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June 5, 2007

Democrats Talking About Matters of Faith. Total Comedy! (Video)

by @ 1:19 am. Filed under Nuts on Parade, Video

I captured some of John Edwards and Hillary Clinton on CNN last night answering questions from people of faith. All the people asking questions appeared to be of some denomination of the Christian faith. I decided not to include video of Obama, because Soledad Obrien was fawning over the man and his questions were soft balls at best.

Check out John Edwards. And I’ve added something special to these videos :) .



The Twisted Faith of John Edwards

This man spends hundreds of dollars for haircuts by the way.

John Edwards claims to have been raised a Southern Baptist, but you’d never know it, given his stance on issues. Like creationism, which he does not believe, he favors the theory of evolution. And seeing how he wants to treat gays as if they were married, why did he even say he’s against it? What a joke!

And check out Hillary Rodham Clinton in action.



Hillary Clinton Pandering/Lying to Pro-Life Christians

It’s nothing less than comical to see Hillary Clinton pander to pro-life Christians.

So needless to say, watching Democrats talk about faith in politics was a total joke!



20 Responses to “Democrats Talking About Matters of Faith. Total Comedy! (Video)”

  1. lionelwoods7 Says:

    Brother I was just going to send you something on this. They are playing Christians for fools. They are now jumping on the faith bandwagon, while 4 years ago, no one was.

  2. jesuswasaliberal Says:

    Hasn’t it occurred to you that it is possible to be a democrat AND a Christian? Before you assume that they are just playing Christians for fools, watch the (untampered) video & read the transcripts with an open heart. There are many, many Christians in this country who are Democrats. Many of us are pro-life, pro-family voters, who are also pro-environment, pro-poor, pro-peace, and pro-dialog.

  3. IndependentConservative Says:

    I saw the whole thing and obviously lionelwoods7 caught it too.

    Those candidates really ARE playing you for a fool. You’re even playing yourself for one by trying to lock Jesus into your personal (liberal) political view with your user name here. Jesus is Lord, you are a Liberal. Jesus is not a political ideology and it’s a shame you attempt to make the Son of God your preferred political position. You speak of Him in the past tense as if He’s dead. Well He’s alive and lives in me.

    Jesus never asked me to take money from heathens to give to the poor. He told His own, Christians to give to the poor. I can do that without forcing money from heathens.

  4. jesuswasaliberal Says:

    By implying that Christians can’t be democrats, aren’t you also locking Him into your personal political view? When you mock liberals for daring to speak about their faith, aren’t you also attempting “to make the Son of God your preferred political position”?
    As far as my user name, Jesus
    -told us to care for the poor
    -rocked the established political structure
    -rocked the established religious structure
    -completely changed the world

    Not exactly conservative (in either the political or other uses of the word) acts, were they?

    Understand, I’m not saying that Christians should be liberals and democrats; I think there are sound biblical reasons to be conservative (abortion, gay marriage) on some issues, and liberal on others (the environment, war). What I more object to is your implicit assumptions that Democrats can’t possibly be serious when they speak of religious belief.

  5. IndependentConservative Says:

    By implying that Christians can’t be democrats, aren’t you also locking Him into your personal political view?

    I’m an Independent, I don’t say Christians need to be of any political party. I’ve said before and say again that Jesus is Lord. When you are “LORD” you are above politics.

    When you mock liberals for daring to speak about their faith, aren’t you also attempting “to make the Son of God your preferred political position”?

    Nope. I mock Liberals’ positions on some issues and expose hypocrisy when they assume positions counter to the faith they claim. I never said “Jesus is a Conservative”, but you even in your user name claim he “was” a Liberal. You see Him as a DEAD LIBERAL.

    Jesus is Lord, in His Father and One with him, they and the Holy Spirit are the One True God. It’s God, not a political persuasion.

    I say that “I” am a Conservative, not Jesus. You claim Jesus is a dead Liberal.

    Jesus tells US as in CHRISTIANS WHO FOLLOW HIM to care for the poor. You want to tax a rich Muslim and other heathens and take their money in proxy for the job Jesus told you to do.

    Jesus had no concern for the political structure other than to abide by the rules of man while here in flesh, to set an example and instructed us to do the same. He’s Lord remember, the LIVING LORD, so he’s above man and man’s politics.

    Jesus did rock the religious structure, BECAUSE HE IS THE FOUNDATION OF ANY TRUE RELIGIOUS STRUCTURE.

    The world was created through Jesus. He provided a means that we might access eternal life.

    Hebrews 1:2

    has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;

    He is Lord, I am Conservative, you are Liberal. You and I disagree on what political constructs best serve this nation.

