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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/14/medina_s_pullings/comment-page-1/#comment-5211</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for implying you were an advocate of her false teaching.

Thank you for the words of encouragement.  Please, via whatever means you deem appropriate continue working to help those who are lost in false teaching to see the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for implying you were an advocate of her false teaching.</p>
<p>Thank you for the words of encouragement.  Please, via whatever means you deem appropriate continue working to help those who are lost in false teaching to see the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: amberslove</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/14/medina_s_pullings/comment-page-1/#comment-5210</link>
		<dc:creator>amberslove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok- I receive that. Also, I am not a fan of Pullings. I don&#039;t know much about her. I will pray for her though. You stay encouraged in the Lord and I love you, ok. God Bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok- I receive that. Also, I am not a fan of Pullings. I don&#8217;t know much about her. I will pray for her though. You stay encouraged in the Lord and I love you, ok. God Bless</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/14/medina_s_pullings/comment-page-1/#comment-5209</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 22:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus called them vipers too.  If I didn&#039;t love folks lost to these pimps I&#039;d say nothing at all.  I love the pimp enough to call them what they are.

You don&#039;t know that people are being helped, but they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus called them vipers too.  If I didn&#8217;t love folks lost to these pimps I&#8217;d say nothing at all.  I love the pimp enough to call them what they are.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know that people are being helped, but they are.</p>
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		<title>By: amberslove</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/14/medina_s_pullings/comment-page-1/#comment-5208</link>
		<dc:creator>amberslove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 22:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes flee from them, not go and tear them down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes flee from them, not go and tear them down.</p>
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		<title>By: amberslove</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/14/medina_s_pullings/comment-page-1/#comment-5207</link>
		<dc:creator>amberslove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 22:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have to have the love of Jesus- and He is compassionate- can you honestly say that if Jesus was with you in the same room and said lets go witness and win souls that He would have taken this approach. You are so anointed- I feel it all in my spirit...but this is wrong..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have to have the love of Jesus- and He is compassionate- can you honestly say that if Jesus was with you in the same room and said lets go witness and win souls that He would have taken this approach. You are so anointed- I feel it all in my spirit&#8230;but this is wrong..</p>
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		<title>By: amberslove</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/14/medina_s_pullings/comment-page-1/#comment-5206</link>
		<dc:creator>amberslove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 22:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing- I have to let you know that alot of what you say is truth, the word speaks like a two edged sword, but without love we have nothing. I do not feel the love here. You are so dynamic and could be a key instrument in leading people out of bondage- but without love - this whole website is useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing- I have to let you know that alot of what you say is truth, the word speaks like a two edged sword, but without love we have nothing. I do not feel the love here. You are so dynamic and could be a key instrument in leading people out of bondage- but without love &#8211; this whole website is useless.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/14/medina_s_pullings/comment-page-1/#comment-5205</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 22:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is not a sister in sin.  She is far worse.  She is a false teacher.  A viper and a deceiver.  The apostle Paul did not teach that we should run and try and &quot;help&quot; such, but to &lt;b&gt;FLEE from them&lt;/b&gt;, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%206;&amp;version=50;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1 Timothy 6&lt;/a&gt;.  She is not someone who has not heard the Gospel truth.  She took the truth, twisted it into a lie and profits from it.

All these pimps have been called out time after time and corrected, but they continually reject sound doctrine.

God gave me a warning about the pimps and I&#039;m spreading it to others.  I&#039;m not tearing down a &quot;sister&quot;, I&#039;m exposing a pimp who robs the church.

