Comments on: Eddie Long and Paula White, Selling Supposed Favor With God. http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/02/passover_scams/ The Independent Conservative saying what needs to be said! Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:35:55 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/02/passover_scams/comment-page-1/#comment-10968 IndependentConservative Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:00:44 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1305#comment-10968 Thanks ST. I'm sure some folks will be amazed when they see that mess the Lord brought us out of. Watching something like that now with a better understanding, it's amazing to me that I once endorsed it. To God be the glory, through Jesus Christ. Thanks ST.

I’m sure some folks will be amazed when they see that mess the Lord brought us out of. Watching something like that now with a better understanding, it’s amazing to me that I once endorsed it. To God be the glory, through Jesus Christ.

]]> By: speakingtruth http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/02/passover_scams/comment-page-1/#comment-10967 speakingtruth Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:32:00 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1305#comment-10967 OK IC - I thought you'd get a kick out of the fact that <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIV9uON2-O8" rel="nofollow">I found the remixed video you mentioned</a> w/Eddie getting out of a helicopter. And yes, it was remixed for $40K. :roll: OK IC – I thought you’d get a kick out of the fact that I found the remixed video you mentioned w/Eddie getting out of a helicopter.

And yes, it was remixed for $40K.

:roll:

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/02/passover_scams/comment-page-1/#comment-6846 IndependentConservative Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:47:33 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1305#comment-6846 <cite>stinastina</cite> - I know all that you said is true, because I was there for 7+ years.  I don't know how much they spent to remix a video, but I recall they did have a video with men in military garb featuring Long and Byron Cage and it included a helicopter.  And that was back during the <em>Snapfinger days</em>. stinastina – I know all that you said is true, because I was there for 7+ years.  I don’t know how much they spent to remix a video, but I recall they did have a video with men in military garb featuring Long and Byron Cage and it included a helicopter.  And that was back during the Snapfinger days.

]]> By: stinastina http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/02/passover_scams/comment-page-1/#comment-6844 stinastina Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:54:53 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1305#comment-6844 I am so glad someone is holding him accountable. I have a good friend who has been a very long time member and I just feel so bad that she cannot see the truth. I went to his church a couple of times when they were located on Snapfinger Road and I didn't hear or see anything spiritual going on in there. These are some of the things I saw that turned me off: selling tapes and books inside the church, right outside the sanctuary church members have an id # (to track their tithes) the church has a credit union one of the pastors told the congregation that if you haven't been tithing regularly and you fall on hard times, don't come ask the church for money Eddie told the congregation that he knew there were women in out there lusting after him and his muscles (he looks like a toad to me) My ex-husband told me this: Eddie spent $40,000 to create a video remix of one of the church's songs A helicopter was rented for the video Eddie and his bodyguard step out of the helicopter like a bunch of pimps I hope the senate committee nails him !! I am so glad someone is holding him accountable. I have a good friend who has been a very long time member and I just feel so bad that she cannot see the truth. I went to his church a couple of times when they were located on Snapfinger Road and I didn’t hear or see anything spiritual going on in there. These are some of the things I saw that turned me off:
selling tapes and books inside the church, right outside the sanctuary
church members have an id # (to track their tithes)
the church has a credit union
one of the pastors told the congregation that if you haven’t been tithing regularly and you fall on hard times, don’t come ask the church for money
Eddie told the congregation that he knew there were women in out there lusting after him and his muscles (he looks like a toad to me)

My ex-husband told me this:
Eddie spent $40,000 to create a video remix of one of the church’s songs
A helicopter was rented for the video
Eddie and his bodyguard step out of the helicopter like a bunch of pimps

I hope the senate committee nails him !!

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/02/passover_scams/comment-page-1/#comment-5400 IndependentConservative Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:12:12 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1305#comment-5400 You have a Bible that explains things clearly, but you'll never understand till you read it without listening to those who run such scams. When did Jesus and the apostles amass large sums of wealth to build buildings? All you need to do is compare what is happening today versus what Jesus and the apostles did. What is being done today is an exercise in men taking your money to enlarge themselves and their buildings. What they give in charity is sometimes not even 10% of what they took in, while the demand 10% in a "tithing" scam. While Jesus said give to the poor. Name me one mega-church pastor who is poor? Give them nothing. The bills they claim that they need to pay are the result of financial burdens related to buildings and efforts to place themselves in TV, not to help the poor. It's got absolutely nothing to do with what makes me "feel good". That's what the pulpit pimps do. If I wanted you to be nice to me I'd say things you would want to hear. It's about the truth and upholding the true message of Jesus Christ. Not the lie you're being fed by people like Eddie Long and Paula White. You have a Bible that explains things clearly, but you’ll never understand till you read it without listening to those who run such scams.

When did Jesus and the apostles amass large sums of wealth to build buildings?

All you need to do is compare what is happening today versus what Jesus and the apostles did. What is being done today is an exercise in men taking your money to enlarge themselves and their buildings. What they give in charity is sometimes not even 10% of what they took in, while the demand 10% in a “tithing” scam. While Jesus said give to the poor. Name me one mega-church pastor who is poor? Give them nothing. The bills they claim that they need to pay are the result of financial burdens related to buildings and efforts to place themselves in TV, not to help the poor.

It’s got absolutely nothing to do with what makes me “feel good”. That’s what the pulpit pimps do. If I wanted you to be nice to me I’d say things you would want to hear. It’s about the truth and upholding the true message of Jesus Christ. Not the lie you’re being fed by people like Eddie Long and Paula White.

]]> By: nichiel http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/02/passover_scams/comment-page-1/#comment-5399 nichiel Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:55:55 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1305#comment-5399 one thing that I've noticed is that from day 0 of the whole Jesus movement, there has always been an argument of who is right and who is wrong. And Jesus was killed for what he was trying to preach and the folks that continue to preach his word get ridiculed unless they are practically homeless and begging. At this point, I feel like we won't know anything until that "great day" gets here. It won't matter how many schools and hospitals are built and how many people get helped by any of the mega-ministries (as they are called) people are going to have something bad to say about it. But hey whatever makes you feel good about yourself. Peace out.... one thing that I’ve noticed is that from day 0 of the whole Jesus movement, there has always been an argument of who is right and who is wrong. And Jesus was killed for what he was trying to preach and the folks that continue to preach his word get ridiculed unless they are practically homeless and begging.

At this point, I feel like we won’t know anything until that “great day” gets here. It won’t matter how many schools and hospitals are built and how many people get helped by any of the mega-ministries (as they are called) people are going to have something bad to say about it.

But hey whatever makes you feel good about yourself.
Peace out….

]]> By: More Scams By Eddie Long, Paula White Plus Jimmy (And Donnie) Swaggart! « Heal The Land With Spiritual Warfare http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/04/02/passover_scams/comment-page-1/#comment-5042 More Scams By Eddie Long, Paula White Plus Jimmy (And Donnie) Swaggart! « Heal The Land With Spiritual Warfare Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:53:38 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1305#comment-5042 [...] Posted by healtheland on April 2nd, 2007 Eddie Long and Paula White here, the Swaggarts here. Here is a devotional that addresses the topics of tithing and giving from a DOCTRINALLY SOUND BIBLICAL POSITION.  Here is another, and a third. Technorati tags: Eddie Long . . Paula White . . [...] [...] Posted by healtheland on April 2nd, 2007 Eddie Long and Paula White here, the Swaggarts here. Here is a devotional that addresses the topics of tithing and giving from a DOCTRINALLY SOUND BIBLICAL POSITION.  Here is another, and a third. Technorati tags: Eddie Long . . Paula White . . [...]

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