulpit pimps, there are usually more than one accuser. Griffith had at least 5. And rats like Earl Paulk have several, although Paulk has not yet been convicted of anything, he certainly has far more accusers than the standard noted in 1 Timothy 5:19-21! The list of accusers for Earl Paulk includes his own granddaughter.
A brother named Ernest who reads this blog, had an interesting day reading the Louisiana Weekly recently. Here is one of the articles he sent to me.
Black churches protect predators while neglecting victims
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Most of those cases had multiple accusers, but one case (Thompson) featured one accuser. Should the church have ignored her because she is a lone accuser? Simply investigating her claims easily proves via DNA testing what has been going on. Even in Thompson’s case there were rumors. How many “rumors” need there be before someone is investigated? It should not be these female victims who are first to go to law enforcement! Often they seek help within the church first and are ignored. Or nobody takes them to get help. Nobody takes them to experts in law enforcement who could investigate, for what? Certainly not because there is only one accuser, but because of idolatry! Because even the men with a mountain of accusers still get support. It is because people don’t put God above men. They put men in place of God. If they put God first they’d desire to ensure the man was keeping God’s law.
The article tries to imply that issues are being ignored in Black and protestant churches. Well they were being ignored with Catholics until it got enough media attention and many of the victims had to recount abuse from tens of years ago. Not to mention the Catholic church simply moving abusers around to try and avoid the issue, instead of calling in law enforcement. This is an issue in abuse of authority and people mistaking men for the Lord.
No these are NOT matters that can easily be fully investigated and tried within the church. Your church leaders are not experts in DNA and your church’s building does not have a prison underneath. So they are issues that local law enforcement should be involved with. We’re not talking about a pastor caught drinking excessively at a night club, we’re talking about felonies. Yes abusing a child or innocent woman is worse!
Romans 13:1-2 (New King James Version)
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Our system of laws compels us to notify law enforcement of criminal activity. This should be done without partiality when an accusation of abuse is made. And once it gets beyond 1 accuser, it’s time for church members to stop trying disbelieve the accusations. Even if one accuser, they should not be deemed a liar and allow an investigation to take its course.
Do you not think that Matthew 25:31-46 does not also include the woman who was sexually abused and comes to you for help? Consider the parable of the Good Samaritan. Even if one accuser, you should do what you can to help them and ensure the safety of others by seeking an investigation.
Also consider, that 1 accuser plus DNA or other evidence makes for more than 1 witness.
And finally, I must say this, because it needs to be said. Too often the wives of these pimps of all stripes know what their husbands are up to and say nothing. I knew a girl in high school who was being abused by her preacher father. I didn’t really know the girl well and she was really stand offish. When I said to others that we need to tell somebody, when someone told me about the abuse, the person who told me said “no we should not do it”… And not knowing the girl well I foolishly went along with the suggestion to stay quiet. I didn’t want to go telling of someone I hardly knew alone. I was also told that the pastor’s wife knew what was going on. I can say to myself that I was a child at the time, to keep from feeling like a complete moron for not saying something to adults, but it seems many adults know about these things and respond like children by staying silent. Of course I wish I had said something now and I wish I knew who she or her father was today, but I didn’t even know who her father was back when we were kids, although I was told he was sort of known in parts of Baltimore. Adults should not be acting like children and saying “we heard rumors”, you’d do more than write it off if it was your own child. You’d know who to call then! And you know they’ll take an anonymous tip.
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August 10th, 2007 at 10:44 am
I can speak on one who image of a so call Man of God was distorted by the perverted act of molestation from a Pastor at the age of 13. For about 2yrs. I would take up the whole site expressing the affect that had on my life. I’ll just say it caused a tremendous amount of damage! So much so the process of healing did not take place until my late 30yrs. Am 38 now, get the picture. I share this to add to IC comments and confirm they are valid points and many who have not had there lives defiled by the hands of these kinds of perverted people. Can quick to say why not tell, why keep going, why , why, why. Well believe me we ask ourselves those same questions. We even ask God! It’s deeper then one knows if they have not been affect by this. Nevertheless those who protect them once they have been exposed(no matter the length of time) is held accountable as well. The bottom line is they MUST be called out, removed, and prosecuted PERIOD!
August 10th, 2007 at 11:03 am
A few years ago, I used to serve as a co-moderator on the now defunct COGIC Forums.
When a poster brought up the question about just how does COGIC handle sexual predators within the pastoral ranks, and we started discussing it the powers that be (someone told me that GE Patterson had been told about it), pressured the site owner to shut it down.
I see they still have a serious problem with this and still there is no public acknowledgement to the victims or even that the problem exists.
For further reference see my article Living in an immoral church
August 10th, 2007 at 11:33 am
We had our own similar story here in Knoxville this past year. Another COGIC preacher, another “Oh, let’s just let it slide and keep him in the pulpit.” Story here.
Speaking of COGIC, I got a question about GE Patterson. I used to watch him on TV, and the few times I saw him he seemed OK. What can you tell me about his doctrine, etc.?
August 10th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
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August 10th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
4Pointer, of course you know GE is dead now. But as far as I know his theology was sound. I never heard him say or talk some of the more foolish ideology currently being espoused by some clergy. To me he was real “old school” theologian and I did appreciate that about him. Im sure thats what endeared him to the many thousands who heard him weekly. Im not saying he didn’t have faults, but theologically I would give him an A.
Also I am shocked at the story you linked. Note: there are many more. I think there needs to be an internal outcry within COGIC (the church of my birth) for reform and accountability regarding these things. Im sick of this lets just pray and let the Lord handle it mentality. Meanwhile the sexual wolves and immoral prophets of the flesh seek new victims. Whew!
August 10th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
I have to agree that for most of what I saw of him, GE Patterson’s preached messages were for the most part theologically sound.
There were issues with him though. I don’t mind listing them because they should be known:
1) The man had a building with his own name on the street. The building he pastored in is at 369 G.E. Patterson Avenue. And that street name was there WAY BEFORE he died. I think the man was a little too full of himself to allow that.
2) Allowing totally improper use of what they call Tongues.
3) The tithe enforcement. See Reconsidering the Tithe.
4) While he did more than others to try and avoid it, he had linkage to pimps and Oneness heretics like Noel Jones.
5) Given #4 above, he would never strongly speak against the pimps and name them.
Honestly, I have no problem saying GE Patterson was the best man of the entire COGIC lot and no person within COGIC will deny that. But there were issues and I don’t consider them petty in nature. I guess trying to cover scandal should be #6 on my list above…
I will add, I am glad COGIC takes a strong stand against homosexual behavior and continues to do so.
August 10th, 2007 at 8:17 pm
I had read about his passing.
I heard him back when I was a relatively new Christian, so I might not have given much thought to some things he said. Thanks for the info!