    He is not exactly Liberal, you are. He is not exactly Conservative, I am. He is exactly Lord. And He is ALIVE.

    There are sound Biblical reasons to stand for Christ. But you’ve been played on the environment and abortion kills far more lives than any war.

    John Edwards, Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama are not serious when they speak of religious belief. Notice that each of them is fairly rich in their own right, but desires to take money from someone else to aid the poor.

    John Edwards has been exposed possibly worst of all!


    Edwards is running a preposterous campaign. He lives like a sultan in a 30,000 foot North Carolina house. Look at that! Yet he decries economic unfairness in America. He runs around telling Americans the system is rigged, while paying $400 for a haircut. This guy is a one-man sitcom.

    Now across the street from his palatial mansion is a trailer park where working class Americans live. They are neighbors of John Edwards. Some like him. Most don’t.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He don’t know — he really doesn’t know what two Americas are.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everybody here is just normal income people. You know, just live day-to-day. And I don’t think he knows anything about us.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you have in common with John Edwards?

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can’t imagine anything. He don’t know anything about the things I know about.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don’t know if he knows how to help poor people or lower class people. He doesn’t know them. He doesn’t — you got to know something about something before you can help the problem. He doesn’t know anything about it.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When he talks about the two Americas, what do you think he means when he’s talking about that?

    UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don’t know. He says many different things. I just don’t pay any attention to what he says any more.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O’REILLY: We couldn’t find anybody in the trailer park to say anything nice about John Edwards.

    CNN promises a similar forum with Republican candidates. If possible, I’ll expose them too. As I continually do here.

    This is probably your first time here. You need to read a little more and learn how things work here.

  6. IndependentConservative Says:

    The lunacy of attempting to paint the Lord Jesus Christ as a dead Liberal started with fruit cake Civil Rights Industry shakedown king Jesse Jackson. My friend La Shawn Barber rightfully shot the insanity down in rightous flames back then.

  7. Eric Says:

    wasaliberal, I read you comments and as a former democrat I would like to take a few moments to respond.

    “Hasn’t it occurred to you that it is possible to be a democrat AND a Christian?”

    It is possible, but it usually means that a person isn’t too serious, educated, or enthusiastic about being a good Christian or a good democrat. The democrat party supports the homosexual agenda, abortion, removing God from all areas of public life. IMO, a good Christian wouldn’t support any of the above

    “Before you assume that they are just playing Christians for fools, watch the (untampered) video & read the transcripts with an open heart.”

    Spoken like a true liberal. As a Christian, I look at things through faith. IMO, faith is the function of my entire God given body and soul. IMO, when the mind, body, and soul are in disagreement it usually means that the enemy is trying to deceive. Hillary Clinton and John Edwards rate very high on my deception meter.

    “There are many, many Christians in this country who are Democrats.”

    I agree, I too was once a lost soul. I once was blind, but now I see.

    “Many of us are pro-life, pro-family voters,”

    If so, then why are “many of us” still democrats? Is party identification more important that what you claim to believe as a Christian? As for me, these are two of the main issues that prompted me to really evaluate my political decisions. I began to grow in faith and political awareness and realized that there is no way that I could support the Dem party. God is the creator of life and the family, and a responsible Christian shouldn’t support the destruction of either one by voting for a Dem.

    “who are also pro-environment, pro-poor, pro-peace, and pro-dialog.”

    Here is what my faith leads me to believe. I am “pro-environment” in the sense that I am a good steward of what God has created. I do not worship in the church of global warming because only God has the power to create and destroy planets. I am not “pro-poor” because God gives almost everyone the intelligence to learn how not to be poor. Many people who claim to be “pro-poor” are so to exploit them for personal gain. I am “pro-peace” because I do not want to harm others, but I will protect that which has been entrusted to me even if doing so cause the loss of human life (including my own). I am “pro-dialog,” and do not subscribe to liberal shout down techniques, or fairness doctrines which tools of the enemy used to silence the voice of truth. God is the origin of the free will of man, and dialog presents the opportunity to share ones faith in God with others.

    FWIW, these are some of the reason that I could never be a Democrat. I have made mistakes in the past and have learned from them. Maybe you are open to learning as well. The choice is yours. You are free to believe as you wish, but please do not claim that “Jesus was a liberal” among those of us who know who Jesus for ourselves.

