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August 3, 2007

Pulpit Pimp Frederick K.C. Price Sues ABC, Because He Only Has 1 Mansion and 2 Bentleys.

by @ 1:45 am. Filed under Nuts on Parade

Practitioner of the false prosperity doctrine Frederick K.C. Price is all upset. Apparently a video clip of him bragging about 7 cars, a yacht and more is not him talking about his possessions, but just a part of one of his twisted messages. Where basically he was saying a person with all that is not doing well if they have problems at home like their wife engaging in adultery. Given his sermons are loaded with Christless Christianity, he never mentions Jesus in his explanation of the statements, but watch for yourself below.



The Truth about the Fred Price 20/20 Story
And plenty of fluff from the fans of Pulpit Pimp Fred Price.
Despite the apologies, Price still wants to sue!

So if the guy with the 7 cars and all had a happy wife and kids not on dope, would it all be good? That’s what Price implies in what is called “the truth”. The truth is that the material possessions do not matter at all, period. What matters is having faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, who told us to store up riches in Heaven, not earth.

Luke 12:29-34 (New King James Version)

29) ?And do not seek what you should eat or what you should drink, nor have an anxious mind.

30) For all these things the nations of the world seek after, and your Father knows that you need these things.

31) But seek the kingdom of God, and all these things shall be added to you.

32) ?Do not fear, little flock, for it is your Father?s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

33) Sell what you have and give alms; provide yourselves money bags which do not grow old, a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches nor moth destroys.

34) For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Notice Jesus told His disciples to forsake earthly things. The things He said would be added were of an eternal nature. Money bags that never grow old, a treasure in Heaven. While on earth, here is how the apostles lived:

1 Corinthians 4:11 (New King James Version)

11) To the present hour we both hunger and thirst, and we are poorly clothed, and beaten, and homeless.

Now we can’t say it’s some new revelation that all Christians are supposed to be rich, when the apostles took the words pulpit pimps like Price twist with a totally different meaning. Their earthly lives prove Christianity is NOT about earthly prosperity.

While the apostles did not tell everyone to sell all they have in every case and even Jesus Christ didn’t tell everyone he met to sell all their possessions, they certainly never told anyone faith is about earthly gain. The idea is to focus on Heavenly rewards and not worry about earthly wealth.

Anyway, Price is all angry about the ABC story and responding like any industry mogul would, with a lawsuit, because Price represents the Religious Industry.

Preacher sues ’20/20,’ alleging defamation LA Times – 7/25/2007

The Rev. Frederick K.C. Price may have two Bentleys, but a spokesman for his 22,000-member church says his Palos Verdes house doesn’t boast 25 rooms and he definitely doesn’t own a helicopter. A lawsuit Price filed Tuesday claims that ABC’s “20/20″ defamed him when it suggested otherwise, portraying him as a “hypocrite and thief” who financed an extravagant lifestyle with church funds.

Price, founder of the Crenshaw Christian Center, was featured in a “20/20″ segment about well-heeled televangelists titled “Enough!” that the suit says “devastated, embarrassed and greatly humiliated” the 75-year-old. The suit also names Walt Disney Co., which owns ABC, and “20/20″ co-anchor John Stossel.

Price owns the Palos Verdes mansion that appeared in the “20/20″ segment, as well as two Bentleys, but not a helicopter, a yacht or a private jet, a spokesman for the church said. Price bought the house in 1989, and one of the Bentleys was a gift from two parishioners, the spokesman said.

Like I said, Pimps love Bentley. And any time they can have somebody give them one as a “gift” they really like that, because unlike the apostles that sold their possessions, a pulpit pimp retains the Bentley. Never mind selling that for the sake of the poor and being modest with the cars they drive.

How much does Fred Price make? They won’t tell!

The suit says Price’s salary is “commensurate with his duties,” and the spokesman declined to disclose it.

Also from the article:


The suit, filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court, seeks unspecified damages and accuses ABC of breaching “fundamental journalist guidelines” and acting “in reckless disregard” for the truth.

ABC spokesman Jeffrey Schneider said he couldn’t comment on the suit but noted that the network had run two retractions, one on “Good Morning America” and the other on “20/20.” ABC also posted a retraction on its website.

“We did make a full retraction and apology on the air and certainly regretted the error and made that very clear to Rev. Price,” Schneider said.

In the retraction, Stossel said “20/20″ had thought Price was talking about himself in the sermon. “We used his quote out of context, and for that we apologize to Dr. Price and to the Crenshaw Christian Center and to you if we misled you,” Stossel said.

