Comments on: The Pile of Mess Under the Feet of Earl Paulk Grows. Even His Granddaughter is an Accuser. And Clarence E. McClendon is Named in the Scandal. http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/12/paulk_mess/ The Independent Conservative saying what needs to be said! Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:50:25 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/12/paulk_mess/comment-page-1/#comment-8205 art123 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 02:23:25 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1211#comment-8205 IC, I remembered reading a certain scripture in the bible and I believe it's Isaiah when the prophet spoke of the Messiah's coming and said that his looks are not to be desired. I believe and it's just me talking, but He could have came even more desirable and handsome than Solomon and He could have came any other way as an angel but he came as human flesh, but as God, like the new testament said. I believe that possibly it would have caused a distraction, especially with women and they would have been more focused on his looks than their salvation. You see it down here happening with false prophets like Rev Ike, McClendon and should I say Ole Anthony. However, only God knows. The movie "The Last Temptation of Christ", if his temptation was to sleep with Mary Magdelene, the bible would have said so. They took those scriptures and twisted around and blasphemed His name. Even Clarence McClendon's own first wife became unsecure and distracted to the point that she forgot her own salvation keeping tabs on him. Again, this may have been for the good. IC, I remembered reading a certain scripture in the bible and I believe it’s Isaiah when the prophet spoke of the Messiah’s coming and said that his looks are not to be desired. I believe and it’s just me talking, but He could have came even more desirable and handsome than Solomon and He could have came any other way as an angel but he came as human flesh, but as God, like the new testament said. I believe that possibly it would have caused a distraction, especially with women and they would have been more focused on his looks than their salvation. You see it down here happening with false prophets like Rev Ike, McClendon and should I say Ole Anthony. However, only God knows. The movie “The Last Temptation of Christ”, if his temptation was to sleep with Mary Magdelene, the bible would have said so. They took those scriptures and twisted around and blasphemed His name. Even Clarence McClendon’s own first wife became unsecure and distracted to the point that she forgot her own salvation keeping tabs on him. Again, this may have been for the good.

]]> By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/12/paulk_mess/comment-page-1/#comment-8190 art123 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:38:32 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1211#comment-8190 I used to hear the older folks use that word huzzie, plus it was used growing up and you can still hear it on television too. I used to hear the older folks use that word huzzie, plus it was used growing up and you can still hear it on television too.

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/12/paulk_mess/comment-page-1/#comment-8186 IndependentConservative Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:01:08 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1211#comment-8186 Yea I was over here laughing at that one too. It's a well fitting name for some. And art123 knows I won't censor that term ;) . Yea I was over here laughing at that one too. It’s a well fitting name for some. And art123 knows I won’t censor that term ;) .

]]> By: djenk23 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/12/paulk_mess/comment-page-1/#comment-8185 djenk23 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:36:13 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1211#comment-8185 pew huzzies?......lol....you are straight old school..lol pew huzzies?……lol….you are straight old school..lol

]]> By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/12/paulk_mess/comment-page-1/#comment-8182 art123 Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:38:07 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1211#comment-8182 Finally, to support what I'm saying, read 2 Timothy 3:1-7 Finally, to support what I’m saying, read 2 Timothy 3:1-7

]]> By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/12/paulk_mess/comment-page-1/#comment-8180 art123 Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:46:04 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1211#comment-8180 To add, and I don't mean to go there. The person involved in this adulturous marriage, I wonder if a feeling of insecurity clings to her. What if those delusions creep up again. I hear and read that these ministers, especially big time ones go through wives like Hollywood stars. McClendon is a handsome man and there is never a shortage of pew huzzies. Anyway, God knows best. To add, and I don’t mean to go there. The person involved in this adulturous marriage, I wonder if a feeling of insecurity clings to her. What if those delusions creep up again. I hear and read that these ministers, especially big time ones go through wives like Hollywood stars. McClendon is a handsome man and there is never a shortage of pew huzzies. Anyway, God knows best.

