Comments on: How the Church Should Treat Politicians, the Rich, Famous and Others Held in High Earthly Regard, When They Enter Our Meetings/Services. http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/05/17/christians_no_favoratism/ The Independent Conservative saying what needs to be said! Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:35:55 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/05/17/christians_no_favoratism/comment-page-2/#comment-7617 IndependentConservative Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:55:35 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1385#comment-7617 Gxg, I got your comment about the current financial issues and we do have fiat money coming out of our ears, but your source leads to other things that are total garbage and nonsense. <em>(Basically a source like that throws up any conspiracy theory they can think of hoping to see what sticks, because they have a politically driven agenda.) </em> And please folks, stop following people that toss around 9/11 conspiracy garbage, <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/08/09/9_11_hoaxes/" rel="nofollow">because it's been shown to be bogus too many times over</a>. <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/11/27/citi_abu_dhabi_deal/" rel="nofollow">We have covered the financial matters in this other thread.</a> I'm shutting this thread down from comments, because it's gone way off topic. Please use the <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/contact/" rel="nofollow">contact form</a> if you get any details about the 9 Marks issue. Gxg, I got your comment about the current financial issues and we do have fiat money coming out of our ears, but your source leads to other things that are total garbage and nonsense. (Basically a source like that throws up any conspiracy theory they can think of hoping to see what sticks, because they have a politically driven agenda.) And please folks, stop following people that toss around 9/11 conspiracy garbage, because it’s been shown to be bogus too many times over. We have covered the financial matters in this other thread.

I’m shutting this thread down from comments, because it’s gone way off topic.

Please use the contact form if you get any details about the 9 Marks issue.

]]> By: Gxg--G2 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/05/17/christians_no_favoratism/comment-page-1/#comment-7615 Gxg--G2 Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:49:45 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1385#comment-7615 The same thing goes for their even adressing the issues of Rick Warren/"The Purpose Driven Life" book (under the Book Review section). Again, though, I'm guessing (and hoping) that perhaps there's innocence on their parts......because if they've chosen to be faithfully sound in theology/belief on the majority of what they do, it'd be illogical for them to slip up intentionally on something JUST AS CRUCIAL (i.e. adressing the issues of Roman Catholicism) Think I'll email them.... The same thing goes for their even adressing the issues of Rick Warren/"The Purpose Driven Life" book (under the Book Review section). Again, though, I’m guessing (and hoping) that perhaps there’s innocence on their parts……because if they’ve chosen to be faithfully sound in theology/belief on the majority of what they do, it’d be illogical for them to slip up intentionally on something JUST AS CRUCIAL (i.e. adressing the issues of Roman Catholicism)

Think I’ll email them….

]]> By: Gxg--G2 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/05/17/christians_no_favoratism/comment-page-1/#comment-7614 Gxg--G2 Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:41:24 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1385#comment-7614 Odd, however, seeing that they've tackled other DANGEROUS & HERECTICAL movements (both in highlighting the valid/biblical things they've done and adressing where they've fallen away from Scripture).......such as the EMERGENT CHURCH for example (look under the title "EMERGING & MISSIONAL" on the bar to your right). Odd, however, seeing that they’ve tackled other DANGEROUS & HERECTICAL movements (both in highlighting the valid/biblical things they’ve done and adressing where they’ve fallen away from Scripture)…….such as the EMERGENT CHURCH for example (look under the title "EMERGING & MISSIONAL" on the bar to your right).

]]> By: Gxg--G2 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/05/17/christians_no_favoratism/comment-page-1/#comment-7613 Gxg--G2 Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:33:26 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1385#comment-7613 Hey, Brah.... <blockquote>Gxg, I know you and some others really are into 9 Marks. <a href="http://www.9marks.org/partner/0,,5339,00.html" rel="nofollow">I want you to take a look at this page on their site and please tell me what you think?</a> </blockquote>Having a hard time finding the link, but If you can direct me to where the link to the site was at, I'd appreciate it. Regarding the link information, yes.......<strong><em>that is an issue. (especially if there is not an active refutation/examining of the theology of Roman Catholicism & the MANY DANGEROUS ERRORS it promotes). </em></strong>Perhaps it'd be best to email them and ask them about it......cause sometimes, people honestly don't know.. <strong><em> </em></strong> Hey, Brah….