Price’s lawyer, Anthony Glassman, said the retraction was insufficient.

“He was wrongly and falsely portrayed,” Glassman said.

OK, so ABC made several apologies in various forms. Still not good enough. Still Price wants to take them to court. Never mind true Christian love, Fred Price is going to court! Not exactly showing an example of the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Matthew 5:44-45 (New King James Version)

44) But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,

45) that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

And if you want to see more of Price showing a lack of forgiveness, just watch him rant for slave reparations.


update 8/17/2007 11:44AM:
Price might not have a helicopter, but it looks like he does have a PRIVATE JET!!! Oh, it’s the “church” jet, but he’s the one flying in it.



11 Responses to “Pulpit Pimp Frederick K.C. Price Sues ABC, Because He Only Has 1 Mansion and 2 Bentleys.”

  1. art123 Says:

    You have organizations like the Trinity Foundation, the IRS, and the media eying these so-called ministries. I believe that if Price sue,he could be opening up a can of worms to hang himself. I have watched his ministry on Christian tv and the man brags a lot about his possessions.

  2. IndependentConservative Says:

    The ABCNews 20/20 story was related to MinistryWatch.org. That organization has not received a response from Ever Increasing Faith / Fred Price, when financial information was requested. Which is why MinistryWatch gives them a transparency grade of “F”, the LOWEST SCORE YOU CAN GET FOR TRANSPARENCY. Price is not being transparent at all about the money when it comes to dealing with ministry watchdog group MinistryWatch. That video claims members are given financial data, but it seems when a 3rd party with an army of accountants wants to dig their books for facts they (MinistryWatch) get the cold shoulder.

    I’ve been places where you get a financial report and it’s not the full picture of what’s going on. So I don’t buy those claims in the video until he opens the books up MORE. To the public. That’s how we learned more of what the Whites are up to.

    Also, I’ve seen pimps sort of “rent” an overseas charity, to front like it’s theirs. So until further investigation, I’m skeptical of Price’s claims to have done overseas charity too.

  3. art123 Says:

    Though true about slave reparations, not getting that forty acres and a mule promised to blacks,I believe Price is using racism so that American christians, especially African-American ones can sympathize or empathize for the mess he’s in. You know, the persecution syndrome. Also, he doesn’t want to lose his followers and contributions. Every pimp shine for a while and then they fall. Remember the scandals of the 80′s with the Bakkers and Jimmy Swaggert.

  4. IndependentConservative Says:

    Not to get too far into a side-bar, but the “reparations” matter is not as clear cut as the “40 + a mule” story. That “40 + a mule” was simply one person’s proposal, I forget what state, but it was never something that was generally accepted as a fix. What was done and many don’t talk about, is that Blacks in various areas really were given housing and land and those individual areas handled much of that. Remember, America was not a giant federal government then and states did way more. Many Blacks even then, such as Frederick Douglass, not only flat out was against reparations, he was even against much of the general charity that was being given to Blacks. (See his speech “What a Black Man wants”.) Because he knew Blacks will need to work for themselves and the handouts don’t encourage that.

    The real former slaves were not in mass for reparations and for many freedom was enough. Once free, Blacks had a choice to do whatever they wished of their own free will. Many in my own family left for Canada. My immediate family line stayed. No elder in my family wants reparations and has never sought such. They worked for themselves and those who stayed in America remained because they knew they could do for themselves and they did.

    So 40 + a mule was never actually “promised” it was just a proposal that was being floated and there were A WHOLE LOT of various proposals, some were done. There was very much an effort to help Blacks that goes unspoken. The federal government even kept troops in the South for a short time after the Civil War in “peace keeping” mode. Although they should have stayed much longer.

    There were MANY efforts just to end slavery in the first place and MANY to help Black afterwards. All that goes very unspoken. Unlike some other cases, America wared with its self to help bring slavery to an end. Nobody wared on behalf of those Asians in camps. Americans payed with their lives. While Lincoln did not want to make slavery the major issue, it always was a MAJOR concern for the South and the reason MANY Southern states left the Union the moment Abe Lincoln was elected.

    This nation paid reparations in blood to end the horrors of slavery. Racism after that, in say Jim Crow, there is a legal system for any living Black that wants to sue for some money, but nobody is making a case for Jim Crow reparations and I don’t know of Black elders who desire to make a case of it.