]]> By: art123 http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/12/paulk_mess/comment-page-1/#comment-8179 art123 Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:35:39 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1211#comment-8179 Personally, I don't believe that "Gawd" showed this man that he was supposed to leave his first marriage to marry another. You've got to consider what was said by Ms Brewer. Paulk did not want them together, so from the looks of things if McClendon wanted to advance in 'ministry', he would have to sell out. God foreseen McClendon's 'falling away' or shall we say apostasy so He allowed strong delusions to come his way. As you can see that since his divorce, he sinks deeper and deeper into a hole. I don't know Tamerra's standing with the Lord right now, but if she is in God's favor, then He did her a favor. Personally, I don’t believe that “Gawd” showed this man that he was supposed to leave his first marriage to marry another. You’ve got to consider what was said by Ms Brewer. Paulk did not want them together, so from the looks of things if McClendon wanted to advance in ‘ministry’, he would have to sell out. God foreseen McClendon’s ‘falling away’ or shall we say apostasy so He allowed strong delusions to come his way. As you can see that since his divorce, he sinks deeper and deeper into a hole. I don’t know Tamerra’s standing with the Lord right now, but if she is in God’s favor, then He did her a favor.

]]> By: IndependentConservative http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/12/paulk_mess/comment-page-1/#comment-5175 IndependentConservative Mon, 07 May 2007 16:47:21 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1211#comment-5175 <blockquote>I am now living in Christ, and not through the Pastors, churches, and others around me.</blockquote> Bless the Lord! Through it all you now have found the greater truth and no longer put your faith in men. Men will fail, but the Lord never does. Like you I've seen pimps abuse my own mind and even that of loved ones. I forgive them for what they did to me, but I won't watch them continue to abuse others and keep my mouth shut. Back when I thought TBN was doing the Lord's work, I used to watch McClendon. I thought he was showing me things not in the scriptures because he was "anointed", but then I saw him speak in person in Atlanta. And he started waxing on about that "50/50 partnership". At that point I got a little skeptical of him and later learned the truth. And I learned the deal about people who make up stuff that is not in scripture. It was a long road getting here, but I'm better for it.

I am now living in Christ, and not through the Pastors, churches, and others around me.

Bless the Lord! Through it all you now have found the greater truth and no longer put your faith in men.

Men will fail, but the Lord never does. Like you I’ve seen pimps abuse my own mind and even that of loved ones. I forgive them for what they did to me, but I won’t watch them continue to abuse others and keep my mouth shut.

Back when I thought TBN was doing the Lord’s work, I used to watch McClendon. I thought he was showing me things not in the scriptures because he was “anointed”, but then I saw him speak in person in Atlanta. And he started waxing on about that “50/50 partnership”. At that point I got a little skeptical of him and later learned the truth. And I learned the deal about people who make up stuff that is not in scripture.

It was a long road getting here, but I’m better for it.

