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	<title>Comments on: Jesus Never Wants Those Who Claim to Love Him to Deny Him.  (Gun Point Conversion to Islam.)</title>
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		<title>By: A Resonable American Conservative on the Kidnapped Fox Newsmen &#171; Not Saussure</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Resonable American Conservative on the Kidnapped Fox Newsmen &#171; Not Saussure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As his thoughtful and thorough survey of American bloggers&#8217; reactions to the men&#8217;s kidnapping and release shows, this has raised all manner of questions for the American right, perhaps none more worrying than the journalists&#8217; conversion: The gunpoint conversions of Centanni and Wiig led many bloggers to speculate what they would have done in the journalists&#8216; situation. Most agreed that they would have been braver. Although La Shawn Barber urged her readers not to &#8220;judge&#8221; the men, she maintained that if it had been her, she would have taken a bullet for Christ. March Hare went even further, claiming that if Muslims had threatened her children with death if she didn&#8217;t convert, she would have let her children die the way Abraham was prepared to sacrifice Isaac (or Ishmael, if Allah pulled a similar stunt in the Quran, which she wasn&#8217;t really sure about). Hopefully, God won&#8217;t ask her to sacrifice her children, but her kids might want to be extra cautious whenever they see Mommy with a knife. Independent Conservative said that he would rather die than look like a wimp in the eyes of his sons: &#8220;What example of manhood would I be showing my 2 sons, who I&#8217;m showing the faith to, if I allowed them to see me deny Christ? &#8221; The Anchoress was less sure if she would make the &#8220;right choice&#8221; but added, &#8220;I believe I would de-capitate before I&#8217;d capitulate,&#8221; which I&#8217;m sure we all find very reassuring. Debbie Hamilton at first claimed she &#8220;probably would have done just like they did, &#8230; read that stupid statement and get the heck out&#8217;a dodge,&#8221; but later said she felt ashamed, perhaps by the courage of so many other potentially martyred bloggers, and quoted this statement from Vanishing American, which condemned the men: &#8220;While yes, we can understand their desire to survive, is their subservient behavior a good portent for the West&#8217;s chances in the struggle against Islam?&#8221;While so far there have been only two shotgun conversions that we know about, many bloggers believe that this is just the beginning of a veritable deluge of such incidents, regrettably encouraged by the capitulation of Centanni and Wiig, and something must be done to stop it. Even worse, soon Muslims will be able to carry out forced conversions on a massive scale backed up by nuclear weapons. Dan Riehl recalls Ann Coulter&#8217;s statement after September 11: &#8220;We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.&#8221; Although he says he is opposed to this course of action and only wanted to point out how hypocritical the Left is for apparently approving of gunpoint conversions by Muslims but not Christians, I wonder if this may not be the solution to this sudden rash of forced conversions by Muslims. Maybe we should convert them at gunpoint before they convert us. Since there are one billion Muslims in the world, though, we better get started soon. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As his thoughtful and thorough survey of American bloggers&#8217; reactions to the men&#8217;s kidnapping and release shows, this has raised all manner of questions for the American right, perhaps none more worrying than the journalists&#8217; conversion: The gunpoint conversions of Centanni and Wiig led many bloggers to speculate what they would have done in the journalists&#8216; situation. Most agreed that they would have been braver. Although La Shawn Barber urged her readers not to &#8220;judge&#8221; the men, she maintained that if it had been her, she would have taken a bullet for Christ. March Hare went even further, claiming that if Muslims had threatened her children with death if she didn&#8217;t convert, she would have let her children die the way Abraham was prepared to sacrifice Isaac (or Ishmael, if Allah pulled a similar stunt in the Quran, which she wasn&#8217;t really sure about). Hopefully, God won&#8217;t ask her to sacrifice her children, but her kids might want to be extra cautious whenever they see Mommy with a knife. Independent Conservative said that he would rather die than look like a wimp in the eyes of his sons: &#8220;What example of manhood would I be showing my 2 sons, who I&#8217;m showing the faith to, if I allowed them to see me deny Christ? &#8221; The Anchoress was less sure if she would make the &#8220;right choice&#8221; but added, &#8220;I believe I would de-capitate before I&#8217;d capitulate,&#8221; which I&#8217;m sure we all find very reassuring. Debbie Hamilton at first claimed she &#8220;probably would have done just like they did, &#8230; read that stupid statement and get the heck out&#8217;a dodge,&#8221; but later said she felt ashamed, perhaps by the courage of so many other potentially martyred bloggers, and quoted this statement from Vanishing American, which condemned the men: &#8220;While yes, we can understand their desire to survive, is their subservient behavior a good portent for the West&#8217;s chances in the struggle against Islam?&#8221;While so far there have been only two shotgun conversions that we know about, many bloggers believe that this is just the beginning of a veritable deluge of such incidents, regrettably encouraged by the capitulation of Centanni and Wiig, and something must be done to stop it. Even worse, soon Muslims will be able to carry out forced conversions on a massive scale backed up by nuclear weapons. Dan Riehl recalls Ann Coulter&#8217;s statement after September 11: &#8220;We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.&#8221; Although he says he is opposed to this course of action and only wanted to point out how hypocritical the Left is for apparently approving of gunpoint conversions by Muslims but not Christians, I wonder if this may not be the solution to this sudden rash of forced conversions by Muslims. Maybe we should convert them at gunpoint before they convert us. Since there are one billion Muslims in the world, though, we better get started soon. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Swift</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/08/29/gun_point_to_islam/comment-page-1/#comment-2604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Swift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kidnapped Fox Newsmen Let Us Down By Not Dying&lt;/strong&gt;

By converting to Islam at gunpoint instead of dying as martyrs two kidnapped journalists failed to meet the high standards of Fox News.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kidnapped Fox Newsmen Let Us Down By Not Dying</strong></p>
<p>By converting to Islam at gunpoint instead of dying as martyrs two kidnapped journalists failed to meet the high standards of Fox News.</p>
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		<title>By: Fire and Hammer</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/08/29/gun_point_to_islam/comment-page-1/#comment-2591</link>
		<dc:creator>Fire and Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A Question of Faith&lt;/strong&gt;

Independent Conservative says he will stand on his faith, and prays he will &quot;be as firm in less comfortable surroundings&quot; than those he enjoys here in the United States. He also mentions the example he would set for his family and the expectation of ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A Question of Faith</strong></p>
<p>Independent Conservative says he will stand on his faith, and prays he will &#8220;be as firm in less comfortable surroundings&#8221; than those he enjoys here in the United States. He also mentions the example he would set for his family and the expectation of &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: liberalism is a mental disorder</title>
		<link>http://www.independentconservative.com/2006/08/29/gun_point_to_islam/comment-page-1/#comment-2588</link>
		<dc:creator>liberalism is a mental disorder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I ever am in the situation (I Hope I never am) then I hope to have the strength to claim Jesus as my Lord and Savior...loud and proud!

Its one thing to talk the talk, quite another to walk the walk. Lord give me strength to be able to stand up and proclaim your name on all the earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I ever am in the situation (I Hope I never am) then I hope to have the strength to claim Jesus as my Lord and Savior&#8230;loud and proud!</p>
<p>Its one thing to talk the talk, quite another to walk the walk. Lord give me strength to be able to stand up and proclaim your name on all the earth.</p>
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