Gxg, I know you and some others really are into 9 Marks. I want you to take a look at this page on their site and please tell me what you think?

Having a hard time finding the link, but If you can direct me to where the link to the site was at, I’d appreciate it. Regarding the link information, yes…….that is an issue. (especially if there is not an active refutation/examining of the theology of Roman Catholicism & the MANY DANGEROUS ERRORS it promotes).

Perhaps it’d be best to email them and ask them about it……cause sometimes, people honestly don’t know..

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/05/17/christians_no_favoratism/comment-page-1/#comment-7612 IndependentConservative Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:44:36 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1385#comment-7612 Art123 - There is no money in the fund for you.  So you have no "Social Security".  You're pushing to keep an empty piggy bank. I agree we need to pray, but I know Social Security is anything but.  With all the other financial instability that you recognize, you need to admit that Social Security is not what you should bank your financial future on. All roads regarding commerce have to eventually lead to the anti-Christ.  So you can't do commerce without him right?  Well a total financial meltdown might make people all run to one "savior" <em>(false savior of course)</em>, to do commerce and have money.  No way I'm looking to <strong><em>god</em></strong>verment for my security, no way.  If I have CONTROL of my money, I can decide to keep it under my mattress if I desire, but thinking the government scam will continue...don't count on it, literally. Art123 – There is no money in the fund for you.  So you have no "Social Security".  You’re pushing to keep an empty piggy bank.

I agree we need to pray, but I know Social Security is anything but.  With all the other financial instability that you recognize, you need to admit that Social Security is not what you should bank your financial future on.

All roads regarding commerce have to eventually lead to the anti-Christ.  So you can’t do commerce without him right?  Well a total financial meltdown might make people all run to one "savior" (false savior of course), to do commerce and have money.  No way I’m looking to godverment for my security, no way.  If I have CONTROL of my money, I can decide to keep it under my mattress if I desire, but thinking the government scam will continue…don’t count on it, literally.

]]> By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/05/17/christians_no_favoratism/comment-page-1/#comment-7611 art123 Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:00:48 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1385#comment-7611 I believe that the Enron scandal should be a lesson taught that you shouldn't sleep on these corporations.  There's too much greed and wickedness in high places and the poor and less fortunate suffers.  This is the time for prayer that the Lord has a strategy for you in order to survive.  When the government, the corporations, and the church don't care, it is time for us all to get on our knees and pray. I believe that the Enron scandal should be a lesson taught that you shouldn’t sleep on these corporations.  There’s too much greed and wickedness in high places and the poor and less fortunate suffers.  This is the time for prayer that the Lord has a strategy for you in order to survive.  When the government, the corporations, and the church don’t care, it is time for us all to get on our knees and pray.

]]> By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/05/17/christians_no_favoratism/comment-page-1/#comment-7610 art123 Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:44:31 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1385#comment-7610 The government controlls social security, despite its broke state, the stock market is unstable, and corporations are moving overseas and will you have a job tomorrow?  Now what?  Many people already know something is wrong with the government. The government controlls social security, despite its broke state, the stock market is unstable, and corporations are moving overseas and will you have a job tomorrow?  Now what?  Many people already know something is wrong with the government.

