Comments on: John Hagee Fails to Know the Sower For the Sake of Prosperity. (Video)

By: Gxg--G2

Gxg--G2 — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:36:34 +0000

Cool, Brah….

By: IndependentConservative

IndependentConservative — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:26:57 +0000

A question was asked by someone about the parable who mutually sees how it plays into the matter. But if the matter is to be debated, please do so in a thread devoted to that.

We don’t want to take this from the topic for those who may still need help regarding Hagee.

By: Gxg--G2

Gxg--G2 — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:13:31 +0000

My bad…..but a bit confused seeing that I didn’t start anything and it seemed that the thread was already going in that direction by you/others.

Either way, it’s all good. Spilled Milk….

By: IndependentConservative

IndependentConservative — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:07:03 +0000

Gxg, I am deleting your comment that was in moderation, if you wish to debate the matter of predestination, there are appropriate threads for that here and here and here and here and here. No more on the issue will be discussed in this thread. This thread is about Hagee and his heresy.

By: IndependentConservative

IndependentConservative — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:02:21 +0000

@7 my thought is the Lord’s will be done period.

Anyone that repents is because God called them to His Son, scripture is clear about that.

By: art123

art123 — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:34:29 +0000

Mark 4:11-12 appears to be a cross-reference to IC’s scriptures. Also, I believe that it supports Romans 8 because can a stiff-necked, degenerate sinner change himself and become converted? My comment.

By: Gxg--G2

Gxg--G2 — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:19:55 +0000

I'd be much interested in what people's thoughts are on this... We read in Mark 4:11-12 that he spoke in parables as a judgment against the obstinate Jews. The purpose of parables was to keep his message from entering their ears, "otherwise they might turn and be forgiven" (v.12). Had those stiff-necked people been allowed to hear the truth straight out, they might have turned to receive it.

By: art123

art123 — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:02:37 +0000

Agreed.

By: IndependentConservative

IndependentConservative — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:53:25 +0000

If not for the grace of God, I having read the same words they have read would have never understood. Understanding it and truly believing it are the work of God drawing to His Son, John 6:44. Even in that chapter of scripture with the parable of the sower, Jesus makes it known that some are granted certain things and others are not, Matthew 13:11. For there to be prophesy, everyone has to do exactly what God said will be done.

By: art123

art123 — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:34:10 +0000

IC, can you also take that same scripture "The Parable of the Sower" and talk about predestination? It would look like Hagee took only a part of that scripture and run with it, instead of talking about the whole concept of "The Parable of the Sower". That’s what many WOF’ers do anyway. Just like Paula White at one time watching her take first fruits in the bible and twist it to mean sowing into the ministry and you would be blessed at the end of the year. Jamal-Bryant is also a big time twister of scriptures.