  8. gottago Says:

    I honestly didn’t catch the dems debate, but certainly caught the one tonite with the repubs in N.H.

    the (1) thing that I keep noticing is that there’s not alot of difference in the GOP candidates with the exception of Ron Paul, or maybe Tancredo. Both of them are hated by the GOP party for the most part. But, tonite….. Paul was being asked more questions and was more involved in the debates. The fact that he was the (only) candidate to even mention running the government in accordance with the constitution speaks volumes for how he differs from the others. he is refreshing to say the least. I just wish he would really come out with “guns ablazin” after the President and most of the gutless wonders that occupy the capitol building. Frankly, looking at the debates from both parties is like going to an old style AMWAY pep rally. they all look the same and talk the same……..with the exception of PAUL & TANCREDO. Overall, all the debates so far, have been big snoozers. the moderators need to get off the same old questions and get into the meat of things.

  9. jesuswasaliberal Says:

    You have completely missed my point.

    My point is that Christians’ must not fall into the trap of saying, “if you vote for the other party, you’re not a real Christian.” (which is what you’re original post sure sounded like to me). We’re all brothers & sisters in Christ FIRST AND FOREMOST, and Americans a distant second, Democrats or Republicans third. For you to assume that, just because someone is a Democrat, they have no faith, well, Jesus said some things about judging others.

    Finally, my choice of jesusWASaliberal was NOT intended to imply I think He’s dead. I do not. He lives, and I live in Him. It was merely a nod to the fact that when he took human flesh was in the past. Please don’t read any more into it than that.

  10. IndependentConservative Says:

    Let’s stop beating around the bush and cut to the chase here. This is not about saying anyone that claims to be a Democrat has no faith, because this post clearly was in the context of the Presidential candidates participating in that forum. If Zell Miller was there, might have been a different story.

    The bottom line is that you adore those backwards minded nuts in the form of Clinton, Edwards and Obama. Each of which does more to dodge expressing a true Christian faith then embracing it.

    I’ve noted Edwards above. Clinton as well. Obama’s pastor is a race baiting nut who prays to ancestors. These are the people you defend.

    Regarding judging, you need to get off the cliche train and learn the truth.
    Matthew 7:1-6 (New King James Version)

    1) “Judge not, that you be not judged.

    2) For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

    3) And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?

    4) Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye?

    5) Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

    6) “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

    Now, if I clear myself of a sin and notice you have an issue with it, I am to help you given I see clearly and not prior to that. I see the error of the efforts of Clinton, Obama and Edwards you do not. Admit it, you’ll be voting for one of those 3 in November 2008 or you hope to do so.

    People “inside” as in those who claim the Christian faith are to be judged by those in the faith and excommunicated if found to continue willfully in sin.

    1 Corinthians 5:9-13 (New King James Version)

    9) I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.

    10) Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.

    11) But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

    12) For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside?

    13) But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

    So I see people who CLAIM to be Christians, yet they wish to condone the abomination of homosexual behavior with government perks. They claim to be Christians, yet they want to use the force of government to stand up for sexual immorality. They have a long and continued history of helping kill babies in the womb. Oh but because they are in the mist of a campaign I should suddenly keep my mouth shut?

    Your user name is false and your time here is running short.

  11. jesuswasaliberal Says:

    “This is not about saying anyone that claims to be a Democrat has no faith”

    Actually, it is. That’s what you continue to do. That was the ONLY reason I responded to your post. If you disagree with someone’s politics, I’m ok with that – such is the nature of human interaction. I DO NOT object to your politics, or the fact that you are conservative – I may disagree with you, but I respect your point of view.

    Again, my only objection is that you continue to insist that these people only CLAIM to be Christians, yet you cannot see inside their hearts, or mine (which you claim to do: “you adore those backwards minded nuts”)

    As far as my time here is running short, it’s your blog, and you have the right to do that. Heaven forbid you should have to discuss opposing points of view.

  12. IndependentConservative Says:

    I see the fruit and it’s pretty rotten. You continue to defend them with claims I can’t see what is obvious to me.

    Yes your time here is short. Not because I don’t allow opposing points of view. Otherwise you’d never get a single comment here. But my time for entertaining someone who fails to see the truth is limited, so I can’t entertain you forever and I won’t.

    (Mormons, because they continually lie are the only ones I’ve restricted from this blog. I gave them a chance and had to cut them off from being allowed to comment. Other than that all others have been allowed to comment, till I say their time is up. Oh yea, and some lady once was praising a pulpit pimp, I didn’t post her comment because it was a waste of time. That’s about it. You get to oppose me, but I don’t engage in circular debates for long and don’t allow continual babble, so once I’m done entertaining it, I send you on your way. My time is not unlimited in this body of flesh, so I’ve got to ration it out wisely.)

  13. jesuswasaliberal Says:

    My final comment is this: by your logic, I could claim that your faith is false, because you oppose those who oppose the war in Iraq, therefore you support the war, and Jesus said “Love your enemy,” so your fruit is rotten, too.
    I can’t say that, though, because I realize that it is possible to be brothers & sisters in Christ and still disagree on earthly politics.

