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	<title>Comments on: T.D. Jakes Pimping for TBN &#8211; Night 1 of the TBN Pimp-a-thon! (Video)</title>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/09/td_jakes_pimps_4_tbn/comment-page-1/#comment-6501</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See the video, Creflo says it.  Given Creflo feels that he is guaranteed &lt;em&gt;&quot;total life prosperity&quot;&lt;/em&gt; he has to &lt;b&gt;make up something&lt;/b&gt; for when Christians die.

It&#039;s not on YouTube anymore, but there was footage of Creflo once even trashing John the Baptist and why he was in prison.

This is also why he went on TBN once and claimed that people who do all he says do &lt;em&gt;(sending money, lots of it)&lt;/em&gt; and remain poor must not be &lt;em&gt;&quot;loving right&quot;&lt;/em&gt;.  I once considered putting it on YouTube, but I figured if someone can&#039;t figure him out with all that is already available, that would only confuse them.  Because in those lies you could tell Creflo spent 6 minutes, 1 more minute than his usual 5 hot minutes, preparing his lies before presentation to the public.  So you can&#039;t be a novice and know why he&#039;s lying. In fact, a novice would assume he&#039;s telling the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the video, Creflo says it.  Given Creflo feels that he is guaranteed <em>&#8220;total life prosperity&#8221;</em> he has to <b>make up something</b> for when Christians die.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not on YouTube anymore, but there was footage of Creflo once even trashing John the Baptist and why he was in prison.</p>
<p>This is also why he went on TBN once and claimed that people who do all he says do <em>(sending money, lots of it)</em> and remain poor must not be <em>&#8220;loving right&#8221;</em>.  I once considered putting it on YouTube, but I figured if someone can&#8217;t figure him out with all that is already available, that would only confuse them.  Because in those lies you could tell Creflo spent 6 minutes, 1 more minute than his usual 5 hot minutes, preparing his lies before presentation to the public.  So you can&#8217;t be a novice and know why he&#8217;s lying. In fact, a novice would assume he&#8217;s telling the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: art123</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/09/td_jakes_pimps_4_tbn/comment-page-1/#comment-6500</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 05:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IC,
So you stated that Creflo Dollar said that the reason those Christian 911 victims died because they were not listening to God? Why do these pulpit pimps act like they have God&#039;s hotline and He tells them everything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IC,<br />
So you stated that Creflo Dollar said that the reason those Christian 911 victims died because they were not listening to God? Why do these pulpit pimps act like they have God&#8217;s hotline and He tells them everything?</p>
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		<title>By: Praiser4Life</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/09/td_jakes_pimps_4_tbn/comment-page-1/#comment-5073</link>
		<dc:creator>Praiser4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100%! I subscribe to &quot;The Voice of the Martyrs&quot; and the persecution they report concerning Christians would blow the mind of most saints. Our brothers and sisters overseas who are being persecuted for the name of Christ put us to shame. It&#039;s not even close. I also agree with you that one day soon the Christians in America will suffer persecution like they have never seen. I pray that all will be ready.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100%! I subscribe to &#8220;The Voice of the Martyrs&#8221; and the persecution they report concerning Christians would blow the mind of most saints. Our brothers and sisters overseas who are being persecuted for the name of Christ put us to shame. It&#8217;s not even close. I also agree with you that one day soon the Christians in America will suffer persecution like they have never seen. I pray that all will be ready.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/09/td_jakes_pimps_4_tbn/comment-page-1/#comment-5072</link>
		<dc:creator>IndependentConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And even by obeying God, you could receive earthly treatment like the apostles who were all killed and before that they were often beaten, imprisoned and scored.

Christians standing for the faith in places like Darfur, Saudi Arabia and other places have received on this earth the reward of having limbs cut off of being killed.  Many of them live for Christ their entire lives, never make much money and die at the hands of their enemies.

Folks need to understand, that the Christian faith is simply not at all about earthly gain, but storing riches in Heaven.  If folks want earthly riches, they can acquire them without ever being a Christian, plenty of non-Christians are rich.  That&#039;s not at all what following Jesus is about.

And the way things are going, this Western world may soon learn the hard way the lessons our Christian brothers and sisters in other places already know all too well.

Or if folks wish to fool themselves into thinking they deserve something, they can fall for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn4na9MmrJw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the insanity of Creflo Dollar, who claims Christian 9/11 victims died simply because they were not fully following and listening to God.&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;(TBN re-aired that sermon of Creflo&#039;s today!)&lt;/em&gt;  What were the apostles doing when they were killed?  By Creflo&#039;s twisted theology, they must have been taking a coffee break and missed when God told them to escape :roll: ...

It&#039;s not about what God can do for us beyond eternal life, which is far more than enough and far more than we deserve.  It&#039;s about what we can do for God and once we start asking for more, we&#039;ve asked the wrong question.

Yea Black folks are no long in slavery, but many a Black person who loved the Lord with all their heart died in it.

Christians need to think long and hard about what they accepted Jesus for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And even by obeying God, you could receive earthly treatment like the apostles who were all killed and before that they were often beaten, imprisoned and scored.</p>
<p>Christians standing for the faith in places like Darfur, Saudi Arabia and other places have received on this earth the reward of having limbs cut off of being killed.  Many of them live for Christ their entire lives, never make much money and die at the hands of their enemies.</p>
<p>Folks need to understand, that the Christian faith is simply not at all about earthly gain, but storing riches in Heaven.  If folks want earthly riches, they can acquire them without ever being a Christian, plenty of non-Christians are rich.  That&#8217;s not at all what following Jesus is about.</p>
<p>And the way things are going, this Western world may soon learn the hard way the lessons our Christian brothers and sisters in other places already know all too well.</p>
<p>Or if folks wish to fool themselves into thinking they deserve something, they can fall for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn4na9MmrJw" rel="nofollow">the insanity of Creflo Dollar, who claims Christian 9/11 victims died simply because they were not fully following and listening to God.</a>  <em>(TBN re-aired that sermon of Creflo&#8217;s today!)</em>  What were the apostles doing when they were killed?  By Creflo&#8217;s twisted theology, they must have been taking a coffee break and missed when God told them to escape <img src='http://www.independentconservative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about what God can do for us beyond eternal life, which is far more than enough and far more than we deserve.  It&#8217;s about what we can do for God and once we start asking for more, we&#8217;ve asked the wrong question.</p>
<p>Yea Black folks are no long in slavery, but many a Black person who loved the Lord with all their heart died in it.</p>
<p>Christians need to think long and hard about what they accepted Jesus for.</p>
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		<title>By: Praiser4Life</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/09/td_jakes_pimps_4_tbn/comment-page-1/#comment-5071</link>
		<dc:creator>Praiser4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will the saints get it? If you want your breakthrough, your miracle, favor, and the many other things the saints desire, you have to obey God. It is not coming by somebody screaming, spitting and twisting scripture. God help us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will the saints get it? If you want your breakthrough, your miracle, favor, and the many other things the saints desire, you have to obey God. It is not coming by somebody screaming, spitting and twisting scripture. God help us!</p>
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		<title>By: PastorDLF</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/09/td_jakes_pimps_4_tbn/comment-page-1/#comment-5070</link>
		<dc:creator>PastorDLF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said it best: this is terrible, horrible, disgusting. And might I add blatantly evil considering that TD Jakes is supposed to be so enlightened about God&#039;s Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it best: this is terrible, horrible, disgusting. And might I add blatantly evil considering that TD Jakes is supposed to be so enlightened about God&#8217;s Word.</p>
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