It&#039;s interesting how exposing one Black Lady Pimp draws more defenders than all others that are exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is not a sister in sin.  She is far worse.  She is a false teacher.  A viper and a deceiver.  The apostle Paul did not teach that we should run and try and &#8220;help&#8221; such, but to <b>FLEE from them</b>, see <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%206;&amp;version=50;" rel="nofollow">1 Timothy 6</a>.  She is not someone who has not heard the Gospel truth.  She took the truth, twisted it into a lie and profits from it.</p>
<p>All these pimps have been called out time after time and corrected, but they continually reject sound doctrine.</p>
<p>God gave me a warning about the pimps and I&#8217;m spreading it to others.  I&#8217;m not tearing down a &#8220;sister&#8221;, I&#8217;m exposing a pimp who robs the church.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting how exposing one Black Lady Pimp draws more defenders than all others that are exposed.</p>
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		<title>By: amberslove</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/14/medina_s_pullings/comment-page-1/#comment-5204</link>
		<dc:creator>amberslove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 21:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one question that has dropped in my spirit. 
If Medina Pullings was in a car accident and you were a passerby, and you seen that the gas was leaking and there may be a potential explosion, would you pull her out and help save her life?

I am not getting ready to recite scripture after scripture after scripture- you know the word and so do I. I am using an analogy as Jesus often did. 
The same way we would help save a life (if your a Christian) is the same way people need to view souls. (let&#039;s reach them so their soul won&#039;t be lost in a burning fire- if you can&#039;t reach them pray to God his hands our bigger.) Their life isn&#039;t as important as their soul. Medina is a women of God- she may be in sin- but as her sister or brother we are pray for their soul. We can go ON and ON and ON about Christians in the world not living right- but I will not tear them down- Be careful what you say- God has already gave you a warning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one question that has dropped in my spirit.<br />
If Medina Pullings was in a car accident and you were a passerby, and you seen that the gas was leaking and there may be a potential explosion, would you pull her out and help save her life?</p>
<p>I am not getting ready to recite scripture after scripture after scripture- you know the word and so do I. I am using an analogy as Jesus often did.<br />
The same way we would help save a life (if your a Christian) is the same way people need to view souls. (let&#8217;s reach them so their soul won&#8217;t be lost in a burning fire- if you can&#8217;t reach them pray to God his hands our bigger.) Their life isn&#8217;t as important as their soul. Medina is a women of God- she may be in sin- but as her sister or brother we are pray for their soul. We can go ON and ON and ON about Christians in the world not living right- but I will not tear them down- Be careful what you say- God has already gave you a warning.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/14/medina_s_pullings/comment-page-1/#comment-5157</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 14:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for stopping by setfreeee.

I&#039;m glad you see what I&#039;m feeling.  Personally, I grew up under the Pentecostal Holiness, &lt;em&gt;roll on the fool, speak in tongues or you ain&#039;t spirit filled, repent after every 5 steps taken, pay tithes (and it better be off the gross income plus an offering) or you&#039;re disobedient, the pastor&#039;s actions are beyond question&lt;/em&gt; doctrine.  I eventually left because I realized all the tongue talking and interpretations were so far from scripture.  Not to mention the time a lady died in the church and the pastor told people not to tell it happened, because he was embarrassed that he/they could not &lt;em&gt;raise the dead&lt;/em&gt; :D .

When I left, I had removed myself from something that was false, but still had much false doctrine within me.  So later in life I ended up at Eddie Long&#039;s &lt;strike&gt;club&lt;/strike&gt; spot for 7 years.  He sounded dynamic.  He made up stuff that emotionally felt good although it was not in the Bible.  He could touch people and they fell over.  It all LOOKED so good.  And he was telling how I could be rich.  It was the ultimate emotional satisfaction.

I remember I&#039;d be in the barbershops defending Eddie Long like he was Elijah.  The stuff I get here is plenty of what I said myself.  Which is why those who still don&#039;t understand and speak against my efforts are so transparent to me.  Because I was once them.

I recall once I gave up on defending the pimp, but still was there, I resigned myself to saying &lt;em&gt;&quot;well at least I know what my pastor&#039;s problem is, none of them are perfect.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;  Then I had the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20timothy%206&amp;version=50&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1 Timothy 6&lt;/a&gt; dilemma, because Paul said to FLEE such false doctrine.  Then I realized I might not find perfect, but I better get the heck outta there.  Once out I was able to better discern how dangerous it was to even try and remain there.  Kind of like a former drug addict that can&#039;t beleive they tried only doing the drugs part time.

