So I’m always saying Islam is a sick cult. And every now and then we see the sickest parts on full display. I can’t find a video tape of a high profile non-Christian or non-Jew being kidnapped and forced to convert to either Christianity or Judaism at gun point, while text appears on screen saying:
This declaration was approved by them and they accept the faith without any pressure
With music from Mahalia Jackson or Joshua Nelson playing in the background!
No you just don’t see those kinds of things coming from Christian and Jewish nations. You know, the places better known as the “Western world”, which is the only thing that causes some Muslim nations to eventually end their barbaric acts. Oh but we see people forced to convert to or rejoin the Muslim faith by force all the time. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again folks, this happens too often to be an anomaly! People like Walid Shoebat and Brigitte Gabriel have warned us, this is the true face of Islam.
So FoxNews reporter Steve Centanni and Olaf Wiig were freed, but not before being forced to accept the “religion of peace” at the point of a gun. And before them, journalist Jill Carroll was forced to wear the Muslim garb, learn about Islam and make anti-American statements like Centanni and Wiig. Hot Air has the video of Centanni and Wiig.
La Shawn Barber asks, would I deny Christ for earthly life? I say from the comforts of America, heck no. I can only pray I would be as firm in less comfortable surroundings. And I make my statement as a husband and father of 2. What example of manhood would I be showing my 2 sons, who I’m showing the faith to, if I allowed them to see me deny Christ? God expects me as a man to be the chief priest within my household. If I were to deny the Lord, it would show the worst example to my family. Better I die for the cause of Christ, than allow my family to feel Christ can be denied in moments of convenience. Not to say I’m always perfect, I’m far from that, but when put on the line at gun point I feel I should stand for Christ.
So let’s look at some Biblical perspective on this. And I must affirm, that I am not one who accepts the “once saved always saved” view, though I respect those who feel that way. I come from the staunch Pentecostal Holiness line of Christians, that feel just as a husband can love his wife and later go astray, a man can also love the Lord and later fall into wickedness and possibly miss out on heaven, but that’s ultimately for the Lord to decide. I feel people who claim Christ but live foul like Snoop Dogg and people who claim Christ then freely deny him like Don Stewart-Whyte/Abdul Waheed might very well die and open their eyes in hell. I’m not saying “I know” they will go to hell, it’s just my opinion. I’m not the final judge, God is. Of course I’ve previously explained that I now carry a view on things like speaking in tongues that is closer in line with Free Will Baptists, but I really do feel you can accept the Lord and later “backslide”, to a point where you could put yourself in a bad position come judgement. I don’t believe the Lord will allow himself to be mocked, by those who accepted him on Sunday with tears in their eyes and then run to live like the Devil the remainder of their lives.
Jesus said:
Matthew 10:32-39 (New King James Version)
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Now keep reading before you jump to conclusions. Keep in mind I didn’t say the words above, Jesus did. Jesus tells me if I put the wife and kids before him, that I’m not worthy of him. Now does this all mean that I’m assured hell if I deny Christ at the point of a gun? I can’t say so. In fact, denying Christ multiple times under direst does not necessarily mean eternal damnation. Remember Peter? He denied Christ 3 times in a single night.
Matthew 26:75 (New King James Version)
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Every time I’ve read about Peter’s actions I’ve prayed that I would not act as he did. To actually see the face of the Lord performing miracles and all, then deny him is something I have a hard time understanding.
Jesus earlier said to Peter.
Matthew 16:18 (New King James Version)
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So Peter denied Christ 3 times under direst and so what did Jesus do the next time he spoke to him? He told Peter to go preach the Gospel. He did not condemn Peter for denying him 3 times.
Matthew 28:16-20 (New King James Version)
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Peter was one of the 11 and Jesus did not exclude him. So it is possible to deny Christ under direst and still remain a Christian. Peter knew if he told people who knew Christ he might be killed. When Jesus was taken away, his disciples were scrambling in fear. For all we know, others may have denied him before the resurrection.
But let’s keep in mind, not everybody claiming Christ will not be allowed into heaven. Jesus said this.