    May the Lord Bless you & keep you.
    May the Lord make His face to smile upon you.

  14. jesuswasaliberal Says:

    Oops, I forgot to say: sorry about the snarky comment: “Heaven forbid you should have to discuss opposing points of view.” I make the mistake of assuming I knew why you said my time was short – and of course, that’s what I was objecting to on your part, so we’re back to the log in my eye. I’m sorry.
    You’re right when you say this discussion has gone as long as is useful.

  15. IndependentConservative Says:

    No apology needed :) . God Bless you and I pray we both grow in knowledge of the Lord.

  16. jesuswasaliberal Says:

    Amen

  17. Eric Says:

    wasaliberal said, “…I could claim that your faith is false, because you oppose those who oppose the war in Iraq, therefore you support the war, and Jesus said “Love your enemy,” so your fruit is rotten, too.”

    “They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.” (Revelation 17:14)

    Let your faith be your guide.

  18. IndependentConservative Says:

    Eric, you know I could have mentioned Romans 13:4 in response to his “love your enemy” assertion, but figured it would not be properly understood given the course of the discussion. Which is why I let it go. I had already mentioned the total for babies killed via abortion dwarfs anything taking place in Iraq.

    Then of course there were 5,000 babies a month dying in Iraq during the corrupt oil for food scandal with Saddam in power.

    There was evidence of a real threat. A threat that had previously attempt to kill a US President.

    Some folks paint Christianity as purely pacifist, but jump right over Acts 18. But I’ve found that the pacifist stance is selective in its application.

    But if right now Saddam was still in power, terrorist were plotting from there and not fighting US forces there, Saddam really could have formed a greater alliance with them. The Clinton Administration always feared Bin Laden would run to Iraq and it would be hard to find him there, plus if he hooked up with Saddam… The thought of going into Iran if necessary would have been pretty hard to consider, with Saddam still running things in Iraq and knowing he had similar desires. It all might have been more ugly than some claim if nothing was done in Iraq. The Bush Administration just totally miscalculated how to handle things after the victory. Because the leader was taken out, his military dismantled and we could have left right then and there claiming victory. But these days victory is assessed in the ability to not only tear an enemy down, but build the enemy back up afterwards and since there is an effort to rebuild, some cry about “the war”. Of course the troops could leave now and suddenly all who are crying about US involvement probably would not say much if a Civil War escalated there. I don’t think the Liberal view makes much sense, I’m not going to sit and continually cry about the government being engaged in a war against a nation we know was pure evil. I just don’t like some of the things being allowed there now, like persecution of Christians for example.

    In the book The Art of War the instruction is to maintain the enemy’s army and put it under your command, not dismantle it. Let’s just say although I never broadcast it here, I feel that was a critical mistake. Yea those guys were bad, but it would have been best to make selective changes than the dismantle them totally.

    Or you can take the “blow them all away” route, which is my preferred method at this point given we can’t go back in time, because the “surgical” method of war is proving to be a failure, unless the enemy is not native to that territory. The “surgical” method only works when the enemy is totally non-native in nature. Like getting Nazis out of France and such. Right now, Lebanon is using the “blow them all away” method with their local enemy and it’s working pretty well.

  19. Eric Says:

    Darnell,

    I really enjoyed reading your responses to the wasaliberal person. Your comments were on point, and you were always able to provide the appropriate scriptural reference.

    The war on terror, that the liberals deny exist, is very complicated, with many actors whose actions and motives may not always be apparent to the casual observer. I think it was Dr Savage that recently said that “the devils biggest lie is that the devil does not exist.” Such is true with the enemies of this country. FWIW, I always keep in mind that the war on terror is the battle for our survival, and the battle of good and evil that has been going on since the beginning of time. I usually try and impress upon liberals I meet in this type of forum the importance of choosing sides and the eternal consequences of choosing incorrectly, but they seldom listen.
    Whenever a liberal says, “Love your enemy,” I just remind myself that we are in a spiritual battle and we must “…put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand (Ephesians 6:13).” I don’t think God wants his people to run from evil, we should confront it. My faith tells me that it is possible to love your enemy and to do everything to stand your ground even if a life must be lost. I believe in the protection of innocent life. Since “Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:13)” I life lost in the battle against evil is not in vain.
    On a political note, the first time I saw John Edwards in person was in a church. I no longer attend that church. I realized that any minister that would support him is not the leader of a church that I should be attending. As I said in my previous post…” I once was blind, but now I see.”
    You run a very good site. Keep up the good work, and keep fightin’ the good fight. God Bless.

  20. IndependentConservative Says:

    Thank you and God Bless you too brother.

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