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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/07/03/mlk_christian/comment-page-1/#comment-9755</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SG, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/06/10/ic_the_uncle_tom/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I was deemed an Uncle Tom a long time ago&lt;/a&gt; :D .  &lt;em&gt;(And I worked hard to win that award I might add :) .)&lt;/em&gt;

And a blog devoted to &quot;Black&quot; matters, that does not feel I&#039;m any kind of &quot;sellout&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://bookerrising.blogspot.com/2008/04/do-not-be-conformed-to-this-world.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;is upset I stand on Jesus as the ONLY means for salvation.&lt;/a&gt;

So don&#039;t go thinking I can walk into a room presenting my case and masses of folks concerned about &quot;Blackness&quot; consider it a scholarly statement ;) .  Given many put race above faith, it&#039;s pretty much sacrilegious to say what I say in most circles, regardless of the race of the person saying it.

So I just say I often say what &lt;em&gt;&quot;needs to be said&quot;&lt;/em&gt; put the slogan at the top of a blog and say it here :D .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SG, <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/06/10/ic_the_uncle_tom/" rel="nofollow">I was deemed an Uncle Tom a long time ago</a> <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  .  <em>(And I worked hard to win that award I might add <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .)</em></p>
<p>And a blog devoted to &#8220;Black&#8221; matters, that does not feel I&#8217;m any kind of &#8220;sellout&#8221; <a href="http://bookerrising.blogspot.com/2008/04/do-not-be-conformed-to-this-world.html" rel="nofollow">is upset I stand on Jesus as the ONLY means for salvation.</a></p>
<p>So don&#8217;t go thinking I can walk into a room presenting my case and masses of folks concerned about &#8220;Blackness&#8221; consider it a scholarly statement <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  .  Given many put race above faith, it&#8217;s pretty much sacrilegious to say what I say in most circles, regardless of the race of the person saying it.</p>
<p>So I just say I often say what <em>&#8220;needs to be said&#8221;</em> put the slogan at the top of a blog and say it here <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
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		<title>By: SteelGator</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/07/03/mlk_christian/comment-page-1/#comment-9753</link>
		<dc:creator>SteelGator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my goodness.....I can not believe this came up again.  Great timing.  I got called a racist the other night because I raised the question that MLK,Jr was not a Christian.  I am glad I got some black Christian brothers and sisters that agree.  If the white man says it, we are racist....It a black person says it, you are making a unique point in a discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my goodness&#8230;..I can not believe this came up again.  Great timing.  I got called a racist the other night because I raised the question that MLK,Jr was not a Christian.  I am glad I got some black Christian brothers and sisters that agree.  If the white man says it, we are racist&#8230;.It a black person says it, you are making a unique point in a discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/07/03/mlk_christian/comment-page-1/#comment-9752</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you review the &quot;Mountaintop&quot; speech that King gave, the very last speech he gave, the night before he was shot.  You&#039;ll see it&#039;s very much a speech of Universalism.  He even plays up Greek philosophers, Mt. Olympus and so on.  It&#039;s not a speech really rooted on Jesus Christ being the ONLY means of hope and salvation.  Even his &quot;I have a dream&quot; speech asserts people who are of theological views that deny Christ (and of varied cults) will be singing &quot;free at last&quot; and he makes no mention of them accepting Christ.  It is clear although I didn&#039;t want to just flat out assert it before, but it&#039;s clear he was not a Christian, but very much into Universalism and all his statements and legacy prove that out.  That is why he was into some of the Hindu practices of Gandhi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you review the &#8220;Mountaintop&#8221; speech that King gave, the very last speech he gave, the night before he was shot.  You&#8217;ll see it&#8217;s very much a speech of Universalism.  He even plays up Greek philosophers, Mt. Olympus and so on.  It&#8217;s not a speech really rooted on Jesus Christ being the ONLY means of hope and salvation.  Even his &#8220;I have a dream&#8221; speech asserts people who are of theological views that deny Christ (and of varied cults) will be singing &#8220;free at last&#8221; and he makes no mention of them accepting Christ.  It is clear although I didn&#8217;t want to just flat out assert it before, but it&#8217;s clear he was not a Christian, but very much into Universalism and all his statements and legacy prove that out.  That is why he was into some of the Hindu practices of Gandhi.</p>
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		<title>By: LaVrai.COM</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/07/03/mlk_christian/comment-page-1/#comment-9748</link>
		<dc:creator>LaVrai.COM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the founding fathers had slaves! ...But MLK Jr. had to be a full-fledged man of GOD (whatever that means). Just listen to how he spoke and the things he said... 

--That was just my knee-jerk reaction.

It&#039;s a very good question, and even if he did not die a Christian, I am still glad GOD used him to help make this country a better place for black folk. 