Anyway, over time I now know how dangerous these pimps really are.  They are not even preaching the Gospel of Jesus, because Jesus asked us to give to the poor, while they ask the poor to give to them.  They&#039;ve totally turned the ministry to the poor on its head.  And I know about their minuscule efforts to supposedly help people in need of help, because I was part of it and saw how little was devoted to such efforts.  While the building accommodations &lt;em&gt;(and the pastor&#039;s own lifestyle)&lt;/em&gt; remained lavish.  One minister who was running benevolence for a while at New Birth &lt;em&gt;(Eddie Long&#039;s club)&lt;/em&gt; told of how he was scolded for giving away too much money to people &lt;em&gt;(to Christians, we&#039;re not talking about unsaved folks)&lt;/em&gt; who had not paid tithes and needed financial help.  Basically, denying them was the church&#039;s way of fulfilling the Malachi 3 curse.  Those who could not consistently pay tithes were deemed bad stewards.  While back when tithes were actually paid by the Jews, the poor were not only exempt from paying, but the recipients of some of the tithe.

I try and work with folks who still don&#039;t understand, but my time does have its limits and I have to let them go at some point and pray they learn in time.  I didn&#039;t get it when the first few people tried to help me either.  Now one of the guys who I used to speak against is one of my friends, because he loved me enough as a brother to tell me the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for stopping by setfreeee.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you see what I&#8217;m feeling.  Personally, I grew up under the Pentecostal Holiness, <em>roll on the fool, speak in tongues or you ain&#8217;t spirit filled, repent after every 5 steps taken, pay tithes (and it better be off the gross income plus an offering) or you&#8217;re disobedient, the pastor&#8217;s actions are beyond question</em> doctrine.  I eventually left because I realized all the tongue talking and interpretations were so far from scripture.  Not to mention the time a lady died in the church and the pastor told people not to tell it happened, because he was embarrassed that he/they could not <em>raise the dead</em> <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  .</p>
<p>When I left, I had removed myself from something that was false, but still had much false doctrine within me.  So later in life I ended up at Eddie Long&#8217;s <strike>club</strike> spot for 7 years.  He sounded dynamic.  He made up stuff that emotionally felt good although it was not in the Bible.  He could touch people and they fell over.  It all LOOKED so good.  And he was telling how I could be rich.  It was the ultimate emotional satisfaction.</p>
<p>I remember I&#8217;d be in the barbershops defending Eddie Long like he was Elijah.  The stuff I get here is plenty of what I said myself.  Which is why those who still don&#8217;t understand and speak against my efforts are so transparent to me.  Because I was once them.</p>
<p>I recall once I gave up on defending the pimp, but still was there, I resigned myself to saying <em>&#8220;well at least I know what my pastor&#8217;s problem is, none of them are perfect.&#8221;</em>  Then I had the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20timothy%206&amp;version=50" rel="nofollow">1 Timothy 6</a> dilemma, because Paul said to FLEE such false doctrine.  Then I realized I might not find perfect, but I better get the heck outta there.  Once out I was able to better discern how dangerous it was to even try and remain there.  Kind of like a former drug addict that can&#8217;t beleive they tried only doing the drugs part time.</p>
<p>Anyway, over time I now know how dangerous these pimps really are.  They are not even preaching the Gospel of Jesus, because Jesus asked us to give to the poor, while they ask the poor to give to them.  They&#8217;ve totally turned the ministry to the poor on its head.  And I know about their minuscule efforts to supposedly help people in need of help, because I was part of it and saw how little was devoted to such efforts.  While the building accommodations <em>(and the pastor&#8217;s own lifestyle)</em> remained lavish.  One minister who was running benevolence for a while at New Birth <em>(Eddie Long&#8217;s club)</em> told of how he was scolded for giving away too much money to people <em>(to Christians, we&#8217;re not talking about unsaved folks)</em> who had not paid tithes and needed financial help.  Basically, denying them was the church&#8217;s way of fulfilling the Malachi 3 curse.  Those who could not consistently pay tithes were deemed bad stewards.  While back when tithes were actually paid by the Jews, the poor were not only exempt from paying, but the recipients of some of the tithe.</p>
<p>I try and work with folks who still don&#8217;t understand, but my time does have its limits and I have to let them go at some point and pray they learn in time.  I didn&#8217;t get it when the first few people tried to help me either.  Now one of the guys who I used to speak against is one of my friends, because he loved me enough as a brother to tell me the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: setfreeee</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/14/medina_s_pullings/comment-page-1/#comment-5154</link>
		<dc:creator>setfreeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 06:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what, IC? Like you, I&#039;ve seen/heard/read the same nonsense from ignorant Christians. In fact, I was one for over 10 years. 

