I’ll cut right to the chase on this one. Reverend DL Foster as you probably know has always stood up to the pro-gay lobby. A bunch that wants to sue ministers and if they had their way would probably even imprison them, or worse. We’ve already seen the pro-gay lobby in other nations actually get ministers imprisoned for preaching the Gospel. So this is not some casual debate, the enemy is real and doing the work of Satan himself. They are already putting out false doctrine that is fully blasphemous and planning to produce more.
When Jesus encountered critics that were trying to twist his good work he was not politically correct in his response to them.
Matthew 12:34-37 (New King James Version)
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He later referred to the same critics (scribes and Pharisees) as “An evil and adulterous generation”. Today it seems that some fear actually calling evil exactly what it is, but that’s not the case with DL Foster. He calls it like he sees it. And now he’s seeing Christians side with the enemy against him. Christians going to the pro-gay crowd to denounce DL gives the sinful pro-gay crowd a “divide and conquer” angle. When a Christian speaks against the vipers that produce all manner of evil, the vipers are now able to leverage Christians to speak against someone that exposes the sin. It really is sad the enemy now has this angle available in his arsenal against the church.
People make references to slavery all the time. Plenty of people died during slavery and the middle passage from Africa to America. People make modern day comparisons to “plantations”, “slave masters” and “slaves” all the time in American debates, that don’t involve actual physical enslavement and forced labor. Same with comparisons of lynchings. Although slavery was horrible there are always these kinds of analogies. But once someone uses an analogy that involves Hitler and/or the Holocaust suddenly it’s treated like the “sacred cow” that can never be touched. Michael Steele compared stem cell research to the Holocaust and was pressed to retract. I think Steele’s original comments were actually rooted in fact. During the Holocaust people were used for experiments and plenty of people we know were murdered. Killing innocent babies and using them for experiments is the same if not worse, because the lives used are the most innocent of all. DL made a comparison to Hitler and now he’s getting attacked by his fellow Christians in the face of the enemy. What an insane sight that Christians who are supposed to be standing against the evil would lock arms with the enemy to attack another Christian.
The day these folks who lament Holocaust references cry about a slavery reference, then they might have a spec of credibility.
And DL is noticing the lies about AIDS. He is also aware of what is really killing a great mass of people. I’ve written about AIDS myths before and they continue. I’m just glad my brother in Christ has no problems exposing the lies and enemy for what they really are. I can only pray more Christians will not fear doing the same.
update 6/14/2006 5:26PM: Chester Street also lends DL Foster support.
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June 14th, 2006 at 11:17 am
I am sick and tired of gay comparing their plight with the blacks of the Civil Rights Era. gays are better educated and have more access to money (no kids to spend it on) then black people do today, let alone back in tha 1960’s. Homosexuality is nothing more than a behavior, it is not a race a culture nor is it a religion and it deserves no more acknowledgment than any other of the myriad of aberrant human behavior.
June 14th, 2006 at 2:09 pm
Nice post in defense of DL.
I put one up as well. Alan made a mistake
holding hands with the likes of Bensen in public!
June 14th, 2006 at 4:48 pm
Jesus said in Matthew 5: “You have heard that it said, ‘You shall love your neighbor
and hate your enemy, but I say to you love your enemies and pray for those who
persecute you,” (43-44)
Funny how that sounds so little like the words coming from so many Christians today.
j.
June 14th, 2006 at 5:20 pm
I pray those in the pro-gay lobby to turn from their wicked ways and I love them. That does not mean I’m an idiot and afraid to denounce the behavior and those who act like it is blessed by God.
Some Christians act as if Jesus never turned the tables over in the temple. As if he nicely asked the money changes to leave. As if Jesus never called his detractors vipers. The fact is that Jesus in his love was able to tell those who were evil that they were evil. Christians today like yourself Jonathan have missed that point.