But I don&#039;t know... I feel like one could not have accomplished what he had done unless he was somehow called to make the sacrifice. But, yes, that thought is based on my feelings...not on any proof I&#039;ve actually examined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the founding fathers had slaves! &#8230;But MLK Jr. had to be a full-fledged man of GOD (whatever that means). Just listen to how he spoke and the things he said&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8211;That was just my knee-jerk reaction.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a very good question, and even if he did not die a Christian, I am still glad GOD used him to help make this country a better place for black folk. </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know&#8230; I feel like one could not have accomplished what he had done unless he was somehow called to make the sacrifice. But, yes, that thought is based on my feelings&#8230;not on any proof I&#8217;ve actually examined.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/07/03/mlk_christian/comment-page-1/#comment-6277</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen it, but there&#039;s a lot I take issue with at that site. Including the fact they have works with much of the same words but different people claim to be the author.  For example, the page you referenced contains many of the same words as this other page on their site:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/mlk_jr-exposed.htm
But that page claims a different author.  It&#039;s as if they made up a page where the author is claimed to be a Black woman and another where someone else takes credit.  Makes me think it&#039;s all the same guy behind it.  And some of the additional information on the page I linked above I can&#039;t confirm via any other source.  Which makes me feel very suspect about them, on top of other issues I have with that site.  I don&#039;t have time to get into it all now, nor do I care to initiate a war of words with them.


So I don&#039;t reference them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen it, but there&#8217;s a lot I take issue with at that site. Including the fact they have works with much of the same words but different people claim to be the author.  For example, the page you referenced contains many of the same words as this other page on their site:<br />
<a href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/mlk_jr-exposed.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/mlk_jr-exposed.htm</a><br />
But that page claims a different author.  It&#8217;s as if they made up a page where the author is claimed to be a Black woman and another where someone else takes credit.  Makes me think it&#8217;s all the same guy behind it.  And some of the additional information on the page I linked above I can&#8217;t confirm via any other source.  Which makes me feel very suspect about them, on top of other issues I have with that site.  I don&#8217;t have time to get into it all now, nor do I care to initiate a war of words with them.</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t reference them.</p>
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		<title>By: stacey</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/07/03/mlk_christian/comment-page-1/#comment-6274</link>
		<dc:creator>stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a site that has a pretty good article written about this subject, not sure if you have seen it.  Here is the link: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/king_jr-imposter.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a site that has a pretty good article written about this subject, not sure if you have seen it.  Here is the link: <a href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/king_jr-imposter.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/king_jr-imposter.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: art123</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/07/03/mlk_christian/comment-page-1/#comment-5436</link>
		<dc:creator>art123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To IC

Communism seems to be one red silent, but powerful party which influenced the Civil Rights Movement and the Black Panther Party.I have also learned, just a while back, it influenced labor unions.I am starting to wonder if black social changes such as desegregation a result of communist ties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To IC</p>
<p>Communism seems to be one red silent, but powerful party which influenced the Civil Rights Movement and the Black Panther Party.I have also learned, just a while back, it influenced labor unions.I am starting to wonder if black social changes such as desegregation a result of communist ties.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 00:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so nothing is being concealed, here&#039;s the list of undesirables that many would avoid being close with, but all had &lt;b&gt;close&lt;/b&gt; ties with Martin Luther King Junior.  Close as in they were people he corresponded with and considered to be his friends.:
&lt;strong&gt;- Pro Communists&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;- Pro Abortionists&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;(Even when many were against it, MLK, Jr. was very much in favor of Blacks using birth control.  He never spoke on the abortion, because it was not a hot political issue during his time, but he was good friends with Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger.  She even gave him an award, that CS King accepted on his behalf and gave a speech lauding Sanger&#039;s work.)&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;- Pro Homosexuals&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;(Adam Clayton Powell once threatened to expose that MLK, Jr. had a gay relationship with Bayard Rustin.  Rustin was openly gay, one of King&#039;s closets advisors and worked alone with King often.  No other minister would touch Rustin with a 100 foot pole because all knew he was flaming, but King took him in and made him part of his team.  Rustin was not at all a Christian either, didn&#039;t try to pretend to be one.)&lt;/em&gt;

So there you have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so nothing is being concealed, here&#8217;s the list of undesirables that many would avoid being close with, but all had <b>close</b> ties with Martin Luther King Junior.  Close as in they were people he corresponded with and considered to be his friends.:<br />
<strong>- Pro Communists</strong><br />
<strong>- Pro Abortionists</strong> <em>(Even when many were against it, MLK, Jr. was very much in favor of Blacks using birth control.  He never spoke on the abortion, because it was not a hot political issue during his time, but he was good friends with Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger.  She even gave him an award, that CS King accepted on his behalf and gave a speech lauding Sanger&#8217;s work.)</em><br />
<strong>- Pro Homosexuals</strong> <em>(Adam Clayton Powell once threatened to expose that MLK, Jr. had a gay relationship with Bayard Rustin.  Rustin was openly gay, one of King&#8217;s closets advisors and worked alone with King often.  No other minister would touch Rustin with a 100 foot pole because all knew he was flaming, but King took him in and made him part of his team.  Rustin was not at all a Christian either, didn&#8217;t try to pretend to be one.)</em></p>
<p>So there you have it.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art123, that site (Martinlutherking. org) is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; to be trusted AT ALL.  Which is why I&#039;ve edited your comment for it not to be a functioning hyperlink.  If you saw the bottom of that page it mentions