    The real bottom line, is that Price claims to be a Christian and so he’s got to let past evils go. (What scripture supports the garbage he was spewing? Scriptures about helping others apply to saints, not the government.) If Price feels it all should not be let go and fully forgiven, than I should hate every pulpit pimp that ever abused my mind and my wallet and should sue them for some form of compensation. But I forgive them and let it go. I just want to help others get away from them now.

  5. DL Foster Says:

    Thats strange this falling over yourself gushing apology from John Stossel and ABC. When they mocked and lied about former homosexuals (called us “myths”), Stossel blew objections. But thats the way the liberal media behaves with blacks and whites. Black pimps get a pass and a “ohmigosh we are sooooooo sorry we didnt get our facts straight line”.

    But Price could be playing Clintonesque word semantics. He says that he doesnt boast 25 rooms… Okay but thats doesnt mean your house doesnt have 25 rooms. Im sure if they went through some video carefully that would prove to be a lie.
    (2) He says he definitely doesn’t own a helicopter. But does someone else owns it and Price uses it.

    Its real hard to believe these pimpsters when all they crow about is their possessions. I mean that’s what gets them inducted into the Pimps hall of fame.

  6. Praiser4Life Says:

    IC, I guess Dr. Price has never read the scripture you sited (Matt. 5:44-45). What about the scripture that says “Don’t render evil for evil”? Why are his members acting so surprised at what ABC said? They are a news magazine for crying out loud. What else do you expect from the world. It’s not the first time someone has talked about Fred Price. There are MANY websites that talk about his accumalation of wealth and his teachings. So why isn’t he suing them as well? This whole issue is about one thing, as they said in the video, and that is to protect the “reputation of Dr. Price”. DISGUSTING!!

  7. SoliDeoGloriaFella Says:

    IC,

    I read the filing documents that shows what Price is suing for, and it seems that Price is suing for damages in and revolving around slander.

    Jesus is the most slandered man of all-time, and until He comes back, He will continue to be the most ill treated man to ever walk this earth. Who else is still being slandered 2000+ years after their death????

    Paul was slandered by many, many false teachers while proclaiming the gospel of Jesus. Now Fred Price is suing a secular news organization for slandering his name???? Jesus should have sued everyone!!! Paul should have been in court many many times suing false teachers for slander, not to mention the Jews and pagans!!!

    How much money will restore a slandered Christians name, I guess we will find out. Price is suing for an un-disclosed amount of $$$. Im assuming the Michael Jackson type of un-disclosed amount of $$$.

    Im all for clearing your name of any slander, but should a Pastor sue for money in the process??? After all, the devil slanders Christ, the Bible, and Christians. If he wants an apology then he should take the apology they have given. But to take $$$ in the process is a little opportunistic.

    By suing for $$$$$$$ it looks like he is who 20/20 made him out to be.

  8. IndependentConservative Says:

    Well it all only continues to prove that Fred Price is not honestly a follower of Christ and very much a false teacher.

    Price, like other false teachers, claims Jesus suffered in hell.

    He has written an entire book where he lies about tithing. The truth about that bad teaching is here. And Price uses the tithing was approximately 430 years before the Law of Moses was set down claim on his site. Notice he never advocates animal sacrifices, which also were before the law of Moses. He does not promote the sabbath as Friday sun down till Saturday sun down and a day for total rest and reverence to the Lord, that was before the law too. That was even before Abraham. He’s cherry picking a twisted use of the old covenant for what will line his pockets! Not to mention his abuse of what the tithe actually was and how the tithe was used. Because today’s contrived system of collection called “tithing” is not a “tithe”. See what a guy who did his PhD work on tithing has to say about it.

    And Price calls himself “doctor”, it’s just an honorary degree from Oral Roberts University. (One pimp honoring another.) The most the man ever earned of his own effort in study is an AA degree.

    He’s a lying pimp. That’s why he does not actually attempt to follow scripture. His love of money exposes him, as Paul noted when inspired by God to write 2 Timothy 3:1-9.

  9. art123 Says:

    I agree with solideoGloriaFella that when Price decided to sue the media, he is playing right into their hands. His true colors is being revealed as the hypocrite and thief he is. He refuse to accept the apology and let sleeping dogs lie. Do you know how many people should sue Price and other false prophets for our tithes and offerings and not reaping the rewards that they’re reaping. But the prophecy must be fulfilled. We must move on and let God handle His business for He’s angry with the wicked everyday. Amen.

  10. IndependentConservative Says:

    Amen!

  11. healtheland Says:

    I stopped following Fred Price when I heard that he was preaching that Jesus Christ was born again when he was baptized.

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