June 14th, 2006 at 5:27 pm
Christianity considers all sex outside of marriage a sin.
So adultery is a sin…so is homosexual sex.
Funny how the adulterer goes to Church seeking to change themself and the homosexual seeks to change the Church.
June 14th, 2006 at 7:53 pm
Haven’t missed the point at all. We are not Jesus! We are the conduit for people to see Jesus. Jesus went after the religious crowd of His day. Unfortunately too many Christians today have forgotten all about loving their enemies because they are too busy trying to be right. If you are too busy being right, you don’t have time to be the light that we are instructed to be. The only people Jesus told were evil were the religious leaders of his day. He was pretty brutal to them…called them vipers. Jesus did not preach to the sinners. He loved them and brought change in their lives. The religious leaders thought their rules could effectuate change. Jesus turned that upside down. Doesn’t matter how right we are about sin, if we’ve turned off the people who actually need to have change occur, then we’ve failed in our task because Jesus Christ is the ONLY one who can effectuate change.
j.
June 14th, 2006 at 9:24 pm
I feel you are making several theological errors.
First Jesus was not the only one who had some stiff words for his detractors and they (followers of the Lord) said them to not only religious leaders who were Jews, but also false teachers like the prophets of Baal as well.
Second the light is right and exists to offer correction, instruction and guidance. If that results in the brutal words with some, its been happening even before Jesus came to earth in human form.
Third, you are trying to use the words “love” and “nice” as synonyms. You are acting as if to show love Christians must always be nice. These are two different terms and love is not always nice. To preach to sinners does not mean we always tell them what they wish to hear, but what they need to hear. I love my neighbor as myself. I would not allow myself to continue in sin without denouncing my own self. If a man is to pluck out his eye if it offends him, than in loving his neighbor as himself he would need to do the same if his neighbor rejects the gospel.
Forth, the pro-gay lobby has rejected the Lord. You claim that Jesus never spoke ill of sinners he was trying to reach out to and that he never preached to sinners. You are incorrect on both counts.
Matthew 10:5-15 (New King James Version)
Jesus sent them to preach to the lost (sinners) of the Jews. Given he had not yet died on the cross to provide access for the world, the House of Israel was still in it’s own covenant with God and the rest were Gentiles. He did not ask them to pass out money, but to preach. For those who took them in good, but others were given a worse fate. Now you may say that he never told them to say anything negative to them, but you would be wrong, because he told the 70 he sent to do that.
Luke 10:1-12 (New King James Version)
Christians job is to preach to the entire world, sinners included now that Christ has died for the sins of the world.
I am not trying to be right. The truth is right and Christians are expected to do nothing more than speak the truth.
The pro-gay lobby rejects the gospel and so they are rejected and denounced by me just as the prophets of Baal were rejected.
It is interesting Jonathan how Christian bloggers denounce plenty of sin of various types, but people like yourself only show up when the discussion is about gays and that particular sin. You have become indoctrinated into the false application of love by the pro-gay lobby. I pray for your deliverance.
Jesus wants us to teach the world everything he commanded us to observe.
Matthew 28:19-20 (New King James Version)
Jesus was the example for Christians to follow. To do as he did is a good thing. He told us to teach all that he commanded. That means we don’t reserve preaching when the sin is the gay lifestyle.
Please read more of the Bible. There are several things you’ve expressed here that are incorrect. Maybe you are new to the faith, but you should study more before you mislead yourself and others.
June 15th, 2006 at 9:51 am
Amen Darnell! Amen!
May God continue to Bless you!
June 18th, 2006 at 12:16 am
Shame on you. By your implied acceptance and aggreement with DL Foster’s comparing a Jewish man to Hitler — you are simply giving a big thumbs up to bigotry. There’s a lot of blathering on in this site about how all the gays need to be shown the “truth” — yet most of you here seem to think this truth only involves finger pointing and condemning those we dont like or agree with — while those you care for are applauded for anti-semetic, bigoted and hatefull behavior. How ironic. Lets talk about the “truth” — there is nothing more decietful than picking and choosing the parts of the bible we aggree with - while ignoring the rest….For example, in the past white men have used the bible to justify slavery and suppress women– now most of you here engage in this same hatefull tactic towards gay men an women. Again, ironic.
