Comments on: TD Jakes and Joel Osteen Enrich Themselves in Jesus’ Name (Video) http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/21/jakes_osteen_pimping/ The Independent Conservative saying what needs to be said! Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:35:55 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/21/jakes_osteen_pimping/comment-page-1/#comment-6670 IndependentConservative Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:01:53 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1286#comment-6670 You're right art123, but I pray those who are the Lord's that claim His name there make it out before their earthly life ends or Christ's return.  I pray if the Lord so wills that they all turn from that to truth. Those who are the Lord's could lose a lot in the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%203:11-15;&version=49;" rel="nofollow">1 Corinthians 3:11-15</a> sense if they remain there.  God's plan works according to His will, but I pray for them all, not knowing who the Lord might call.  And we've seen some make it out already, prayerfully more will too.  I made it out from a club of a pimp, so you never know who the Lord will help see the truth.  Cause if He helped me out being the nut I am <span>:smile: </span>, it's true anybody could be the next to be freed from that bad doctrine. We don't know who's going to make money, it's all as the Lord wills.  As God by Christ through inspiration of the Holy Spirit had James to admonish us in <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%204:13-17;&version=49;" rel="nofollow">James 4:13-17</a>. You’re right art123, but I pray those who are the Lord’s that claim His name there make it out before their earthly life ends or Christ’s return.  I pray if the Lord so wills that they all turn from that to truth. Those who are the Lord’s could lose a lot in the 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 sense if they remain there.  God’s plan works according to His will, but I pray for them all, not knowing who the Lord might call.  And we’ve seen some make it out already, prayerfully more will too.  I made it out from a club of a pimp, so you never know who the Lord will help see the truth.  Cause if He helped me out being the nut I am :smile: , it’s true anybody could be the next to be freed from that bad doctrine.

We don’t know who’s going to make money, it’s all as the Lord wills.  As God by Christ through inspiration of the Holy Spirit had James to admonish us in James 4:13-17.

]]> By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/21/jakes_osteen_pimping/comment-page-1/#comment-6669 art123 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:14:13 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1286#comment-6669 IC, as I was watching the video when Olsteen told the congregation to hold up their bibles and say it says what it says they are and they have what it says they want to have. Well, I believe that the whole congregation better read it instead of holding it because I wouldn't be surprise if God has condemned many of them, but bless a few. You just don't know how the Spirit is rolling in that place as far as predestination. They could die today or tomorrow in their sins, but Olsteen is not preaching about this. Another thing, God has already decided who's to be rich or poor. IC, as I was watching the video when Olsteen told the congregation to hold up their bibles and say it says what it says they are and they have what it says they want to have. Well, I believe that the whole congregation better read it instead of holding it because I wouldn’t be surprise if God has condemned many of them, but bless a few. You just don’t know how the Spirit is rolling in that place as far as predestination. They could die today or tomorrow in their sins, but Olsteen is not preaching about this. Another thing, God has already decided who’s to be rich or poor.

]]> By: jestat http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/21/jakes_osteen_pimping/comment-page-1/#comment-5055 jestat Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:13:33 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1286#comment-5055 ok.. thanks ok.. thanks

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/21/jakes_osteen_pimping/comment-page-1/#comment-5047 IndependentConservative Tue, 03 Apr 2007 19:42:45 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1286#comment-5047 I think as you grow in the Lord you accept a more modest outward appearance, but the inside is what counts. I think as you grow in the Lord you accept a more modest outward appearance, but the inside is what counts.

]]> By: jestat http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/21/jakes_osteen_pimping/comment-page-1/#comment-5046 jestat Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:36:42 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1286#comment-5046 hey IndipendentConservative, i want to ask something.. Or get your views.. What do you think about christians who have tattoos and piercings after they become one? pls reply.. thanks hey IndipendentConservative, i want to ask something.. Or get your views.. What do you think about christians who have tattoos and piercings after they become one? pls reply.. thanks

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/21/jakes_osteen_pimping/comment-page-1/#comment-5018 IndependentConservative Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:59:56 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1286#comment-5018 I just noticed, that my links to <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/08/reconsidering_tithing/" rel="nofollow">my post about tithing</a> in these comments were not working properly. I've fixed those links. I just noticed, that my links to my post about tithing in these comments were not working properly. I’ve fixed those links.

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/21/jakes_osteen_pimping/comment-page-1/#comment-5017 IndependentConservative Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:52:46 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1286#comment-5017 KP26 - I am saying that the treasure God wants us to have is the gift of Jesus Christ. They teach giving with the desire of receiving an earthly reward. Regarding tithing, <a href="http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/08/reconsidering_tithing/">please read my latest post about that</a>. Please read all that has been provided here. It will help you to fully understand my position. KP26 – I am saying that the treasure God wants us to have is the gift of Jesus Christ.

They teach giving with the desire of receiving an earthly reward.

Regarding tithing, please read my latest post about that.

Please read all that has been provided here. It will help you to fully understand my position.

]]> By: KP26 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/21/jakes_osteen_pimping/comment-page-1/#comment-5015 KP26 Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:09:07 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1286#comment-5015 I want to make sure I understand everyone's comments correctly. Independent Conservative, are you saying that God does not want us to have earthly treasures or simply not be obsessed with them? Are you saying these preachers only teach prosperity and about keeping everything for self, that they do not teach the joys of giving? Do you pay tithes to the church? I want to make sure I understand everyone’s comments correctly. Independent Conservative, are you saying that God does not want us to have earthly treasures or simply not be obsessed with them? Are you saying these preachers only teach prosperity and about keeping everything for self, that they do not teach the joys of giving? Do you pay tithes to the church?

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/21/jakes_osteen_pimping/comment-page-1/#comment-5013 IndependentConservative Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:07:57 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1286#comment-5013 This is an excellent question and it would be far more easier to answer if we were not Christians :D . Given we are Christians, we have to consider how the Lord would have us to use it and I just finished viewing an excellent totally free 2-part video series on this very subject. A good brother named George W. Greene made the videos and I highly recommend checking them out in full. <em>(Each video is less than 30-minutes long.)</em> He runs the site <a href="http://www.inyourbible.com/">InYourBible.com</a>. <ul> <li><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2181913976849184428"><strong>Keep Your Blessings or Not? 1 of 2</strong></a></li> <li><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7342900389821113847"><strong>Keep Your Blessings or Not? 2 of 2</strong></a></li> </ul> Hope that helps. This is an excellent question and it would be far more easier to answer if we were not Christians :D .

Given we are Christians, we have to consider how the Lord would have us to use it and I just finished viewing an excellent totally free 2-part video series on this very subject.

A good brother named George W. Greene made the videos and I highly recommend checking them out in full. (Each video is less than 30-minutes long.) He runs the site InYourBible.com.

Hope that helps.

]]> By: jestat http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/03/21/jakes_osteen_pimping/comment-page-1/#comment-5012 jestat Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:10:01 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1286#comment-5012 OK.. I respect that.. But what if.. "What if" God wants to bless you with $1,000,000.00? God just wants to bless you.. And let's say that you know that it is God's will for you to receive that money because of your obedience to Him.. What would you do? Will you receive it? OK.. I respect that..

But what if.. “What if” God wants to bless you with $1,000,000.00? God just wants to bless you.. And let’s say that you know that it is God’s will for you to receive that money because of your obedience to Him.. What would you do? Will you receive it?

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