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hosted by Stormfront&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Stormfront is a 100% White Supremest group.  You can read about them on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The Stormfront White Nationalist Community is a white pride Internet forum and has the motto &quot;White Pride World Wide&quot;. The site owner refers to Stormfront strictly as a white nationalist website. Critics and the media often describe it as a Neo-Nazi organization and accuse it of promoting racism and hate speech and of serving as a forum for the advocacy of violence.
...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don&#039;t worry that you didn&#039;t know.  I&#039;ve been tracking them for years.  They are &lt;b&gt;VERY crafty&lt;/b&gt; in working to get their hate out to as many people as possible.  They also at times work with friends of theirs in the media to spread their message of pure racial hatred, but this is not the time to get into all of that.

Just the same, MLK, Jr. had communist ties.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._Philip_Randolph&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A. Philip Randolph&lt;/a&gt; and others who were tight with MLK, Jr. and even helped plan the &quot;March on Washington&quot; were big time communists.  Which is why it was always focused on &quot;workers&quot; and &quot;the poor&quot; seeking a government based solution.  The honest goal for some of them was socialism or pure communism is what some wanted.  Some of the top brass in the Civil Rights Movement really were communists and were in some ways played to do the work of America&#039;s enemies (like Russia).  Sadly, America&#039;s own bigotry helped make that possible.  And if you look at groups like the original Black Panther Party (not to be confused with today&#039;s NOI nuts), they were selling Chairman Mao&#039;s Little Red Book!  And even after Huey P. Newton read the book, to actually see in full what it was he was selling, he only grew more into desiring pure communism.  Keep in mind the man was a law student, so nobody can claim he was ignorant and somehow fooled into being a commie.

Yes the old Civil Rights Movement had some very ugly stuff underneath that nobody talks about nearly as much as should be talked about.  Oh, but we know the founding fathers owned slaves, nobody minds bringing that up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art123, that site (Martinlutherking. org) is <b>not</b> to be trusted AT ALL.  Which is why I&#8217;ve edited your comment for it not to be a functioning hyperlink.  If you saw the bottom of that page it mentions</p>
<blockquote><p>Hosted by Stormfront</p></blockquote>
<p>Stormfront is a 100% White Supremest group.  You can read about them on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Stormfront White Nationalist Community is a white pride Internet forum and has the motto &#8220;White Pride World Wide&#8221;. The site owner refers to Stormfront strictly as a white nationalist website. Critics and the media often describe it as a Neo-Nazi organization and accuse it of promoting racism and hate speech and of serving as a forum for the advocacy of violence.<br />
&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry that you didn&#8217;t know.  I&#8217;ve been tracking them for years.  They are <b>VERY crafty</b> in working to get their hate out to as many people as possible.  They also at times work with friends of theirs in the media to spread their message of pure racial hatred, but this is not the time to get into all of that.</p>
<p>Just the same, MLK, Jr. had communist ties.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._Philip_Randolph" rel="nofollow">A. Philip Randolph</a> and others who were tight with MLK, Jr. and even helped plan the &#8220;March on Washington&#8221; were big time communists.  Which is why it was always focused on &#8220;workers&#8221; and &#8220;the poor&#8221; seeking a government based solution.  The honest goal for some of them was socialism or pure communism is what some wanted.  Some of the top brass in the Civil Rights Movement really were communists and were in some ways played to do the work of America&#8217;s enemies (like Russia).  Sadly, America&#8217;s own bigotry helped make that possible.  And if you look at groups like the original Black Panther Party (not to be confused with today&#8217;s NOI nuts), they were selling Chairman Mao&#8217;s Little Red Book!  And even after Huey P. Newton read the book, to actually see in full what it was he was selling, he only grew more into desiring pure communism.  Keep in mind the man was a law student, so nobody can claim he was ignorant and somehow fooled into being a commie.</p>
<p>Yes the old Civil Rights Movement had some very ugly stuff underneath that nobody talks about nearly as much as should be talked about.  Oh, but we know the founding fathers owned slaves, nobody minds bringing that up!</p>
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		<title>By: art123</title>
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		<dc:creator>art123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have also learned that MLK had communist ties and the FBI files are sealed until 2027. See www.martinlutherking. org/the beast.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also learned that MLK had communist ties and the FBI files are sealed until 2027. See <a href="http://www.martinlutherking" rel="nofollow">http://www.martinlutherking</a>. org/the beast.html</p>
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