June 18th, 2006 at 12:28 am
Light - As administrator of this blog I should change your screen name to “lie” because your one big liar.
Please show me where you’ve attacked someone for comparing a Black person to a slave driver? It happens all the time. I would like to see where you have denounced such statements on a public record?
The truth is the truth and I’ve got no problem saying it. If someone wishes to twist the truth to imply that the gay lifestyle is Godly, that is a lie. Like yourself.
What someone else did with the Bible does not dismiss the fact that the Bible expressly denounces homosexual behavior. The Lord has been making “ex-gays” for a very long time.
1 Corinthians 6:9-14 (New King James Version)
Now do you agree or disagree with the fact that the gay lifestyle is a sin before God?
June 18th, 2006 at 1:03 am
IndependentConservative– you are attempting to slip past being confronted with your own acceptance and approval of anit-semitic, bigoted, and hatefull behavior - do you condone it or not? Yes or no? Obviously you do have a problem with the “truth” when it is about yourself. As far as black people being compared to slave drivers - I agree - this is indeed unacceptable! However, your anger over this type of behavior does not give you a green light to behave the same exact way - or lash out at me. God is everywhere - there is no need to run and find a bible verse to back up your every statement… Again, you cannot pick and choose what you like and ignore the rest. Anti-gay verses seem to fit your personal belief system- so they are “the truth” - meanwhile I doubt you spend much time preaching Leviticus 25:44 and Exodus 21:7 which condone slavery (nor should you!) When only the verses YOU LIKE are the truth you are missing God’s bigger messages. I cant address what you think Im lying about if you dont specify what it is you think Im lying about. Otherwise its simply name calling out of anger.
June 18th, 2006 at 1:14 am
The verses in the Bible speaking of slavery regarded debt slavery and had nothing to do with the form of forced slavery in America’s history. If you don’t want to answer the question from me you’re gone. I run this blog, not you. Be gone!
Ladies and gentleman, liar Light has been turned off
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June 18th, 2006 at 1:23 am
That was interesting, a pro-gay lobby supporter tried to use Old Testament laws of Moses while I reference New Testament verses pertaining to modern day Christians.
Talk about a loudmouth with an empty gun, that one was firing blanks from his first post
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I won’t waste time with such.
June 18th, 2006 at 6:42 pm
Hi Independent Conservative!
I support DL wholeheartedly as well! I really appreciate your non-compromising adherance to Jesus Christ and His Word! Too many Christians are caught up into the “creeping vine of compromise.” I wrote about that fact at my blog. Keep sharing the Word and telling it like it is!
In Christ,
Christinewjc
June 18th, 2006 at 8:06 pm
Thank you Christinewjc, I’ve read your write-up cited by DL and thought it was awesome.
It’s interesting that I post about a myriad of issues, but only 2 seem to bring out a mass of advocates for the bad behavior. Those 2 issues are women who sleep with young boys and homosexuals. Nothing I post about invokes such reaction as those 2 issues. Which means we’ve got to keep speaking out against them loudly, because it is apparent that too many people are being fooled into thinking they are OK to do.
June 20th, 2006 at 11:05 am
Independent Conservative,
Thank you so much for your encouraging words!
I have found that when I post on the topics of homosexuality or abortion, I get a lot of gay activists and/or pro-death people attempting to counter what is written. They can protest all they want, but human “wisdom” will NEVER trump the eternal infallible Wisdom of God as revealed through the Person of Jesus Christ and His Word, the Bible.
Keep up the great work that you are doing at your blog! I’ve got a lot of reading to do here!