Matthew 7:21-29 (New King James Version)
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So no I can’t agree with the view that claiming Christ once means guaranteed entry into heaven.
Now there will come a time when denying the Lord under direst will result in eternal damnation. As John explained from his visions.
Revelation 14:6-13 (New King James Version)
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Some feel we have already reached that period, but the bottom line is this, if you never deny Christ you’ve got nothing to worry about. Those who accept the beast will have to do so, or be unable to even engage in commerce. Christians will be killed. So there will be plenty of direst during that time.
DEBKAfile has more details about the release of Centanni and Wiig. You really should read it all when you have time.
A Hostage Affair in Gaza is Ended by a Three-Part Ransom
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The article details how this was cover for the issue of the kidnapping of the Israeli soldier and money was paid to the enemy as part of the release of Centanni and Wiig. So more went on than just their forced acceptance of Islam. America also once again capitulated to the enemy.
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August 30th, 2006 at 8:49 am
If I ever am in the situation (I Hope I never am) then I hope to have the strength to claim Jesus as my Lord and Savior…loud and proud!
Its one thing to talk the talk, quite another to walk the walk. Lord give me strength to be able to stand up and proclaim your name on all the earth.
August 30th, 2006 at 9:58 pm
A Question of Faith
Independent Conservative says he will stand on his faith, and prays he will “be as firm in less comfortable surroundings” than those he enjoys here in the United States. He also mentions the example he would set for his family and the expectation of …
September 1st, 2006 at 5:41 am
Kidnapped Fox Newsmen Let Us Down By Not Dying
By converting to Islam at gunpoint instead of dying as martyrs two kidnapped journalists failed to meet the high standards of Fox News.
September 4th, 2006 at 9:02 pm
[...] As his thoughtful and thorough survey of American bloggers’ reactions to the men’s kidnapping and release shows, this has raised all manner of questions for the American right, perhaps none more worrying than the journalists’ conversion: The gunpoint conversions of Centanni and Wiig led many bloggers to speculate what they would have done in the journalists‘ situation. Most agreed that they would have been braver. Although La Shawn Barber urged her readers not to “judge” the men, she maintained that if it had been her, she would have taken a bullet for Christ. March Hare went even further, claiming that if Muslims had threatened her children with death if she didn’t convert, she would have let her children die the way Abraham was prepared to sacrifice Isaac (or Ishmael, if Allah pulled a similar stunt in the Quran, which she wasn’t really sure about). Hopefully, God won’t ask her to sacrifice her children, but her kids might want to be extra cautious whenever they see Mommy with a knife. Independent Conservative said that he would rather die than look like a wimp in the eyes of his sons: “What example of manhood would I be showing my 2 sons, who I’m showing the faith to, if I allowed them to see me deny Christ? ” The Anchoress was less sure if she would make the “right choice” but added, “I believe I would de-capitate before I’d capitulate,” which I’m sure we all find very reassuring. Debbie Hamilton at first claimed she “probably would have done just like they did, … read that stupid statement and get the heck out’a dodge,” but later said she felt ashamed, perhaps by the courage of so many other potentially martyred bloggers, and quoted this statement from Vanishing American, which condemned the men: “While yes, we can understand their desire to survive, is their subservient behavior a good portent for the West’s chances in the struggle against Islam?”While so far there have been only two shotgun conversions that we know about, many bloggers believe that this is just the beginning of a veritable deluge of such incidents, regrettably encouraged by the capitulation of Centanni and Wiig, and something must be done to stop it. Even worse, soon Muslims will be able to carry out forced conversions on a massive scale backed up by nuclear weapons. Dan Riehl recalls Ann Coulter’s statement after September 11: “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.” Although he says he is opposed to this course of action and only wanted to point out how hypocritical the Left is for apparently approving of gunpoint conversions by Muslims but not Christians, I wonder if this may not be the solution to this sudden rash of forced conversions by Muslims. Maybe we should convert them at gunpoint before they convert us. Since there are one billion Muslims in the world, though, we better get started soon. [...]