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/05/17/christians_no_favoratism/comment-page-1/#comment-7609 IndependentConservative Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:13:03 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1385#comment-7609 Art123, your government is already broke. Social security is a con job. <h3 id="post-180" class="storytitle"><a href="../../../../2005/11/30/pension_scam/" title="Permanent Link to The Pension Plan Scam! (Social Security included!)" rel="nofollow">The Pension Plan Scam! (Social Security included!)</a></h3> <h3 id="post-24" class="storytitle"><a href="../../../../2005/10/11/black_conservatives_united/" title="Permanent Link to The wheels of change are turning!" rel="nofollow">The wheels of change are turning!</a></h3> <strong>And by all means, please read this one:</strong> <h3 class="r"><a href="http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed011405b.cfm" rel="nofollow"><strong>Social Security</strong>: <strong>All Trust and No Fund</strong></a></h3> And here are others for you to pass time reading: <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"><a href="http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4108" rel="nofollow">End Social Security by Alex Epstein</a> </font><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"><a href="http://www.cato.org/dailys/12-17-97.html" rel="nofollow">Chile's Social Security Lesson For The U.S.</a> Trust me when I say, you want as much control over your own money as possible. If I could press a button tomorrow and totally pull my family out of the social security plan completely, to have the money to do with as I saw fit, I'd stomp that button with MY FOOT and jam the thing in. </font> When an economy is in bad shape, the <strong>LAST </strong>thing you want to do is look to the government hoping an already mathematically broken plan that is <strong>stacked to the hilt with <em>IOUs</em></strong> will secure your financial future. I'm not saying dump those already getting Social Security checks, but we need an off ramp from that scam and FAST. I don't even want the IRA plan at this point, I want Social Security totally GONE and I'll decide how the money is spent. Art123, your government is already broke. Social security is a con job.

The Pension Plan Scam! (Social Security included!)

The wheels of change are turning!

And by all means, please read this one:

Social Security: All Trust and No Fund

And here are others for you to pass time reading:
End Social Security by Alex Epstein
Chile’s Social Security Lesson For The U.S.

Trust me when I say, you want as much control over your own money as possible. If I could press a button tomorrow and totally pull my family out of the social security plan completely, to have the money to do with as I saw fit, I’d stomp that button with MY FOOT and jam the thing in.

When an economy is in bad shape, the LAST thing you want to do is look to the government hoping an already mathematically broken plan that is stacked to the hilt with IOUs will secure your financial future.

I’m not saying dump those already getting Social Security checks, but we need an off ramp from that scam and FAST. I don’t even want the IRA plan at this point, I want Social Security totally GONE and I’ll decide how the money is spent.

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/05/17/christians_no_favoratism/comment-page-1/#comment-7608 IndependentConservative Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:53:39 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1385#comment-7608 Gxg, I know you and some others really are into 9 Marks. <a href="http://www.9marks.org/partner/0,,5339,00.html" rel="nofollow">I want you to take a look at this page on their site and please tell me what you think?</a> I find that to be a <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/10/09/jesus_your_only_hope/" rel="nofollow">major</a>, <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/12/03/roman_cath_wrong0220072132/" rel="nofollow">major</a>, MAJOR problem. Gxg, I know you and some others really are into 9 Marks. I want you to take a look at this page on their site and please tell me what you think?

I find that to be a major, major, MAJOR problem.

]]> By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/05/17/christians_no_favoratism/comment-page-1/#comment-7607 art123 Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:51:31 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1385#comment-7607 I know this is slightly off topic, but this is in response to Gxg's comment that when the government is taking care of poor saints and the people instead of the church, something is wrong.  Well, anytime the government plans to privatize social security with IRA's, something is wrong with both the church and the government.  Why gamble with the market with hard working people's money when they retire.  IRA's are currently available for people who are interested.  This is a capitalistic society and the church has sold us out. I know this is slightly off topic, but this is in response to Gxg’s comment that when the government is taking care of poor saints and the people instead of the church, something is wrong.  Well, anytime the government plans to privatize social security with IRA’s, something is wrong with both the church and the government.  Why gamble with the market with hard working people’s money when they retire.  IRA’s are currently available for people who are interested.  This is a capitalistic society and the church has sold us out.

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