]]> By: "Dear DJ" http://www.independentconservative.com/2007/02/12/paulk_mess/comment-page-1/#comment-5174 "Dear DJ" Mon, 07 May 2007 16:24:59 +0000 http://www.independentconservative.com/?p=1211#comment-5174 As a former member of Clarence McClendon's Church of the Harvest under the Four Square Deonomination, it is sad to continue hearing of and reading such negative (but true) comments about him; and so...many other leaders in Christian Ministry. I have had my own direct wounds inflicted by Clarence McClendon (shocked while being called a bi... as I stood in the choir stand, and his back was to the congregation). I definitely acknowledge that we truly are in the last days, and the very signs and wonders prophesied by Daniel, the Prophet; and by Jesus are staring us all straight in the eyes yet so many Christians are still walking blindly allowing themselves to continue to be led by lost and fallen leaders of crippled ministries. God's people perish for lack of knowledge (we will not read the gospel for ourselves). If we are reading the truth, we will begin praying the word of truth upon the nastiness that has been tainting the church for so... long. While I pity and pray for Clarence McClendon and his ex-wife, Tammera; they are both aware of what they did against the congregation-but more sadly is to see that while, we the congregation, were being deceived by Clarence-Tammera had to face the fact that she also was "sleeping with the enemy". I have sat in church (under Clarence and Tammera)suspecting that she too was behind his drive to forcing young, beautiful women from the church during that time; then, my suspicions were confirmed when my turn came next. Yes, Tammera also inflicted deceptive, unwarranted wounds against me that sent me into total and complete confusion. I, at the time, could not understand why Tammera was not ministering to us, the women of the church-who were hungering and thirsting after spiritual growth and strength, and who needed our Pastors' support-as we struggled with our weaknesses. After leaving, and growing, I realized that my Pastors still had some spiritual growing to do as did the congregation. They were too busy flowing in the flesh to provide us with what they (as our Pastors) should have been providing: proper spiritual and Godly leadership, guidance, and instruction. Many people left that church confused and wounded. But, to now learn of what was happening behind their scenes. "For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap". Tammera drove women from the church. She, too, has been driven out-but with an open door for her to now (in her own more mature state) properly minister to women (which is what she should have been doing back then). I am happy for her ministry, and hope that she can understand that nothing happens without God's knowledge, and that God has purpose in all that He allows. Her parting from Clarence McClendon was not in vain but (certainly, and partly) so that she could be appropriately used of God. Sometimes, whatever may be blinding us from properly flowing for God, must be removed;because God will be second to none. My prayer is that despite the horrid experiences, we all have learned lessons from our affiliations with each other that has caused growth in each of our lives. I certainly have grown, spiritually and emotionally from all that I experienced at Church of the Harvest, and other churches where more wounds were even inflicted; yet, I am so... glad to have gotten out of all of those places when I did. I am now living in Christ, and not through the Pastors, churches, and others around me. My walk is to please my God-by doing His work here on this filthy earth, so that when it is all said and done I can hear Him say to me: "My good and faithful servant, job well done". As a former member of Clarence McClendon’s Church of the Harvest under the Four Square Deonomination, it is sad to continue hearing of and reading such negative (but true) comments about him; and so…many other leaders in Christian Ministry. I have had my own direct wounds inflicted by Clarence McClendon (shocked while being called a bi… as I stood in the choir stand, and his back was to the congregation). I definitely acknowledge that we truly are in the last days, and the very signs and wonders prophesied by Daniel, the Prophet; and by Jesus are staring us all straight in the eyes yet so many Christians are still walking blindly allowing themselves to continue to be led by lost and fallen leaders of crippled ministries. God’s people perish for lack of knowledge (we will not read the gospel for ourselves). If we are reading the truth, we will begin praying the word of truth upon the nastiness that has been tainting the church for so… long. While I pity and pray for Clarence McClendon and his ex-wife, Tammera; they are both aware of what they did against the congregation-but more sadly is to see that while, we the congregation, were being deceived by Clarence-Tammera had to face the fact that she also was “sleeping with the enemy”. I have sat in church (under Clarence and Tammera)suspecting that she too was behind his drive to forcing young, beautiful women from the church during that time; then, my suspicions were confirmed when my turn came next. Yes, Tammera also inflicted deceptive, unwarranted wounds against me that sent me into total and complete confusion. I, at the time, could not understand why Tammera was not ministering to us, the women of the church-who were hungering and thirsting after spiritual growth and strength, and who needed our Pastors’ support-as we struggled with our weaknesses. After leaving, and growing, I realized that my Pastors still had some spiritual growing to do as did the congregation. They were too busy flowing in the flesh to provide us with what they (as our Pastors) should have been providing: proper spiritual and Godly leadership, guidance, and instruction. Many people left that church confused and wounded. But, to now learn of what was happening behind their scenes. “For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap”. Tammera drove women from the church. She, too, has been driven out-but with an open door for her to now (in her own more mature state) properly minister to women (which is what she should have been doing back then). I am happy for her ministry, and hope that she can understand that nothing happens without God’s knowledge, and that God has purpose in all that He allows. Her parting from Clarence McClendon was not in vain but (certainly, and partly) so that she could be appropriately used of God. Sometimes, whatever may be blinding us from properly flowing for God, must be removed;because God will be second to none. My prayer is that despite the horrid experiences, we all have learned lessons from our affiliations with each other that has caused growth in each of our lives. I certainly have grown, spiritually and emotionally from all that I experienced at Church of the Harvest, and other churches where more wounds were even inflicted; yet, I am so… glad to have gotten out of all of those places when I did. I am now living in Christ, and not through the Pastors, churches, and others around me. My walk is to please my God-by doing His work here on this filthy earth, so that when it is all said and done I can hear Him say to me: “My good and faithful servant, job well done”.

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