I sat under a prosperity preacher and hardly ever cracked my Bible open. One day, something made me open it and study up on the tithe, and my eyes were opened. I could not believe the truth had been staring me in the face the whole time and I was too stupid to see it.

Songstress will get it one day. You have planted a seed here, and fortunately for her, God will water it and make it plain to her soon enough. 

Keep doing what you&#039;re doing. I couldn&#039;t help but laugh at both of your posts, because I had a very similar discussion with some people on a website soon after I learned the truth. Even when confronted with scripture, when you&#039;re in deception, the truth looks like lies. 

Anyway, you&#039;re right about Medina. She&#039;s pretty on the outside, but that means nothing. What we Christians have to realize is that looking pretty, being rich, being famous, etc, are all things that ANYONE can attain. The world has all of that on a much larger scale than the church, so how in the world (pun intended) can we measure our spirituality on those things? The ONLY difference between us and the world is Jesus.

Isn&#039;t that an amazing concept? 

Just seeing the trickery live and in color makes me skin crawl. It&#039;s like, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO WITH JESUS? It&#039;s humanism, plain and simple. And you know, I could swallow it if they kept it separate. They can do their self-help, business seminars, bookselling, life coaching, spiritual lottery (tithing), etc, all they want. But keep it separate from God&#039;s Word. Then, at least people could see it for what it is and make an educated choice about Whom they will serve.

Anyway, sorry for rambling. Just wanted you to know I agree with you!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what, IC? Like you, I&#8217;ve seen/heard/read the same nonsense from ignorant Christians. In fact, I was one for over 10 years. </p>
<p>I sat under a prosperity preacher and hardly ever cracked my Bible open. One day, something made me open it and study up on the tithe, and my eyes were opened. I could not believe the truth had been staring me in the face the whole time and I was too stupid to see it.</p>
<p>Songstress will get it one day. You have planted a seed here, and fortunately for her, God will water it and make it plain to her soon enough. </p>
<p>Keep doing what you&#8217;re doing. I couldn&#8217;t help but laugh at both of your posts, because I had a very similar discussion with some people on a website soon after I learned the truth. Even when confronted with scripture, when you&#8217;re in deception, the truth looks like lies. </p>
<p>Anyway, you&#8217;re right about Medina. She&#8217;s pretty on the outside, but that means nothing. What we Christians have to realize is that looking pretty, being rich, being famous, etc, are all things that ANYONE can attain. The world has all of that on a much larger scale than the church, so how in the world (pun intended) can we measure our spirituality on those things? The ONLY difference between us and the world is Jesus.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that an amazing concept? </p>
<p>Just seeing the trickery live and in color makes me skin crawl. It&#8217;s like, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO WITH JESUS? It&#8217;s humanism, plain and simple. And you know, I could swallow it if they kept it separate. They can do their self-help, business seminars, bookselling, life coaching, spiritual lottery (tithing), etc, all they want. But keep it separate from God&#8217;s Word. Then, at least people could see it for what it is and make an educated choice about Whom they will serve.</p>
<p>Anyway, sorry for rambling. Just wanted you to know I agree with you!!!</p>
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